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Breaking News: False flag oil tanker 'Iranian tor**** attack' in Persian Gulf..
Breaking News: False flag oil tanker 'Iranian tor**** attack' in Persian Gulf..
06-14-2019, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted By BearyManilowe⏩
Iran shot a drone down a couple of weeks ago in the same area. Wouldn’t you think if someone did have intel that Iran didn’t do it they would come out and say that? I mean it’s a bit perplexing to think the US could trick the entire world that Iran did this if they didn’t.That is next level trolling and trash posting. Amazing how you buy a few reps and this is how you use them.
This is in line with the official US Navy report already released, but Japan and Iran are still telling different stories. Seems like a lot of conjecture from all parties still, and they're tying it to the country of Iran based on the type of boat. I don't know who's responsible, but I dont know that anyone other than the US is pointing fingers definitively. I'm still in a holding pattern here but I do have 2 questions:
1) if Iran is "the biggest threat to the ME" why can't they shoot down one drone down nor use ordinance that actually detonates. Doesnt seem very threatening or imposing.
2) why is it only the US' responsibility to intervene here? Why does the US Navy have the only actionable Intel in such a high trafficked oil transportation route? I feel like at least 1 other person should have some kind of Intel here.
This is in line with the official US Navy report already released, but Japan and Iran are still telling different stories. Seems like a lot of conjecture from all parties still, and they're tying it to the country of Iran based on the type of boat. I don't know who's responsible, but I dont know that anyone other than the US is pointing fingers definitively. I'm still in a holding pattern here but I do have 2 questions:
1) if Iran is "the biggest threat to the ME" why can't they shoot down one drone down nor use ordinance that actually detonates. Doesnt seem very threatening or imposing.
2) why is it only the US' responsibility to intervene here? Why does the US Navy have the only actionable Intel in such a high trafficked oil transportation route? I feel like at least 1 other person should have some kind of Intel here.
06-14-2019, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted By Dorich⏩
Bullschit. That donation rep pool was something like 20% of the amount you shot up by in 12 hours. Stop lying.Buying reps? LOL @ a couple of reps I got via two or three donations. Clearly that's how I got to 130K. Clearly.
Also LMFAO @ caring about other people's reps. Do you keep an Excel spreadsheet file keeping track of people's rep progress?
Nice life bro.
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06-14-2019, 05:40 PM
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According to #US #CENTCOM, #IRGC Navy Special Forces who attached Limpet Mines to the Kokuka Courageous & Front *****r Oil Tankers in #Oman Sea also unsuccessfully tried to shoot-down a #USAF's MQ-9 Combat Drone which was monitoring their boat. They used Misagh-2 (QW-1M) MANPADS.
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Just In; A US drone tracked Iranian boats closing in on the 2 tankers prior to attack Thurs. Iran spotted the MQ-9 & launched a SAM missile but missed. Missile fell into sea Days earlier a Reaper shot down in Red Sea by Iranian backed Houthis. None of this been announced.
Iranians fired missile at US drone prior to tanker attack, US official says
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/14/polit...ats/index.html
Washington (CNN)In the hours before the attack on the two tankers in the Gulf of Oman on Thursday, the Iranians spotted a US drone flying overhead and launched a surface-to-air missile at the unmanned aircraft, a US official told CNN.
The missile missed the drone and fell into the water, the official said.
Prior to taking fire, the American MQ-9 drone observed Iranian vessels closing in on the tankers, the official added, though the source did not say whether the unmanned aircraft saw the boats conducting an actual attack.
Still, it is the first claim that the US has information of Iranian movements prior to the attack.
CNN has not seen any imagery from the US drones.
Iran has strenuously denied any involvement in the attack.
The same official also said in the days prior to the attack, a US reaper drone was shot down in the Red Sea by what is believed to be an Iranian missile fired by Houthi rebels.
The Pentagon had tough words for Iran on Friday as the US continues to assert its claim that Tehran was responsible for the attack on the two oil tankers in international waters after releasing video footage its says shows an Iranian patrol boat removing an unexploded mine from one of the vessels' hulls.
"We're making sure that General McKenzie and the central command has the resources and the support that they need to conduct their missions," acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan said, adding that the US continues to work on building an international consensus that Iran was behind the attack.
Trump says Iran 'did do it'
The United Kingdom released a statement Friday saying it is "almost certain" that a branch of the Iranian military -- the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) -- attacked two tankers.
