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post 1556327481 07-15-2018, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted By FatalTragedy12
There’s not even a remote chance a Democrat is embroiled in this. You’re just raging your boy is getting locked up and piling on the evidence.
Is this the same source you posted in OP telling you this??? I suggest finding a more reliable one if so...
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Originally Posted By NYPat
Meanwhile, feel free to continue to excuse the fact that Trump and the RNC actively accepted help from the Russians.
Don't forget the NRA.

Inside the Decade-Long Russian Campaign to Infiltrate the NRA and Help Elect Trump

Femme fatales, lavish Moscow parties and dark money – how Russia worked the National Rifle Association

https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...-trump-630054/

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Originally Posted By EctoCanuck
Don't forget the NRA.

Inside the Decade-Long Russian Campaign to Infiltrate the NRA and Help Elect Trump

Femme fatales, lavish Moscow parties and dark money – how Russia worked the National Rifle Association

https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...-trump-630054/

Fcking russians are buying nra memberships? Is there any limit to their evil?
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Originally Posted By FatalTragedy12
There’s not even a remote chance a Democrat is embroiled in this.
This type of common mindset here is so odd considering the entirety of the situation.

I’m not sure if it’s ranting partisan rhetoric or people have actually cornered their thoughts so far away from rational thinking that they conclude this as true.




The entire incident happened under a Democrat administration that was in charge of all the security and defense agencies at the time



People fully entrusted this administration to do their due diligence for such, and the administration totally failed them, and quite possibly with intent.




Every bit of this happened before Trump was in office





And yet somehow while the time of failure was when our nation was completely in control under a Democrat administration - you think that no Democrat will be “embroiled” or implicated.



Quite odd when you think about it.




The sad part is, considering a person that worked with the previous administration is actually (believe it or not) in charge of investigation ,what you’re saying could possibly be true.



It’s really a sad situation for our country, and right now our leader is having to sweep up the mess in the middle of what could be a positive direction diplomatic visit with good results.



Just wow at the “screw our country’s national security by not thoroughly investigating it with non bias lead investigator” in trade for trying to take out a person you politically disagree with that came along after the fact.



This is a very very serious situation for our nation.


It’s so disheartening to see your, amongst others, political bias come before national security.
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4
How does Russia go from a weak regional power to pulling off the greatest transatlantic attack in the history of the USA's democracy?
Our intelligence community failed to realize that the Russian government could plant a stupid, obnoxious mole in the American political system and that he could actually win the White House for the Kremlin by acting stupid and obnoxious to get stupid, obnoxious gullible fools to vote for him. Their plan was ingenious as they had been grooming their asset for decades, hiding in plain sight in NYC, but we missed all the signs because no one could possibly believe someone so stupid and obnoxious could win a Presidential election.
post 1556352021 07-15-2018, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted By LukeLissen
That was Aug 21 2016, over a year after Stone was fired by Trump. Stone was on the Trump campaign less than two months at the beginning of it.

Also from what we know so far Stone hasn't committed a crime, but even if he has related to this stuff it was long after he and Trump had a falling out and Stone was removed.

Talking to someone who committed a crime over the internet and reporting what they've told you isn't a crime or we'd have lots of leftist journalist-propagandists in the US charged with crimes for reporting information by criminal leakers.
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Originally Posted By Retoaded
Roger Stone has been bragging about talking to these guys/wikileaks/etc for 2 years now. This isn't even news. He has already published all of his messages with *****fer 2.0 who according to him he thought was an ordinary hacker (whatever that means).

And once again, talking to someone is not a crime. Did he aid and abet their activities? Then throw him under the jail.
and that.


I'm not a fan of Roger Stone because I see him as a trouble making attention seeker and am glad Trump fired him early on. However, none of this suggests that Stone committed a crime.


It's possible that something new indicating a crime that hasn't been made public yet could still come out, but so far this is all just Stone being Stone.
post 1556353791 07-15-2018, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie
Our intelligence community failed to realize that the Russian government could plant a stupid, obnoxious mole in the American political system and that he could actually win the White House for the Kremlin by acting stupid and obnoxious to get stupid, obnoxious gullible fools to vote for him. Their plan was ingenious as they had been grooming their asset for decades, hiding in plain sight in NYC, but we missed all the signs because no one could possibly believe someone so stupid and obnoxious could win a Presidential election.
There is no fuking way you are serious with this post.
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post 1556353871 07-15-2018, 05:15 PM
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As former director of the CIA Pompeo has stated

Russia interfered in our 2016 elections, but they also interfered in the 2012 elections, the 2008 elections, the 2004 elections, et al.
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Originally Posted By EctoCanuck
Don't forget the NRA.

Inside the Decade-Long Russian Campaign to Infiltrate the NRA and Help Elect Trump

Femme fatales, lavish Moscow parties and dark money – how Russia worked the National Rifle Association

https://www.rollingstone.com/politic...-trump-630054/
Huh? What? Rolling Stone?? The same Rolling Stone that rolled out a different Obama cover most every month..?



