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How do you not see what they are doing? This is just another manufactured event to divide and conquer.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
I think you're getting two different incidents confused; you just switched from talking about a guy being tackled (Alton Sterling) to talking about a guy who was shot while reaching into his pants (Philando Castile).Lol at resisting when getting shot four times trying to show your license and registration when asked to produce it. Carrying got him killed.
And "it's probably safer for everyone" that a person is murdered because someone claimed he "whip out a gun to threaten someone" is proof you are a complete idiot.
RIP dumbass.
And "it's probably safer for everyone" that a person is murdered because someone claimed he "whip out a gun to threaten someone" is proof you are a complete idiot.
RIP dumbass.
Not sure why you're telling me to RIP; I have no intention of trying to fight police officers because I'm not a trashy thug.
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Originally Posted By beowulf10⏩
in 2014 there were 2,427,683 African American's arrested...238 killed. That's 0.0098%.This is a stupid stat. There aren't that many cops in the US and there are 40 million Blacks in the US. Cops would have to kill a huge number of unarmed Blacks to achieve any kind of parity. Any kind of comparison like this between any non LEO job type and Blacks would show a similar result just because of the large number of Blacks in the US. If you compared accountants to blacks you'd get the same result for instance.
And this isn't a competition or a war. There aren't any "sides" to this. It's a problem we all have to solve together.
And this isn't a competition or a war. There aren't any "sides" to this. It's a problem we all have to solve together.
In 2014 there were 6,056,687 whites arrested and 480 killed by police from the data I could find. That's 0.0079% compared to 0.0098%. For more perspective, that means 1 white was killed for every 12,618 arrests and 1 black for every 10,200 arrests. Is that really all that shocking when we know the percentage of violent crime that is prevalent in the African-American communities due to the drug war, gangs, etc.?
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07-08-2016, 11:15 PM
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No confusion, two people got murdered. One who got attacked by police and pinned on the ground and shot six times, and the other who got shot four times trying to show his license and registration. Both carried. Neither lived.I think you're getting two different incidents confused; you just switched from talking about a guy being tackled (Alton Sterling) to talking about a guy who was shot while reaching into his pants (Philando Castile).
Not sure why you're telling me to RIP. I have no intention of trying to fight police officers because I'm not a trashy thug.
Not sure why you're telling me to RIP. I have no intention of trying to fight police officers because I'm not a trashy thug.
And nice to see you're doubling down on your racist "trashy thug" narrative.
I recommend you start deleting all your racist posts that you can. While it's not too late.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Trashy thug is not a racial slur, nor does it attempt to describe anyone based on skin color. What it describes - to sane people - is someone who is involved with crime and has little to no regard for others. Not sure why you feel the need to inject racist sentiments into every discussion.No confusion, two people got murdered. One who got attacked by police and pinned on the ground and shot six times, and the other who got shot four times trying to show his license and registration. Both carried. Neither lived.
And nice to see you're doubling down on your racist "trashy thug" narrative.
I recommend you start deleting all your racist posts that you can. While it's not too late.
And nice to see you're doubling down on your racist "trashy thug" narrative.
I recommend you start deleting all your racist posts that you can. While it's not too late.
Also, you can stop misapplying the word "murder" whenever you feel like being intellectually honest. A murder is an unlawful killing. We don't know yet whether these killings were lawful or unlawful, though in one of these two cases it certainly looks to be lawful.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Trashy thug sounds more like a white slur then black imoNo confusion, two people got murdered. One who got attacked by police and pinned on the ground and shot six times, and the other who got shot four times trying to show his license and registration. Both carried. Neither lived.
And nice to see you're doubling down on your racist "trashy thug" narrative.
I recommend you start deleting all your racist posts that you can. While it's not too late.
And nice to see you're doubling down on your racist "trashy thug" narrative.
I recommend you start deleting all your racist posts that you can. While it's not too late.
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The main issue is most people don't think of themselves as racists, because they don't have any overt negative feelings towards individual people. Like that Bill Burr skit, "Get out of the pool!"
But everybody of all races have innate prejudices that are just constantly reinforced by society and their communities, and that includes going against your own race. It is almost entirely subconscious.
There's a test you can do for a study, where they have a picture of a background then either a white or black person shows up with an object in their hand. It's either a gun or like a cell phone or wallet or some other innocent object. You then get less than a second to decide to shoot or nah. Even if you know beforehand going into the study, you're still going to end up being more likely to shoot the black people. Even if you're black. The only exception is those unknowingly primed with positive black imagery beforehand. Maybe they listen to a MLK jr speech or watch a news story of a black person doing a good deed.
So in a split-second situation, I do believe black people get the sh*t end of the stick. But I don't think it's because there's this whole culture of people who want to bring the KKK back. It's a complicated situation and too many people try to dumb it down on all sides.