The IRGC is an elite wing of the Iranian military that was established in the aftermath of the country's revolution in 1979. In April 2019, the US officially designated it as a foreign terrorist organization, a move which was rejected by authorities in Tehran.
No other state or non-state actor "could plausibly have been responsible," the statement added.
But Iran does not appear to be backing off and continues to engage in provocative behavior, according to a US official who told CNN on Friday that Iranian small boats are preventing tug boats from towing away one of the damaged tankers.
President Donald Trump seems convinced that Tehran was responsible.
"Iran did do it and you know they did it because you saw the boat," he said, appearing to refer to the images and video released by the Pentagon late Thursday.
In the video, a smaller boat is shown coming up to the side of the Japanese-owned tanker. An individual stands up on the bow of the boat and can be seen removing an object from the tanker's hull. The US says that object is likely an unexploded mine.
A senior diplomatic source of a US ally told CNN Friday, "It is a virtual certainty Iran was behind this latest attack. The video now nails it."
The source added that the goal of the response from the US government thus far is all about publicly exposing Iranian actions and intensifying maximum pressure.
After the United States withdrew from the Iran nuclear deal, it adopted a policy of maximum economic pressure and sent a carrier group to the region, the source said this "Iranian retaliation is designed to show they can disrupt, and push oil prices up."
The Trump administration predicted that the pressure from the United States would bring Iran to the negotiating table, but European leaders disagreed, believing it would empower the hardliners, the source continued.
Iran denies involvement
Iran has denied any involvement in the incident, with its foreign minister suggesting that the US was quick to make allegations "without a shred of evidence."
The attack could provide more fodder for Iran hawks within the US administration, whose recent Iran saber-rattling has frustrated Trump. One of them, national security adviser John Bolton, announced last month that the Pentagon was deploying the USS Abraham Lincoln Carrier Strike Group and a bomber task force to the Middle East in response to a "number of troubling and escalatory indications and warnings" from Iran.
The two tankers -- one carrying oil and the other transporting chemicals -- were attacked near the strategically important Strait of Hormuz, a vital shipping route that has been the focal point of regional tensions for decades. Roughly 30% of the world's sea-borne crude oil passes through the strategic choke point, making it a flashpoint for political and economic friction.
Jonathan Cohen, acting US ambassador to the United Nations, said Thursday that he echoed Pompeo's comments in a private meeting of the UN Security Council, describing the attack as "another example of Iran's destabilizing activities in the region."
The Iranian mission to the UN rejected the US' claim.
Alireza Miryousefi, a spokesman for the Iranian mission, tweeted a statement saying Iran "categorically rejects the US unfounded claim" that Iran is behind the attacks and "condemns it in the strongest possible terms."
He added that Iran "expresses concern" over the "suspicious incidents." And he called it "ironic" that the US, which withdrew from the nuclear deal with Iran, the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, is now calling Iran to come back for negotiations and diplomacy.
Video shows Iran removing unexploded mine from tanker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFcjzKAcC-c
According to #US #CENTCOM, #IRGC Navy Special Forces who attached Limpet Mines to the Kokuka Courageous & Front *****r Oil Tankers in #Oman Sea also unsuccessfully tried to shoot-down a #USAF's MQ-9 Combat Drone which was monitoring their boat. They used Misagh-2 (QW-1M) MANPADS.
Lucas Tomlinson @LucasFoxNews
Obama defense secretary: “Iranians are feeling the pressure of sanctions,” Ash Carter tells @BretBaier
Barbara Starr @barbarastarrcnn
Just In; A US drone tracked Iranian boats closing in on the 2 tankers prior to attack Thurs. Iran spotted the MQ-9 & launched a SAM missile but missed. Missile fell into sea Days earlier a Reaper shot down in Red Sea by Iranian backed Houthis. None of this been announced.
Iranians fired missile at US drone prior to tanker attack, US official says
https://www.cnn.com/2019/06/14/polit...ats/index.html
Washington (CNN)In the hours before the attack on the two tankers in the Gulf of Oman on Thursday, the Iranians spotted a US drone flying overhead and launched a surface-to-air missile at the unmanned aircraft, a US official told CNN.
The missile missed the drone and fell into the water, the official said.
Prior to taking fire, the American MQ-9 drone observed Iranian vessels closing in on the tankers, the official added, though the source did not say whether the unmanned aircraft saw the boats conducting an actual attack.
Still, it is the first claim that the US has information of Iranian movements prior to the attack.