Right.. they're legit lol.

By the way, did you catch the "Hillary's Last Stand" thing? Yeah, me too lol.
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post 1556354721 07-15-2018, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie
Our intelligence community failed to realize that the Russian government could plant a stupid, obnoxious mole in the American political system and that he could actually win the White House for the Kremlin by acting stupid and obnoxious to get stupid, obnoxious gullible fools to vote for him. Their plan was ingenious as they had been grooming their asset for decades, hiding in plain sight in NYC, but we missed all the signs because no one could possibly believe someone so stupid and obnoxious could win a Presidential election.
Why should I believe you?
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Originally Posted By Jayarbie
Our intelligence community failed to realize that the Russian government could plant a stupid, obnoxious mole in the American political system and that he could actually win the White House for the Kremlin by acting stupid and obnoxious to get stupid, obnoxious gullible fools to vote for him. Their plan was ingenious as they had been grooming their asset for decades, hiding in plain sight in NYC, but we missed all the signs because no one could possibly believe someone so stupid and obnoxious could win a Presidential election.
Originally Posted By Bushmaster
There is no fuking way you are serious with this post.
Yeah, you know sometimes somebody will post something so off the wall and so batshiit stupid that you just have to save it for future use..

This would be one of those times.
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post 1556360521 07-15-2018, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted By WrestlingFan123
As former director of the CIA Pompeo has stated

Russia interfered in our 2016 elections, but they also interfered in the 2012 elections, the 2008 elections, the 2004 elections, et al.
And now they're investigating whether or not an American potential candidate worked with them to get elected and sabotage the country.
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Originally Posted By gachase21
This type of common mindset here is so odd considering the entirety of the situation.

I’m not sure if it’s ranting partisan rhetoric or people have actually cornered their thoughts so far away from rational thinking that they conclude this as true.

The entire incident happened under a Democrat administration that was in charge of all the security and defense agencies at the time

People fully entrusted this administration to do their due diligence for such, and the administration totally failed them, and quite possibly with intent.

Every bit of this happened before Trump was in office

And yet somehow while the time of failure was when our nation was completely in control under a Democrat administration - you think that no Democrat will be “embroiled” or implicated

Quite odd when you think about it.

The sad part is, considering a person that worked with the previous administration is actually (believe it or not) in charge of investigation ,what you’re saying could possibly be true.

It’s really a sad situation for our country, and right now our leader is having to sweep up the mess in the middle of what could be a positive direction diplomatic visit with good results.

Just wow at the “screw our country’s national security by not thoroughly investigating it with non bias lead investigator” in trade for trying to take out a person you politically disagree with that came along after the fact.

This is a very very serious situation for our nation.

It’s so disheartening to see your, amongst others, political bias come before national security.
Is this where we're at? Fox News talking point that it happened under Obama's watch? Really?

Let's not blame the people who actively engaged with the collusion, let's blame the other side for allowing it to happen. Really?

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Originally Posted By NYPat
Is this where we're at? Fox News talking point that it happened under Obama's watch? Really?

Let's not blame the people who actively engaged with the collusion, let's blame the other side for allowing it to happen. Really?

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It's like a dying animal backed into a corner about to be finished off. They do their character assassinations, their corrupt investigations, smear campaigns and finger-pointing, anything to place the blame anywhere else. The truth and facts thankfully don't care about their bull****.
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Originally Posted By NYPat
Can you imagine if our largest adversary hacked the RNC to help Hillary?..
If that help came in the form of authentic emails exposing the RNC's rampant corruption and treasonous behavior then I'd consider it taking out the trash.
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Originally Posted By NuggzTheNinja
If that help came in the form of authentic emails exposing the RNC's rampant corruption and treasonous behavior then I'd consider it taking out the trash.
Lol "authentic" then you'd be good with it.

Are Donny Jr's emails leaked yet?
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Originally Posted By NYPat
Lol "authentic" then you'd be good with it.

Are Donny Jr's emails leaked yet?
The emails exposed DNC corruption. Rather than focusing on taking out the trash in the DNC, you guys want to whine and bitch about who exposed the corruption. The DNC colluded with Hillary to beat Bernie. Thats what the emails showed us. Then Hillarys campaign chairman John Podesta (who is unusually quite right now) clicked on compromised links in his emails that set him up. Democrats love to blame everyone else for their own mistakes.
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post 1556363871 07-15-2018, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted By Tamorlane
And now they're investigating whether or not an American potential candidate worked with them to get elected and sabotage the country.
We know Russia backed Obama over Mitt "Russia is our greatest enemy Romney", we heard Obama himself tell the Russian President that'd he'd have more flexibility after the election, how badly did you want the FBI to investigate Obama over accepting help from Russia to win the Presidency over Romney?
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Originally Posted By Jrd86
The emails exposed DNC corruption. Rather than focusing on taking out the trash in the DNC, you guys want to whine and bitch about who exposed the corruption. The DNC colluded with Hillary to beat Bernie. Thats what the emails showed us. Then Hillarys campaign chairman John Podesta (who is unusually quite right now) clicked on compromised links in his emails that set him up. Democrats love to blame everyone else for their own mistakes.
Bernie knew his only chance to win was to run as a Dem. Independents just steal votes from the Dem Nom.

