Thread: UFC 246: McGregor vs Cowboy
12-18-2019, 12:24 PM
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12-18-2019, 02:34 PM
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Should be a very entertaining bout!
If it stays standing, Conor is going to pick him apart. His movement/boxing is far superior.
If Cerrone is smart (and doesn't fall into the trap of being counter punched) he'll utilize his wrestling and work for the submission. IMO, that's the most realistic path to a Cowboy victory.
Disclaimer; would love to see Conor lose upon his "long awaited" return... I just don't see Cowboy besting him.
If it stays standing, Conor is going to pick him apart. His movement/boxing is far superior.
If Cerrone is smart (and doesn't fall into the trap of being counter punched) he'll utilize his wrestling and work for the submission. IMO, that's the most realistic path to a Cowboy victory.
Disclaimer; would love to see Conor lose upon his "long awaited" return... I just don't see Cowboy besting him.
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12-18-2019, 04:19 PM
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hoping Cowboy wins
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12-18-2019, 04:38 PM
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Cowboy has a 1% chance of winning this. He's just a confidence boost for McGregor. Did you see how slow Cowboy was in his last fight??Plus he wilts under pressure, and a McGregor fight is next level. He will be defeated before he even steps in there, and then knocked out in round 1.
Hate that we have to wait like 3 months to even see this sh*t. Conor should be fighting a top contender at 155.
Hate that we have to wait like 3 months to even see this sh*t. Conor should be fighting a top contender at 155.
12-18-2019, 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted By lazerhead⏩
they cant risk conor losing at 155 before they can get him in 1 more title fight. so they put him in a bullchit fight in a different weight class, he wins, then goes back to 155 to fight for that belt where he prob loses again. lather rinse repeatConor should be fighting a top contender at 155.
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12-18-2019, 09:37 PM
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I'm a fan of both, but I think I'm rooting for Cowboy in this one. He's always been one of the most exciting fighters in the UFC. He's probably the underdog in this one though...might be slowing down a bit. Should be a great fight though!
12-18-2019, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted By scooterbrah⏩
Cowboy isn’t a tomato can, he could easily win this fight.they cant risk conor losing at 155 before they can get him in 1 more title fight. so they put him in a bullchit fight in a different weight class, he wins, then goes back to 155 to fight for that belt where he prob loses again. lather rinse repeat
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12-18-2019, 10:33 PM
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cowboys only shot is if he lands one of those nasty kicks to the dome..i can see it happening
this isnt really a high pressure fight for cowboy either....he is happy he gets his payday
this isnt really a high pressure fight for cowboy either....he is happy he gets his payday
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12-19-2019, 01:55 AM
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McGregor 1st round KO.
12-19-2019, 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted By cheerupemokid⏩
The odds are stacked against him. He's not a can but he's that gatekeeping role. Why at 170 though, Conor has no chance against usman or colby. Only thing that makes sense is cashing out with gamebred and Diaz 3. Then leaving the game for goodCowboy isn’t a tomato can, he could easily win this fight.
12-19-2019, 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted By lazerhead⏩
I keep hearing that people are thinking that Cowboy is a cake walk for Conor. Maybe i'm not seeing Cowboy in the same manner as others but that dude is a beast. Knockout power, precision striking, has insane leg kicks, and can submit anyone. and btw, doesn't Cerrone have the most wins in ufc history lol.Cowboy has a 1% chance of winning this. He's just a confidence boost for McGregor. Did you see how slow Cowboy was in his last fight??Plus he wilts under pressure, and a McGregor fight is next level. He will be defeated before he even steps in there, and then knocked out in round 1.
Hate that we have to wait like 3 months to even see this sh*t. Conor should be fighting a top contender at 155.
Hate that we have to wait like 3 months to even see this sh*t. Conor should be fighting a top contender at 155.