CNN has not seen any imagery from the US drones.
Iran has strenuously denied any involvement in the attack.
The same official also said in the days prior to the attack, a US reaper drone was shot down in the Red Sea by what is believed to be an Iranian missile fired by Houthi rebels.
The Pentagon had tough words for Iran on Friday as the US continues to assert its claim that Tehran was responsible for the attack on the two oil tankers in international waters after releasing video footage its says shows an Iranian patrol boat removing an unexploded mine from one of the vessels' hulls.
"We're making sure that General McKenzie and the central command has the resources and the support that they need to conduct their missions," acting Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan said, adding that the US continues to work on building an international consensus that Iran was behind the attack.
Trump says Iran 'did do it'
The United Kingdom released a statement Friday saying it is "almost certain" that a branch of the Iranian military -- the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) -- attacked two tankers.
The IRGC is an elite wing of the Iranian military that was established in the aftermath of the country's revolution in 1979. In April 2019, the US officially designated it as a foreign terrorist organization, a move which was rejected by authorities in Tehran.
No other state or non-state actor "could plausibly have been responsible," the statement added.
But Iran does not appear to be backing off and continues to engage in provocative behavior, according to a US official who told CNN on Friday that Iranian small boats are preventing tug boats from towing away one of the damaged tankers.
President Donald Trump seems convinced that Tehran was responsible.
"Iran did do it and you know they did it because you saw the boat," he said, appearing to refer to the images and video released by the Pentagon late Thursday.
In the video, a smaller boat is shown coming up to the side of the Japanese-owned tanker. An individual stands up on the bow of the boat and can be seen removing an object from the tanker's hull. The US says that object is likely an unexploded mine.
A senior diplomatic source of a US ally told CNN Friday, "It is a virtual certainty Iran was behind this latest attack. The video now nails it."
The source added that the goal of the response from the US government thus far is all about publicly exposing Iranian actions and intensifying maximum pressure.
After the United States withdrew from the Iran nuclear deal, it adopted a policy of maximum economic pressure and sent a carrier group to the region, the source said this "Iranian retaliation is designed to show they can disrupt, and push oil prices up."
The Trump administration predicted that the pressure from the United States would bring Iran to the negotiating table, but European leaders disagreed, believing it would empower the hardliners, the source continued.
Iran denies involvement
Iran has denied any involvement in the incident, with its foreign minister suggesting that the US was quick to make allegations "without a shred of evidence."
The attack could provide more fodder for Iran hawks within the US administration, whose recent Iran saber-rattling has frustrated Trump. One of them, national security adviser John Bolton, announced last month that the Pentagon was deploying the USS Abraham Lincoln Carrier Strike Group and a bomber task force to the Middle East in response to a "number of troubling and escalatory indications and warnings" from Iran.
The two tankers -- one carrying oil and the other transporting chemicals -- were attacked near the strategically important Strait of Hormuz, a vital shipping route that has been the focal point of regional tensions for decades. Roughly 30% of the world's sea-borne crude oil passes through the strategic choke point, making it a flashpoint for political and economic friction.
Jonathan Cohen, acting US ambassador to the United Nations, said Thursday that he echoed Pompeo's comments in a private meeting of the UN Security Council, describing the attack as "another example of Iran's destabilizing activities in the region."
The Iranian mission to the UN rejected the US' claim.
Alireza Miryousefi, a spokesman for the Iranian mission, tweeted a statement saying Iran "categorically rejects the US unfounded claim" that Iran is behind the attacks and "condemns it in the strongest possible terms."
He added that Iran "expresses concern" over the "suspicious incidents." And he called it "ironic" that the US, which withdrew from the nuclear deal with Iran, the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, is now calling Iran to come back for negotiations and diplomacy.
Video shows Iran removing unexploded mine from tanker
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFcjzKAcC-c
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Originally Posted By Dorich⏩
Says the absolute ******* who was the liberalist lib that ever libbed a lib on this forum and then did a 180 to beg for reps.You're the biggest fraud on this forum, by far.
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06-14-2019, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted By N0rds⏩
Um, you didn't even understand me, dummy. The "clearly" was meant as sarcasm. Damn, you are really slow.Bullschit. That donation rep pool was something like 20% of the amount you shot up by in 12 hours. Stop lying.
Notice how most people here don't believe your unbelievable cover story about this account?
Notice how most people here don't believe your unbelievable cover story about this account?