But everybody of all races have innate prejudices that are just constantly reinforced by society and their communities, and that includes going against your own race. It is almost entirely subconscious.
There's a test you can do for a study, where they have a picture of a background then either a white or black person shows up with an object in their hand. It's either a gun or like a cell phone or wallet or some other innocent object. You then get less than a second to decide to shoot or nah. Even if you know beforehand going into the study, you're still going to end up being more likely to shoot the black people. Even if you're black. The only exception is those unknowingly primed with positive black imagery beforehand. Maybe they listen to a MLK jr speech or watch a news story of a black person doing a good deed.
So in a split-second situation, I do believe black people get the sh*t end of the stick. But I don't think it's because there's this whole culture of people who want to bring the KKK back. It's a complicated situation and too many people try to dumb it down on all sides.
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Originally Posted By Epilerik⏩
Makes senseThe main issue is most people don't think of themselves as racists, because they don't have any overt negative feelings towards individual people. Like that Bill Burr skit, "Get out of the pool!"
But everybody of all races have innate prejudices that are just constantly reinforced by society and their communities, and that includes going against your own race. It is almost entirely subconscious.
There's a test you can do for a study, where they have a picture of a background then either a white or black person shows up with an object in their hand. It's either a gun or like a cell phone or wallet or some other innocent object. You then get less than a second to decide to shoot or nah. Even if you know beforehand going into the study, you're still going to end up being more likely to shoot the black people. Even if you're black. The only exception is those unknowingly primed with positive black imagery beforehand. Maybe they listen to a MLK jr speech or watch a news story of a black person doing a good deed.
So in a split-second situation, I do believe black people get the sh*t end of the stick. But I don't think it's because there's this whole culture of people who want to bring the KKK back. It's a complicated situation and too many people try to dumb it down on all sides.
But everybody of all races have innate prejudices that are just constantly reinforced by society and their communities, and that includes going against your own race. It is almost entirely subconscious.
There's a test you can do for a study, where they have a picture of a background then either a white or black person shows up with an object in their hand. It's either a gun or like a cell phone or wallet or some other innocent object. You then get less than a second to decide to shoot or nah. Even if you know beforehand going into the study, you're still going to end up being more likely to shoot the black people. Even if you're black. The only exception is those unknowingly primed with positive black imagery beforehand. Maybe they listen to a MLK jr speech or watch a news story of a black person doing a good deed.
So in a split-second situation, I do believe black people get the sh*t end of the stick. But I don't think it's because there's this whole culture of people who want to bring the KKK back. It's a complicated situation and too many people try to dumb it down on all sides.
Good post
Quick experiment I just did in my head
"Name 2 famous black people" > Tupac and Biggie
"Name two famous white people" > Justin Timberlake and Tom Cruise (have no idea why they just popped in)
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07-10-2016, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted By Epilerik⏩
Except for the following facts:The main issue is most people don't think of themselves as racists, because they don't have any overt negative feelings towards individual people. Like that Bill Burr skit, "Get out of the pool!"
But everybody of all races have innate prejudices that are just constantly reinforced by society and their communities, and that includes going against your own race. It is almost entirely subconscious.
There's a test you can do for a study, where they have a picture of a background then either a white or black person shows up with an object in their hand. It's either a gun or like a cell phone or wallet or some other innocent object. You then get less than a second to decide to shoot or nah. Even if you know beforehand going into the study, you're still going to end up being more likely to shoot the black people. Even if you're black. The only exception is those unknowingly primed with positive black imagery beforehand. Maybe they listen to a MLK jr speech or watch a news story of a black person doing a good deed.
So in a split-second situation, I do believe black people get the sh*t end of the stick. But I don't think it's because there's this whole culture of people who want to bring the KKK back. It's a complicated situation and too many people try to dumb it down on all sides.
But everybody of all races have innate prejudices that are just constantly reinforced by society and their communities, and that includes going against your own race. It is almost entirely subconscious.
There's a test you can do for a study, where they have a picture of a background then either a white or black person shows up with an object in their hand. It's either a gun or like a cell phone or wallet or some other innocent object. You then get less than a second to decide to shoot or nah. Even if you know beforehand going into the study, you're still going to end up being more likely to shoot the black people. Even if you're black. The only exception is those unknowingly primed with positive black imagery beforehand. Maybe they listen to a MLK jr speech or watch a news story of a black person doing a good deed.
So in a split-second situation, I do believe black people get the sh*t end of the stick. But I don't think it's because there's this whole culture of people who want to bring the KKK back. It's a complicated situation and too many people try to dumb it down on all sides.