But what the DNC did to Bernie is NOT the same as a foreign adversary helping Trump.

Trying to equate the two (or worse) is ridiculous.
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Originally Posted By WrestlingFan123
We know Russia backed Obama over Mitt "Russia is our greatest enemy Romney", we heard Obama himself tell the Russian President that'd he'd have more flexibility after the election, how badly did you want the FBI to investigate Obama over accepting help from Russia to win the Presidency over Romney?
You're grasping at straws. Your talking points are that it would make sense that Russia favor a diplomatic democrat over a warhawk republican. Putin doesn't like Clinton because she stuck up to him as Secretary of State, and she's a democrat. The Russians specifically target right-wing nationalists. And your other point is that you heard a snippet of a conversation that could have been about anything. I could hear George Washington or Abe Lincoln say that to another leader and I wouldn't think there's a conspiracy, it's political leader talk especially when they lead democracies. If the person is an absolute scumbag and repeatedly lies and deceives then you may have a different impression from 'i'll have more flexibility after the election" because they shouldn't be trusted.

Trump meeting in private with Putin (who he's suspected of being a puppet for) and a suspected KGB 'translator'.

Also caught exposing classified information to Russians.

Son definitely tried setting up a meeting with Russians. Members of campaign connected to Russians. I wouldn't be surprised if the Kremlin have the white house bugged.
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Originally Posted By Stizzel
No one expects you to give even a single solitary ****. We're talking about a democrat engaging in blatant corrupuption after all. Its just lulzy when you libtards go on to pretend to have an objective concern for the rule of law.
Perhaps we can have a two year investigation and spend millions of dollars investigating Benghazi.
Perhaps we can have Hillary testify before congress for 13 hours.

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Originally Posted By AriGhold
No evidence of collusion has been released. There was no collusion!!!! Reeeeeeeeeee

Because prosecutors release evidence the day after the discover it. That would be absolutely normal.
It is my understanding that the investigation is not over, have you heard differently
Originally Posted By NYPat
Is this where we're at? Fox News talking point that it happened under Obama's watch? Really?

Let's not blame the people who actively engaged with the collusion, let's blame the other side for allowing it to happen. Really?

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It's all they got.
Originally Posted By NYPat
Bernie knew his only chance to win was to run as a Dem. Independents just steal votes from the Dem Nom.

But what the DNC did to Bernie is NOT the same as a foreign adversary helping Trump.

Trying to equate the two (or worse) is ridiculous.
.. and FTR phuck Bernie. He had a roll to play in getting the Golden Calf elected IMHO.. A national minimum wage is a bad idea. $15 buck/hr in Tulso OK is not the same as $15 in Seattle. This is definately a State and local issue.
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Originally Posted By NYPat
Is this where we're at? Fox News talking point that it happened under Obama's watch? Really?

Let's not blame the people who actively engaged with the collusion, let's blame the other side for allowing it to happen. Really?

Font size doesn't matter. Bananas don't matter.

Apples do.
Well let’s see here...

We have,
amongst others.... , a few issues here

1. Russia had a multi year intelligence propaganda attack in an attempt to influence the American election


2. The current administration that was in charge of security in all aspects at the time was Obama’s


3. There is a possibility the coming administration, not in charge of security yet, exploited the current administrations incompetent handling of security in collision to assist an already ongoing propaganda campaign that matched the end result of what they were openly campaigning for regardless.



Now we know for absolute certainty with no doubt number 1 happened because, well it happened right?

We also know for absolute certainty that number 2 is the case because, well it is an absolute known fact correct?


We don’t know for certain number three happened but we are investigating it?



So we are supposed to ignore the investigating of the deep issues as to why #1 happened(as was started before Trump even entered the race) during the known time of number 2 fact - and only focus on the allegation of number 3?

Interesting mindset indeed....






And that’s without even getting into the high possibility that the current administration knowingly neglected and possibly with intent- an allegation that much more open available data already indicates is possible.
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Originally Posted By NYPat
Bernie knew his only chance to win was to run as a Dem. Independents just steal votes from the Dem Nom.

But what the DNC did to Bernie is NOT the same as a foreign adversary helping Trump.

Trying to equate the two (or worse) is ridiculous.
Neither of those are equatable to the federal government intervening on behalf of a nominee, spying on an opposing campaign with the full force and power of the federal government, to try and help a democrat party campaign. A constitutional crises is a lot more srs than a foreign government using ******** bots to *gasp* change our election results (WAH WAH WAH)!!! And "Ohhhh" now Russia is a "foreign adversary" because you guys need a scapegoat as to why you guys lost an election. They werent a "foreign adversary" when Obama was running in 2012. But now that you guys lost an election, Russia is "bad".




Russia "Collusion"!!!!!!

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