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Originally Posted By z4v4
Yes, it was quite comical to listen to Trump talk about respect and decorum in the White House, lmao.
He was elected exactly because he is not a polished politician.

Duhhhh.....how do you not know this by now?

If America wanted another paint by numbers cookie cutter kissing (groping?) young kids and babies life long politician, they could have elected Joe Biden.
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Originally Posted By beowulf10
Sorry, man, but that just wasn't their argument in court. Their argument in court, which they lost by the way, took a pretty hostile stance against the First Amendment, and the Freedom of the Press.



Let me translate this for non-Trump supporters: Sit down. Stfu. Ask the questions Trump likes. Don't make Trump look like a racist demagogue.
See this is where you and I have a big disconnect.

Trump has never done that, talked like that, or hinted that he wanted it. It is the same people who protests at Universities saying Shapiro is a racist and when asked to name one racist thing he has ever said....they go "uhhhhhhhh..well I heard he was a racist".

It just hasn't happened.

I can admit Trump has his faults just like any other person. I can say there are things he needs to work on. I can say that about myself too.


You on the other hand, absolutely refuse to give Trump, or anyone on the right, any credit whatsoever, and are perfectly happy to criticize him for literally everything.

That, unless you are a mass murderer or a child rapist, is an impossibility. No one is that bad. And last I looked the country is running pretty damn good.

So until you can become less biased, and no one has said you need to switch sides, but just be less biased in everything you say? Your arguments are completely negated. You honestly remind me of the old Russian news service Pravda. ONLY ONE WAY TO THINK IS ALLOWED.
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Originally Posted By beowulf10
Sorry, man, but that just wasn't their argument in court. Their argument in court, which they lost by the way, took a pretty hostile stance against the First Amendment, and the Freedom of the Press.



Let me translate this for non-Trump supporters: Sit down. Stfu. Ask the questions Trump likes. Don't make Trump look like a racist demagogue.
You can't even admit Acosta has acted like a complete jackazz the past two years. A reporter needs to show decorum and respect in the white house. He has not. Maybe someday when he is the HMIC he can act like a jerk. Right now? He can't.
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Originally Posted By OptimistPrime11
You can't even admit Acosta has acted like a complete jackazz the past two years. A reporter needs to show decorum and respect in the white house. He has not. Maybe someday when he is the HMIC he can act like a jerk. Right now? He can't.
lol @ showing decorum and respect. trump kinda fukked the bed on the whole decorum and respect thing
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Originally Posted By sandaltan
lol @ showing decorum and respect. trump kinda fukked the bed on the whole decorum and respect thing
He is the big man on campus and was elected to be the BMOC.

That was part of his appeal to people and why he was elected.

Acosta needs to respect the office the Presidency. Instead he acts like he is yelling out insults while sitting in the stands at a baseball game.

It is not professional.

At all.
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Originally Posted By OptimistPrime11
Acosta needs to respect the office the Presidency. Instead he acts like he is yelling out insults while sitting in the stands at a baseball game.

It is not professional.
lol @ respecting the office of the presidency and yelling insults and acting not professional. trump kinda fukked the bed with the whole yelling insults and acting professional thing
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Simple solution.

Trump will go across the street, and hold ALL future press conferences on the grounds of his personal property, like his Trump Hotel on Pennsylvania Avenue, near the WH.


Supreme Court can't force Trump to do this on his personal property, or other venues.

Then, leave 1 chair in the WH Press room, and put a name tag with Jim Acosta on the chair. So he can sit there and stare at the empty room while the President holds a PC over at the Trump Hotel.
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Originally Posted By NameOfPeace
i ask this more out of curiosity but does due process as you mention it work for everyone that way or just the press? if i am offered a job then the offer is revoked without giving me a reason is that a violation of my rights to due process? also if they gave a reason simply as he was being to disruptive would that get rid of the violation since they gave a reason? and for the incels out there if a woman gives you her affections then withdraws the affection without giving a reason is that a violation?
In short, the 5A gives protection of citizens against the government in that they must be treat in a certain way and have fair procedure carried out, it also covers deprivation of life/liberty/property. As a work place isn't the federal gov taking action against someone for <reason> then I don't see it being covered, if the actions such as being disruptive were outlined and they could show reason (ie. you get 1 question, you scream out 3 hence this is grounds for it being revoked) then I'd assume no violation, a woman isn't federal gov.

To me the WH failed on multiple levels to justify it's actions, it's original position was that the WH wouldn't tolerate what he did to the intern yet that wasn't given as a reason, most likely because regardless of all the crying on Misc it would have been torn apart in a court room in light of (i) intern initiated (ii) intern made first contact (iii) based on his facing and engaging with the POTUS it would be difficult to prove intent of Acosta to "assault" someone, especially given those 2 earlier points.