What I was saying is that the donations had nothing to do with the "rep jump" some people are talking about, butthe rep jump also had nothing to do with someone "taking over" this account, or similar nonsense.
(a) There is no conspiracy whatsoever regarding my reps.
(b) I did receive some rep increase because of a few donations.
(c) The "rep jump" people (like yourself) talk about had nothing to do with the donations.
All three statements above - a, b, c - are true.
Is that really so hard for you to understand?
Also lmfao @ being so obsessed with rep points / green squares. Dayum.
06-14-2019, 06:43 PM
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So lets discuss this quite poor attempt at a false flag by Bolton. And lets talk about the rationale of the pro-war agenda members.
1) Iran decides to attack a Japanese tanker, at the time that the first Japanese Prime Minister to visit Iran in 41 years was meeting with Khamenei
2) Iran sends a boat to retrieve its own explosive bomb (mine) from a boat that is actively on fire already
3) The US is coincidentally there to film this at the same time
4) The Japanese tanker owner is lying about drone attacks that caused the explosions.
Yep. I have a bridge to sell you guys.
1) Iran decides to attack a Japanese tanker, at the time that the first Japanese Prime Minister to visit Iran in 41 years was meeting with Khamenei
2) Iran sends a boat to retrieve its own explosive bomb (mine) from a boat that is actively on fire already
3) The US is coincidentally there to film this at the same time
4) The Japanese tanker owner is lying about drone attacks that caused the explosions.
Yep. I have a bridge to sell you guys.
06-14-2019, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted By Thelonebadwolf⏩
I don't think so.So lets discuss this quite poor attempt at a false flag by Bolton. And lets talk about the rationale of the pro-war agenda members.
1) Iran decides to attack a Japanese tanker, at the time that the first Japanese Prime Minister to visit Iran in 41 years was meeting with Khamenei
2) Iran sends a boat to retrieve its own explosive bomb (mine) from a boat that is actively on fire already
3) The US is coincidentally there to film this at the same time
4) The Japanese tanker owner is lying about drone attacks that caused the explosions.
Yep. I have a bridge to sell you guys.
1) Iran decides to attack a Japanese tanker, at the time that the first Japanese Prime Minister to visit Iran in 41 years was meeting with Khamenei
2) Iran sends a boat to retrieve its own explosive bomb (mine) from a boat that is actively on fire already
3) The US is coincidentally there to film this at the same time
4) The Japanese tanker owner is lying about drone attacks that caused the explosions.
Yep. I have a bridge to sell you guys.
06-14-2019, 07:21 PM
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06-14-2019, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted By Thelonebadwolf⏩
Let’s start with a basic question. Do you believe the government of Iran are good people?So lets discuss this quite poor attempt at a false flag by Bolton. And lets talk about the rationale of the pro-war agenda members.
1) Iran decides to attack a Japanese tanker, at the time that the first Japanese Prime Minister to visit Iran in 41 years was meeting with Khamenei
2) Iran sends a boat to retrieve its own explosive bomb (mine) from a boat that is actively on fire already
3) The US is coincidentally there to film this at the same time
4) The Japanese tanker owner is lying about drone attacks that caused the explosions.
Yep. I have a bridge to sell you guys.
1) Iran decides to attack a Japanese tanker, at the time that the first Japanese Prime Minister to visit Iran in 41 years was meeting with Khamenei
2) Iran sends a boat to retrieve its own explosive bomb (mine) from a boat that is actively on fire already
3) The US is coincidentally there to film this at the same time
4) The Japanese tanker owner is lying about drone attacks that caused the explosions.
Yep. I have a bridge to sell you guys.
06-14-2019, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
No.Let’s start with a basic question. Do you believe the government of Iran are good people?
And I have years of experience protesting them and what they do to their people.
Doesn't mean they did it.
Let me ask if you think the people of the CIA or Saudi Arabia are ...good people?
06-14-2019, 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
That's a relative question. Every government is an oligarchic set-up that's soul purpose is to preserve the elite interest.Let’s start with a basic question. Do you believe the government of Iran are good people?
Sure, Iran's government does some dirty shyt, but can you say the U.S. government has been any better with the CIA takeover of the world after WW2? Iran doesn't have shyt on America. They don't have no where near the international clout America does.
I'll probably be accused as some shill, but I am just calling a spade a spade. Government is a dirty business, and the average citizen just greases the wheel.
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06-14-2019, 09:08 PM
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Man... this thread proved that you can buy reps but you can't buy no respect.