2x as many whites are killed by cops every year, despite blacks committing more crime
42% of cop killers are black
Black cops are 3.5x more likely to use their gun
When cops have ANY discretion, the black crime rate actually goes down, i.e:
In terms of rape, aggravated assault, grand larceny obviously you can't let people go or give them a warning....the rate goes down in situations where cops have the ability to use more discretion
This is corroborated by:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...t-black-suspe/
An innovative study published in the Journal of Experimental Criminology found that participants in realistic simulations felt more threatened by black suspects yet took longer to pull the trigger on black men than on white or Hispanic men.
“The second things is, I’ve had multiple officers tell me they were worried in the wake of a shooting because they shot a black person, and I’ve had multiple officers tell me that they were glad that the person they shot was white,” Mr. Klinger said. “Because then they knew they weren’t going to have to be subject to the racial harangue.”
The study found that the 48 participants waited longest before firing on black suspects in “shoot” scenarios, even though the participants exhibited “stronger threat responses” when facing black suspects than with white or Hispanic suspects.
Eighty-five percent of the participants were white, and none was a police officer. At the same time, a 2013 study led by Ms. James using active police, military and the general public found the same phenomenon: All three groups took longer to shoot black suspects, and participants were also more likely to fire on unarmed whites and Hispanics than blacks.
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And it doesn't matter if they had a permit to carry. As usual they were both low life trash thugs.
Look at all the lying people with fake medical problems and cannabis cards. Its just a bunch of bs.
Look at all the lying people with fake medical problems and cannabis cards. Its just a bunch of bs.
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The problem with any police incident involving a fatality it is always easy with the comfort of time and hindsight to say this should have happened and this should have been done.
Unless you have had to try and restrain someone you will not understand how hard it is. Some people can restrain others quite easily based on size and strength and other based on perhaps background skills (wrestling/grappling)
Now a normal police officer on his own trying to restrain someone of the same size will struggle if they are matched equally. That is why it takes several officers to restrain that person adequately...
I have posted on another thread where another poster posted a vid of a campaigner against police shootings. He was invited to a police exercise where he realised the harsh reality of police and what decisions they have to make in a split second
Unless you have had to try and restrain someone you will not understand how hard it is. Some people can restrain others quite easily based on size and strength and other based on perhaps background skills (wrestling/grappling)
Now a normal police officer on his own trying to restrain someone of the same size will struggle if they are matched equally. That is why it takes several officers to restrain that person adequately...
I have posted on another thread where another poster posted a vid of a campaigner against police shootings. He was invited to a police exercise where he realised the harsh reality of police and what decisions they have to make in a split second
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new video(3 videos from the same guy) is out showing the shooter fairly close from street level, at the point when the shooter is near the corner of Lamar and Elm and when the cop is shot at the pillar
go to GLP(pinned thread right now) or LL
My big question continues to be how he got from there to inside the parking deck over a block away with so many cops in between him and the parking deck
go to GLP(pinned thread right now) or LL
My big question continues to be how he got from there to inside the parking deck over a block away with so many cops in between him and the parking deck
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BLM protest leaders telling people to shoot and run over cops... organization of peace. Also lol at the cucked white people just standing there with their heads down.
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Originally Posted By veggie530⏩
Get outa here with your facts and logic.in 2014 there were 2,427,683 African American's arrested...238 killed. That's 0.0098%.
In 2014 there were 6,056,687 whites arrested and 480 killed by police from the data I could find. That's 0.0079% compared to 0.0098%. For more perspective, that means 1 white was killed for every 12,618 arrests and 1 black for every 10,200 arrests. Is that really all that shocking when we know the percentage of violent crime that is prevalent in the African-American communities due to the drug war, gangs, etc.?
killedbypolice, mappingpoliceviolence, FBI UCR to get all the numbers.
In 2014 there were 6,056,687 whites arrested and 480 killed by police from the data I could find. That's 0.0079% compared to 0.0098%. For more perspective, that means 1 white was killed for every 12,618 arrests and 1 black for every 10,200 arrests. Is that really all that shocking when we know the percentage of violent crime that is prevalent in the African-American communities due to the drug war, gangs, etc.?
killedbypolice, mappingpoliceviolence, FBI UCR to get all the numbers.
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Originally Posted By NYPat⏩
Don't forget, he's also a convicted child rapist. IDK why libs insist on making a martyr out of a child rapist who died resisting arrest while armed with a gun.And nice to see you're doubling down on your racist "trashy thug" narrative.
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Originally Posted By BFast55⏩
Because Emir Obama told them to.Don't forget, he's also a convicted child rapist. IDK why libs insist on making a martyr out of a child rapist who died resisting arrest while armed with a gun.