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12-19-2019, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted By mark2288⏩
McGregor is elite & Cowboy is a gatekeeper, that's the clear level difference. Cowboy will get Alvarez'd. He's too slow for Conor, that'll be obvious immediately. Plus Cowboy will be mentally defeated after the onslaught of chit talking, you could already see it before. Cowboy just wants to be friends with everyone, he's the type of guy to touch gloves mid fight. He never had the killer instinct to become a champ.I keep hearing that people are thinking that Cowboy is a cake walk for Conor. Maybe i'm not seeing Cowboy in the same manner as others but that dude is a beast. Knockout power, precision striking, has insane leg kicks, and can submit anyone. and btw, doesn't Cerrone have the most wins in ufc history lol.
12-19-2019, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted By mjisdead⏩
Cowboy isn't an easy fight for anyone. Cerrone just needs to fight smart and not partake in a straight up boxing match. If he's going to stand, he's gotta utilize his leg and body kicks to slow Conor down.easy fight for conor. but he wont get his respect back until he beats khabib
What he needs to do is put Conor on his back and control him there. With 17 career submissions, I have a hard time believing he couldn't pull of a submission victory against the likes of Conor (who has lost twice in the UFC; both times by submission).
You are right about Khabib, however. You can't talk that much smack and then get handled the way he did.
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12-19-2019, 05:36 PM
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If conor comes back with his usual mind games. he's going to break Cowboy before he even steps in the ring.. just look how flustered he was with Nate who was slapping him and **** talking during the fight...
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12-19-2019, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted By lazerhead⏩
The most winning fighter in UFC history with the most finishes = easy fight/tomato can to you?Yes, he is.
Yeah, he is getting older but the idea he is an easy fight is pure potato especially in light of his competition....
The idea that we know anything about C.M current skill level and or mental clarity of a fighter that’s been binging, can’t seem to get his game together, is constantly in trouble, has gotten toyed with and rag dolled in his last two fights AND will be coming back with a thick layer of ring rust is hilarious.
We have no idea what Conor has left....Will Conor probably win IF he can keep his marbles in his marble bag, yeah. Calling it an easy fight with Cowboys record/fight IQ/skill sets in alignment with his competition that can’t seem to keep it together, is goofy...
12-19-2019, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted By Scarrdbutsmartr⏩
please... Mayweather TKO'd him after Conor exhausted himself and Khabib basically Maia'd him. Neither of those losses saw him get "ragdolled."rag dolled his last two fights
And I'd stand by my statement and say that Cowboy is by far the easiest opponent he's had in 5 years. Let's not forget Conor put on a flawless clinic against the lineal champ at 155, his only loss at lightweight is against the #1 GOAT of the division. Cowboy isn't a true welterweight and he's in his twilight years. Also "most victories in the UFC" doesn't mean dick and you know it.
12-19-2019, 08:24 PM
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Hopefully Cowboy still has it in him...when he's on, he's competitive with anyone. Hopefully Conor's ****talking doesn't get in his head as much as Nate's did. That Stockton slap really ****s with your head!
12-19-2019, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted By lazerhead⏩
Mayweather toyed with him...Kabob legitimately took his soulplease... Mayweather TKO'd him after Conor exhausted himself and Khabib basically Maia'd him. Neither of those losses saw him get "ragdolled."
And I'd stand by my statement and say that Cowboy is the easiest opponent he's had in 5 years. Let's not forget Conor put on a flawless clinic against the lineal champ at 155, his only loss at lightweight is against the #1 GOAT of the division. Cowboy isn't a true welterweight and he's in his twilight years. Also "most victories in the UFC" doesn't mean dick and you know it.
And I'd stand by my statement and say that Cowboy is the easiest opponent he's had in 5 years. Let's not forget Conor put on a flawless clinic against the lineal champ at 155, his only loss at lightweight is against the #1 GOAT of the division. Cowboy isn't a true welterweight and he's in his twilight years. Also "most victories in the UFC" doesn't mean dick and you know it.
...and you are talking about a CM we haven’t seen in 3 years or so.
The toughest opponent CM has ever had, the one that constantly kick his a**, is the guy he sees in the mirror every day.
If you want to say Cowboys record doesnt mean d*** then I can make a strong argument that CM record doesn’t mean d*** at this point as well.
