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post 1563975591 10-17-2018, 07:26 PM
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I swear this is scary

The US President, leader of the free world, is covering for Saudi Arabia, a country which is the root of Wahhabism / Islamic extremism, responsible for spreading this dangerous ideology to many other countries. A country whose citizens directly carried out the 9/11 attacks.

Putting the total absurdity of them not being on the US travel ban aside, they now tortured/killed/dismembered a US resident in a foreign country, merely because he kept criticizing them using his freedom of speech.

And Trump, along with many of his supporters, make tons of excuses / mental gymnastics to make this totally insignificant.

The same president and his supporters who are supposedly so tough on "Islamic terror", are covering for Saudi Arabia, a country that is literally the root of Islamic terror.

All this is happening in 2018.

What the fukk? srs
post 1563975721 10-17-2018, 07:27 PM
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Let's forget about Obama and Hillary...dude this is so old
post 1563975781 10-17-2018, 07:28 PM
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-he's arab so we don't care
-death wasn't on US soil, who cares
-Saudis handling their business, who cares
-it was just a diplomat who cares
-Trump is alpha #maga, who cares

Did I cover all of it?

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Originally Posted By PowersKenny⏩
Let's forget about Obama and Hillary...dude this is so old
Honestly irrelevant- the fact that Trump isn't changing the status quo when it comes to KSA sucks.
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post 1563975931 10-17-2018, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted By PowersKenny⏩
Let's forget about Obama and Hillary...dude this is so old
Huh?

I'm not saying this is solely a Trump related issue.

Every US President is a slave to Saudi Arabia and Israel. srs
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post 1563976111 10-17-2018, 07:31 PM
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See if you can get to the bottom of this, too, while you're at it, OP (and then I will actually give a rat's a**).

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Originally Posted By Xinroth⏩
Honestly irrelevant- the fact that Trump isn't changing the status quo when it comes to KSA sucks.
Agreed. I voted for him but he absolutely did not come through in regards to KSA.

I'm practically convinced that the status quo on Saudi will remain no matter who is elected or which party is in power.
post 1563976361 10-17-2018, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted By 401Delta⏩
See if you can get to the bottom of this, too, OP.



You guys are way too predictable.
post 1563976391 10-17-2018, 07:34 PM
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Also, guess which Middle Eastern country was exempt from Trump’s Muslim country travel ban?
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post 1563976451 10-17-2018, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted By Dorich⏩
The US President, leader of the free world, is covering for Saudi Arabia, a country which is the root of Wahhabism / Islamic extremism, responsible for spreading this dangerous ideology to many other countries. A country whose citizens directly carried out the 9/11 attacks.

Putting the total absurdity of them not being on the US travel ban aside, they now tortured/killed/dismembered a US resident in a foreign country, merely because he kept criticizing them using his freedom of speech.

And Trump, along with many of his supporters, make tons of excuses / mental gymnastics to make this totally insignificant.

The same president and his supporters who are supposedly so tough on "Islamic terror", are covering for Saudi Arabia, a country that is literally the root of Islamic terror.

All this is happening in 2018.

What the fukk? srs
and Merkel is allowing her citizens to be raped by animals that invade her country. Terrible i tell you
post 1563976661 10-17-2018, 07:38 PM
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Yeah, let's just bomb them. That always works.

I can kind of understand where liberals are coming from when it comes to Trump and foreign relations - they expected him to just bomb the hell out of everyone. But he's been more diplomatic about these things than anyone wants to give him credit for.
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post 1563976671 10-17-2018, 07:38 PM
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4th thread on this topic.
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post 1563976801 10-17-2018, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted By Pissbeerbreh⏩
Yeah, let's just bomb them. That always works.

I can kind of understand where liberals are coming from when it comes to Trump and foreign relations - they expected him to just bomb the hell out of everyone. But he's been more diplomatic about these things than anyone wants to give him credit for.
Right... because naturally the only alternative is to bomb them.

Strong critical thinking skills.
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Originally Posted By Pissbeerbreh⏩
Yeah, let's just bomb them. That always works.

I can kind of understand where liberals are coming from when it comes to Trump and foreign relations - they expected him to just bomb the hell out of everyone. But he's been more diplomatic about these things than anyone wants to give him credit for.
I wasn't srs about that part, for what it's worth.

Not that I'd care. Arabs would be better off without KSA in the region.
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and Merkel is allowing her citizens to be raped by animals that invade her country. Terrible i tell you
Didn't know Germany had plenty of goats that have citizenship status.


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post 1563977101 10-17-2018, 07:43 PM
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What does OP want to see happen?
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
What does OP want to see happen?
Liberals just want a bunch of war and conflict.