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Originally Posted By BFast55⏩
A black person is generally the most protected class of person in America. Some people are willing to overlook these types of things because he is black. Period.Don't forget, he's also a convicted child rapist. IDK why libs insist on making a martyr out of a child rapist who died resisting arrest while armed with a gun.
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Originally Posted By HoganIsGOAT⏩
Dat der black privilege?A black person is generally the most protected class of person in America. Some people are willing to overlook these types of things because he is black. Period.
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Fuck BLM. They are quite literally the worst scum on earth. And of course they all see this guy who murdered 5 police officers as a hero..not surprised considering they are a racist and dangerous organization.
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Ironic: Dallas Police Chief (African American) David Brown's own SON has murdered a police officer.
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Originally Posted By NetherRealm⏩
BLM protest leaders telling people to shoot and run over cops... organization of peace. Also lol at the cucked white people just standing there with their heads down.
Holy moly. Those people are a nightmare. An absolute nightmare. The fact that they receive constant media attention and respect from liberals and liberal politicians is disgusting.BLM protest leaders telling people to shoot and run over cops... organization of peace. Also lol at the cucked white people just standing there with their heads down.
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Originally Posted By Mohammed786⏩
The problem with any police incident involving a fatality it is always easy with the comfort of time and hindsight to say this should have happened and this should have been done.
Unless you have had to try and restrain someone you will not understand how hard it is. Some people can restrain others quite easily based on size and strength and other based on perhaps background skills (wrestling/grappling)
Now a normal police officer on his own trying to restrain someone of the same size will struggle if they are matched equally. That is why it takes several officers to restrain that person adequately...
I have posted on another thread where another poster posted a vid of a campaigner against police shootings. He was invited to a police exercise where he realised the harsh reality of police and what decisions they have to make in a split second
Unless you have had to try and restrain someone you will not understand how hard it is. Some people can restrain others quite easily based on size and strength and other based on perhaps background skills (wrestling/grappling)
Now a normal police officer on his own trying to restrain someone of the same size will struggle if they are matched equally. That is why it takes several officers to restrain that person adequately...
I have posted on another thread where another poster posted a vid of a campaigner against police shootings. He was invited to a police exercise where he realised the harsh reality of police and what decisions they have to make in a split second
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Originally Posted By NVious⏩
Re-read my postExcept for the following facts:
2x as many whites are killed by cops every year, despite blacks committing more crime
42% of cop killers are black
Black cops are 3.5x more likely to use their gun
When cops have ANY discretion, the black crime rate actually goes down, i.e:
In terms of rape, aggravated assault, grand larceny obviously you can't let people go or give them a warning....the rate goes down in situations where cops have the ability to use more discretion
This is corroborated by:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...t-black-suspe/
An innovative study published in the Journal of Experimental Criminology found that participants in realistic simulations felt more threatened by black suspects yet took longer to pull the trigger on black men than on white or Hispanic men.
The second things is, Ive had multiple officers tell me they were worried in the wake of a shooting because they shot a black person, and Ive had multiple officers tell me that they were glad that the person they shot was white, Mr. Klinger said. Because then they knew they werent going to have to be subject to the racial harangue.
The study found that the 48 participants waited longest before firing on black suspects in shoot scenarios, even though the participants exhibited stronger threat responses when facing black suspects than with white or Hispanic suspects.
Eighty-five percent of the participants were white, and none was a police officer. At the same time, a 2013 study led by Ms. James using active police, military and the general public found the same phenomenon: All three groups took longer to shoot black suspects, and participants were also more likely to fire on unarmed whites and Hispanics than blacks.
2x as many whites are killed by cops every year, despite blacks committing more crime
42% of cop killers are black
Black cops are 3.5x more likely to use their gun
When cops have ANY discretion, the black crime rate actually goes down, i.e:
In terms of rape, aggravated assault, grand larceny obviously you can't let people go or give them a warning....the rate goes down in situations where cops have the ability to use more discretion
This is corroborated by:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...t-black-suspe/
An innovative study published in the Journal of Experimental Criminology found that participants in realistic simulations felt more threatened by black suspects yet took longer to pull the trigger on black men than on white or Hispanic men.
The second things is, Ive had multiple officers tell me they were worried in the wake of a shooting because they shot a black person, and Ive had multiple officers tell me that they were glad that the person they shot was white, Mr. Klinger said. Because then they knew they werent going to have to be subject to the racial harangue.
The study found that the 48 participants waited longest before firing on black suspects in shoot scenarios, even though the participants exhibited stronger threat responses when facing black suspects than with white or Hispanic suspects.
Eighty-five percent of the participants were white, and none was a police officer. At the same time, a 2013 study led by Ms. James using active police, military and the general public found the same phenomenon: All three groups took longer to shoot black suspects, and participants were also more likely to fire on unarmed whites and Hispanics than blacks.
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