Acosta is also employed to do a certain role, saying CNN could send someone else does nothing to change his circumstance that he personally cannot do his job to the same level, ergo the argument that he was deprived in some way by the federal government and if that's to happen then they needed to make sure they followed due process to carry out that action, which clearly they didn't otherwise the lawyers would have said what it was. This is also where a potential violation of the 1A comes into play (while not ruled on here) as if you establish that he was deprived of access that he originally granted without due process then you can also argue that his ability to act as a member of the press has been violated. I don't think the 1A argument is as strong as the 5A one, arguments can be made that not getting to be in a room doesn't violate his rights to report, where as there's clearly no process in play for the pass being revoked and most likely someone just said "revoke it" and thought that'd be fine.
Originally Posted By CalmWind
Simple solution.
Respect the fuking constitution?

It's mind blowing how many posters who would consider themselves to be patriotic, 2A loving, the constitution is the greatest document ever written, etc. yet are willing to shyt all over it when it comes to an individuals rights just because they don't like him or how he does his job, utterly cringe worthy.
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Originally Posted By deepfat
What part of you have to go back do you not understand?
What part of shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the pressdon't you understand?
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Originally Posted By sandaltan
lol @ respecting the office of the presidency and yelling insults and acting not professional. trump kinda fukked the bed with the whole yelling insults and acting professional thing
so your saying trump and acosta's behavior is acceptable?
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Originally Posted By OptimistPrime11
You can't even admit Acosta has acted like a complete jackazz the past two years. A reporter needs to show decorum and respect in the white house. He has not. Maybe someday when he is the HMIC he can act like a jerk. Right now? He can't.
I agree that Acosta is an annoying and pushy reporter who asks tough and critical questions of the Trump administration that bug Trump and Trump's supporters, but that's not a good enough reason to ban him.

The First Amendment is more important than your hatred of Acosta, more important than Acosta's pushy behavior.

Trump and his supporters have a right to their opinion, and I get that Trump supporters hate the media, but Trump and his supporters don't have the right to break the Republic. The ideas the judge based his ruling on today are core values, central to our laws, the way our government functions, and our way of life, and you will thank this judge the next time a President with whom you disagree holds the office.
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Originally Posted By beowulf10
I agree that Acosta is an annoying and pushy reporter who asks tough and critical questions of the Trump administration, but that's not a good enough reason to ban him.

The First Amendment is more important than your hatred of Acosta.

Trump and his supporters have a right to their opinion, and I get that Trump supporters hate the media, but Trump and his supporters don't have the right to break the Republic.
he didnt get banned for asking tough and critical questions, he got banned for his descriptiveness, bad attitude, and unprofessional actions such as refusing to give the microphone back to the intern. do you believe that kind of behavior is acceptable in the white house? please dont respond by bringing up trumps **** behavior as an excuse. either trumps behavior should be shunned and so should acostas or acostas behavior is ok and by extension trumps is acceptable. not trying to take a side or start an argument but seeing people on here constantly sidestepping reality makes me think half of you are just trolling, or truly incapable of setting aside your emotional biases
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Originally Posted By beowulf10
I agree that Acosta is an annoying and pushy reporter who asks tough and critical questions of the Trump administration that bug Trump and Trump's supporters, but that's not a good enough reason to ban him.

The First Amendment is more important than your hatred of Acosta, more important than Acosta's pushy behavior.

Trump and his supporters have a right to their opinion, and I get that Trump supporters hate the media, but Trump and his supporters don't have the right to break the Republic. The ideas the judge based his ruling on today are core values, central to our laws, the way our government functions, and our way of life, and you will thank this judge the next time a President with whom you disagree holds the office.
NOPE nope nope.

Sam Donaldson asked tough and critical questions. But he wasn't a self entitled know it all jerk paid by globalists to push an agenda.

Acosta is.
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Originally Posted By Reflexez
Respect the fuking constitution?

It's mind blowing how many posters who would consider themselves to be patriotic, 2A loving, the constitution is the greatest document ever written, etc. yet are willing to shyt all over it when it comes to an individuals rights just because they don't like him or how he does his job, utterly cringe worthy.
You don't get to disturb the peace and refuse to give up the microphone just because of the 1A.
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Originally Posted By CalmWind
You don't get to disturb the peace and refuse to give up the microphone just because of the 1A.
Trump hit it on the head during the order signing today.

They will write rules and regs and in the mean time of media wants to be dicks nothing is forcing the speaker to stay.
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Originally Posted By JRMoore82
Trump hit it on the head during the order signing today.

They will write rules and regs and in the mean time of media wants to be dicks nothing is forcing the speaker to stay.
Trump could always do it like Harvard does it.