Always have and always will.
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
Liberals just want a bunch of war and conflict.


Always have and always will.
I mean, I'm no fan of KSA, at all, but let's be realistic here, out of all the **** this country has done for decades, this is what enrages the left?
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Originally Posted By Dorich⏩
Putting the total absurdity of them not being on the US travel ban aside...
Travel ban was only for failed states that did not have the infrastructure in place to accurately identify who was leaving and entering their countries. Saudi Arabia, for all it's issues, is not a failed state.

Your misunderstanding of the travel ban made me skip the rest of your post. You are ignorant and your opinion is worthless.
post 1563979601 10-17-2018, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
Liberals just want a bunch of war and conflict.


Always have and always will.
Stop projecting. Which liberals have been calling for war?
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Ah yes... the "journalist" that was a muslim brotherhood sympathizer. I am sure there is much more to this than the media is pushing.
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Originally Posted By LieutenantGains⏩
Stop projecting. Which liberals have been calling for war?
What do you want then?
post 1563980231 10-17-2018, 08:21 PM
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It all has to do with getting Turkey aligned with us securely again.

Trump will do enough to make it look serious that will please Turkey.

They are located in one of the most strategic parts of the world so we have to have them on our side.

Sadly, the reporter is only one man. it would not be fair of Trump to saddle every American with way higher gas prices just for that one guy so that is not going to happen,

2 things most lilkey will. The Saudis will probably execute some low lever agent and say he was a rouge nut, This will satisfy both Turkey and us.

Oh, and #2 is gas prices will go up. The Saudis cost give us a lifetime of free oil and gas stations will still say this is the reason for the increase.
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post 1563980441 10-17-2018, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
Liberals just want a bunch of war and conflict.


Always have and always will.
I remember a long while back on here, I saw a post that said “liberals are pro-war and pro-intervention until it happens. Then they act like they were against it the entire time”

That quote is quite accurate IMO. However I guess there’s not much Trump can do now, as he’s already decided to maintain the status quo. I would have much rather him take a strong stance against KSA from the get go. Not go to war with them, but we should not be supporting them either. They are one of the biggest supporters of terror and radical jihadists on earth.
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A I've said for years, USA needs to stay out of everybody's business and strengthen ourselves. War or tariffs on Saudi Arabia over the death of one person who has links to the Muslim Brotherhood is full retard.

Libs, you're all complaining about this because the media is making it a manufactured crisis but not providing any solutions. What do you want done?
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Waiting for the full details of the joint investigation to come to light. There are too many variables at play here to simply take it at face-value. I'm not entirely convinced that MBS or the King would've orchestrated this, it doesn't exactly tow in line with their recent trajectory. Of course, it also wouldn't be surprising.

In other news...

Originally Posted By John
I remember a long while back on here, I saw a post that said “liberals are pro-war and pro-intervention until it happens. Then they act like they were against it the entire time”

That quote is quite accurate IMO. However I guess there’s not much Trump can do now, as he’s already decided to maintain the status quo. I would have much rather him take a strong stance against KSA from the get go. Not go to war with them, but we should not be supporting them either. They are one of the biggest supporters of terror and radical jihadists on earth.
I think MBS is sincere about modernising Saudi Arabia and reducing Islamic extremism; he's younger blood that recognizes SA's long-term survival requires it. But how long do with give them to take decisive action? Tough call. You can't bring a civilization that is 1,500 years behind, into the light of modernism over night.
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A Muslim Brotherhood activist killed by slightly less radical Muslims in a Muslim land over Muslim chit.

Who cares? Is Trump supposed to bomb SA over this?
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Osama bin Laden and the 9/11 attackers hated our alliance with Saudi Arabia and listed it as 1 of 9 key reasons for their attack. They attacked us because they wanted us to end our alliance with SA and get out of the Middle East altogether.

just like OP and others here ...
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Just lol @ even worrying about this chit. What are you going to do about it? Go to the gym, make some gains, enjoy life, and keep your rifles loaded.

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If it comes to light that KSA/MBS were indeed responsible for orchestrating, what are people proposing the President do as retaliation?

The KSA-Israeli alliance is literally the geopolitical chess piece in the Middle East that stops both Russia and Iran from sweeping one of the most critical pieces of land on the planet. Do we put sanctions on them, and stop the sale of $110+bn of weaponry, likely also sacrificing their future investment in the economy?

That flies in the face of the "Russia is our biggest enemy" narrative and would more than likely completely change the rules of hemispheric power and global order.

There's no easy way to deal with this. Those chomping at the bit to punish Saudi without knowing the full details are either naive, or just hoping for chaos to derail the administration.
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