If your argument was prime time CM vs aging Cowboy, then yeah it would be a short show. If you are talking about the highly unpredictable CM of today vs Aging Cowboy that’s a much closer fight. It all depends if CM still has it and can keep it together...which is doubtful
Does anyone actually have confidence this fight will see the inside of the Octagon -I don’t...
12-20-2019, 06:00 AM
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Jesus Christ no one giving Cerrone a chance in hell can we say the following:
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On the Conor hype train
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I can understand this talk from casuals who have no idea who cowboy is but anyone who knows mma knows Cerrone and that he’s got a chance here
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I can understand this talk from casuals who have no idea who cowboy is but anyone who knows mma knows Cerrone and that he’s got a chance here
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Conor has better stand up. He has the necessary TDD to cancel out the take down attempts too. The big question is if he will gas like he did against Diaz at Welterweight. He is heavier now and he will be hitting a heavy cowboy. His left hand is not as strong at Welterweight as it was at Featherweight or Lightweight.
I’d like Conor to win simply because of the potential showdowns it gives us, but I am afraid this will come down to durability. He has not show us any indication that his gas tank has improved.
Conor will win the first 3 rounds and fade badly in the fourth. He gets submitted in the fifth.
I’d like Conor to win simply because of the potential showdowns it gives us, but I am afraid this will come down to durability. He has not show us any indication that his gas tank has improved.
Conor will win the first 3 rounds and fade badly in the fourth. He gets submitted in the fifth.
12-20-2019, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted By Deathstroke⏩
there it is. I was waiting for the obligatory condescension towards anyone favoring McGregor by branding them "McNuthuggers" (cringe) and casuals. Great non-argument you presented there, lots of fascinating insights. Yawn.Jesus Christ no one giving Cerrone a chance in hell can we say the following:
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On the Conor hype train
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I can understand this talk from casuals who have no idea who cowboy is but anyone who knows mma knows Cerrone and that he’s got a chance here
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I can understand this talk from casuals who have no idea who cowboy is but anyone who knows mma knows Cerrone and that he’s got a chance here
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FWIW I’m hoping Conor wins this one. I’m just trying to be realistic, not overlook cowboy, okay cowboy?
12-20-2019, 12:07 PM
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The only thing that MIGHT make it interesting is the weight class.
I'd expect Cerrone to fold after the first solid straight left if it was at 155.
If he can absorb the shots and get to the 3rd round, it could get pretty scary for Conor.
I'm still predicting an early Conor KO tho.
I'd expect Cerrone to fold after the first solid straight left if it was at 155.
If he can absorb the shots and get to the 3rd round, it could get pretty scary for Conor.
I'm still predicting an early Conor KO tho.
12-20-2019, 07:56 PM
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Cowboy just has to wrestle instead of standing with Conor...but knowing Cowboy, he'll probably want to test himself and try to make it more exciting by standing and trading. Cowboy's got good standup though so it'll still be competitive, but that's just playing to Conor's strengths...
12-21-2019, 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted By Gainzzz⏩
Conor will likely gas before a 3rd round happens3rd round, it could get pretty scary for Conor.
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12-21-2019, 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted By iloveus⏩
It's not like if he gasses then he will instantly lose to anyone, his level just dropssignificantly. That's why I said it could get scary. He usually has 2 good rounds in him.Conor will likely gas before a 3rd round happens
He went 5 rounds with Nate Diaz. And he won the 3rd vs Khabib.
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in a straight up standing fight, i don't see how cerrone wins this unless he catches conor with a kick. Cerrone fights way too stiff on the standup and is prone to getting hit a lot. I can see Conor using that reach of his to counter a high kick or something or throw a flurry of punches after Cerrone throws.
Cerrone I think will need to mix up alot of grappling and ground game for him to have a chance of winning. But Conor has decent grappling and TDD so that might be easier said than done. I think I have Conor winning this but if he loses to Cerrone time to pack it up son
Cerrone I think will need to mix up alot of grappling and ground game for him to have a chance of winning. But Conor has decent grappling and TDD so that might be easier said than done. I think I have Conor winning this but if he loses to Cerrone time to pack it up son
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