06-14-2019, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted By N0rds⏩
Do you have a spreadsheet keeping track of reps?Bullschit. That donation rep pool was something like 20% of the amount you shot up by in 12 hours. Stop lying.
Notice how most people here don't believe your unbelievable cover story about this account?
Notice how most people here don't believe your unbelievable cover story about this account?
Am I on the list?
06-14-2019, 10:16 PM
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What year is that video from?
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06-14-2019, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted By WestAfrica⏩
lolWhat year is that video from?
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Originally Posted By Thelonebadwolf⏩
Ok next question. Who has more to gain from causing turmoil in the Straight of Hormuz?No.
And I have years of experience protesting them and what they do to their people.
Doesn't mean they did it.
Let me ask if you think the people of the CIA or Saudi Arabia are ...good people?
And I have years of experience protesting them and what they do to their people.
Doesn't mean they did it.
Let me ask if you think the people of the CIA or Saudi Arabia are ...good people?
06-14-2019, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
Answer my previous question and I'll answer yours.Ok next question. Who has more to gain from causing turmoil in the Straight of Hormuz?
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Originally Posted By Thelonebadwolf⏩
No I don't think SA are good people and yes, I think the CIA are good people in reference to American citizens interest.Answer my previous question and I'll answer yours.
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Originally Posted By chalup⏩
They don't need to "trick the entire world"Iran shot a drone down a couple of weeks ago in the same area. Wouldn’t you think if someone did have intel that Iran didn’t do it they would come out and say that? I mean it’s a bit perplexing to think the US could trick the entire world that Iran did this if they didn’t.
Most of the world sees completely through their bs at this point.
They just know that flag waving middle America will lap up whatever they serve up and that allies will tow the line for reasons completely different to those stated.
Also, how do you prove that country X didn't do something? Only by proving that country Y did...... Very difficult to prove a negative in this context, compared to the usual American line of "we have evidence that they probably did this"
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Originally Posted By jakedel⏩
You tell us, Mr. Expert. What happened with the 'ship attack' that'd be sufficient cause for the U.S. to declare war on Iran?What do yall think about thisIran ship attack business ? Would people be ok with us going to war with them over these kind of things?
06-15-2019, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted By AcetylCoA⏩
It's pronounced E-ron.aware me? What is "Iran"?
06-15-2019, 08:41 AM
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there won't be a war with iran. america only invades countries they know they can take over with ease and without threat. they know iran will fight back and cause carnage.
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06-15-2019, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted By Comply_or_Die⏩
Strong post to usernamethere won't be a war with iran. america only invades countries they know they can take over with ease and without threat. they know iran will fight back and cause carnage.
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Originally Posted By Comply_or_Die⏩
Quite the opposite. The US longs for war against an opponent who will stand with them on the battlefield in a major engagement.there won't be a war with iran. america only invades countries they know they can take over with ease and without threat. they know iran will fight back and cause carnage.
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Youtube is trying to scrub this, evidently.
Israeli lobbyist suggest false flag with Iran
"you may recall we had to wait for Pearl Harbor some people might think mr. Wilson wanted to get us into World War oneyou may recall he had to wait for the Lusitania episodesome people might think that mr. Johnson wanted to send troops to Vietnamyou may recall they had to wait for the Gulf of Tonkin episodewe didn't go towar with Spain until the USS Maine explodedand may I point out thatmr. Lincoln did not feel he could call off the federal army until Fort Sumter was attackedwhich is why he ordered the commander at Fort Sumter todo exactly that thing which the South Carolinians had said would cause an attackso if in fact the Iranians aren't going to compromise it would be best if somebody else started the war"
IB Dorich goes apeschit.
Israeli lobbyist suggest false flag with Iran
"you may recall we had to wait for Pearl Harbor some people might think mr. Wilson wanted to get us into World War oneyou may recall he had to wait for the Lusitania episodesome people might think that mr. Johnson wanted to send troops to Vietnamyou may recall they had to wait for the Gulf of Tonkin episodewe didn't go towar with Spain until the USS Maine explodedand may I point out thatmr. Lincoln did not feel he could call off the federal army until Fort Sumter was attackedwhich is why he ordered the commander at Fort Sumter todo exactly that thing which the South Carolinians had said would cause an attackso if in fact the Iranians aren't going to compromise it would be best if somebody else started the war"
IB Dorich goes apeschit.
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