If someone has a question, they walk up to the side of the room, get in line, and when they reach the table, they are instructed to write their question down on a piece of paper, and then the WH Employee at the table, hands it to an intern, who walks over to the President with another question.

No more shouting, no more making celebrity journalists, etc.
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Originally Posted By CalmWind
You don't get to disturb the peace and refuse to give up the microphone just because of the 1A.
I'm sure you're really grateful for the 1A and how it allows people like yourself to vomit your ignorant opinions about a wide range of topics you don't have the first clue about.

Don't let the topic not being about the 1A or the fact Acosta didn't "disturb the peace", nor the part about a Trump appointed judge ruling against him get in the way of you telling us all exactly how it is, cause that's what your freedom is all about, freedom from having to use your brain to come up with a coherent argument.
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Originally Posted By CalmWind
Trump could always do it like Harvard does it.

If someone has a question, they walk up to the side of the room, get in line, and when they reach the table, they are instructed to write their question down on a piece of paper, and then the WH Employee at the table, hands it to an intern, who walks over to the President with another question.

No more shouting, no more making celebrity journalists, etc.
I do agree I have always thought it kind of ridiculous how the press can just shout at will asking for the POTUS attention.'

Seems really uncivilized. And that goes for both Rep. and Dem. POTUS.
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Originally Posted By CalmWind
Trump could always do it like Harvard does it.

If someone has a question, they walk up to the side of the room, get in line, and when they reach the table, they are instructed to write their question down on a piece of paper, and then the WH Employee at the table, hands it to an intern, who walks over to the President with another question.

No more shouting, no more making celebrity journalists, etc.
Seems like that’s almost the better idea.

I mean it’s been a long unwritten rule with the only one question not causing a disturbance and all that (**** Obama threw someone out for that and the journalists chanted) but now cause of Acosta we actually gotta write this **** out just to stop the kindergartners from being dicks on a presser.
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Originally Posted By Reflexez
I'm sure you're really grateful for the 1A and how it allows people like yourself to vomit your ignorant opinions about a wide range of topics you don't have the first clue about.

Don't let the topic not being about the 1A or the fact Acosta didn't "disturb the peace", nor the part about a Trump appointed judge ruling against him get in the way of you telling us all exactly how it is, cause that's what your freedom is all about, freedom from having to use your brain to come up with a coherent argument.
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Originally Posted By Reflexez
I'm sure you're really grateful for the 1A and how it allows people like yourself to vomit your ignorant opinions about a wide range of topics you don't have the first clue about.

Don't let the topic not being about the 1A or the fact Acosta didn't "disturb the peace", nor the part about a Trump appointed judge ruling against him get in the way of you telling us all exactly how it is, cause that's what your freedom is all about, freedom from having to use your brain to come up with a coherent argument.
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Originally Posted By Sal29
What part of shall make no law prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the pressdon't you understand?
The White House isn't prohibiting anyone's free speech. Acosta could still write whatever he wanted.

Jesus, you're stupid even for a flat-earther.
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I truly hope that Trump and other officials decide to walk out when they get what they consider "hostile" questions

The optics on that would be amazing to see.

Ommggggzzzz hostile question I'm outta here !
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Originally Posted By CalmWind
Location : UK

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Originally Posted By JRMoore82
Location : Great Britain.

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Imagine being so retarded that the best thing you can say is "Location: UK" when talking about your own constitution, fuking lol.
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Originally Posted By Reflexez
Imagine being so retarded that the best thing you can say is "Location: UK" when talking about your own constitution, fuking lol.
Problem is we understand it very well. 1A doesn’t give you the right to be somewhere. That’s not what it protects. Just cause the media wants to interview me doesn’t mean they can just barge into my house and claim 1A.

That’s why we are laughing at you and your lack of constitutional understanding.
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Originally Posted By JRMoore82
Problem is we u defat and it very well. 1A doesn’t give you the right to be somewhere. That’s not what it protects. Just cause the media wants to interview me doesn’t mean they can just barge into my house and claim 1A.

That’s why we are laughing at you and you’re lack of constitutional understanding.
"Problem is we u defat and it very well."

Well consider me utterly schooled by someone sucking on their keyboard and talking about the 1A which has nothing to do with any of my previous posts on the topic of this thread.

As I said, you should rightfully celebrate that you have the freedom afforded to you which allows you to post such nonsensical garbage.
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fukin lol at Trumpers being all about safe spaces now. You guys are fukin relentless in your pursuit to lower standards.
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Originally Posted By bobbydigitaloa
This was my thought...just never take his questions.
That doesn't work. He's disruptive and screams the questions out, even from the back. Have you watched him in action? The other reporters try to shush him and he still keeps on. He's a heckler, not a reporter.
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