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10-21-2023, 02:17 PM
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That was how the first fight would have gone if Islam had proper rehydration time. The power difference in the clinch was just obvious.
That was a demolition. Don't even think volk got a single sig strike off
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That was a demolition. Don't even think volk got a single sig strike off
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Fck u james
10-21-2023, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted By Gringo12⏩
no... this was 100% techniqueThat was how the first fight would have gone if Islam had proper rehydration time. The power difference in the clinch was just obvious.
That was a demolition. Don't even think volk got a single sig strike off
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That was a demolition. Don't even think volk got a single sig strike off
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islam threw like 5 body kicks in the first minute. if u watch the first fight its what gave alex the most trouble, they obviously drilled it
alex went to block the body... got caught
10-21-2023, 02:19 PM
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-Usman proves he's a weight bully and would get destroyed by any top middleweight in the UFC. Guy picks on smaller guys his whole welterweight run and when he fight someone his size, he gets destroyed. Dude has 0 wrestling it's sad.
-Volk should have never took this fight. They should've just given the fight to gamrot, it probably would've been a better fight anyways.
- Stupid chit always happens when that Dagestani prick fights. Add that he's fighting Johnny Walker, we're bound to get a stupid outcome.
Honestly, this fight card was a disappointment.
-Volk should have never took this fight. They should've just given the fight to gamrot, it probably would've been a better fight anyways.
- Stupid chit always happens when that Dagestani prick fights. Add that he's fighting Johnny Walker, we're bound to get a stupid outcome.
Honestly, this fight card was a disappointment.
Fk the Good Poster Crew (Lockdev, Pink, Kimm, Wasps, Expatriot, Mulloway, Luc1fer, Smallpeter, gwg, Super Hercules, Bonobo, maori-rap, Based Bagel, ezmac31, Goobaa, Godfrd and many more). You know who you are.
10-21-2023, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted By taskmob⏩
29 yr old khamzat that's never had a 5 round fight in his entire career barely beats 36 yr old battered usman and u say this. lmao wtf? khamzat is the one that got exposed. overrated as ****-Usman proves he's a weight bully and would get destroyed by any top middleweight in the UFC. Guy picks on smaller guys his whole welterweight run and when he fight someone his size, he gets destroyed. Dude has 0 wrestling it's sad.
-Volk should have never took this fight. They should've just given the fight to gamrot, it probably would've been a better fight anyways.
- Stupid chit always happens when that Dagestani prick fights. Add that he's fighting Johnny Walker, we're bound to get a stupid outcome.
Honestly, this fight card was a disappointment.
-Volk should have never took this fight. They should've just given the fight to gamrot, it probably would've been a better fight anyways.
- Stupid chit always happens when that Dagestani prick fights. Add that he's fighting Johnny Walker, we're bound to get a stupid outcome.
Honestly, this fight card was a disappointment.
10-21-2023, 02:22 PM
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islam vs oliviera in brasil next
these russian guys can't get in the usa with visa issues so they have to make fights for them elsewhere
charles knew this and conveniently ducked knowing he'd still get it
these russian guys can't get in the usa with visa issues so they have to make fights for them elsewhere
charles knew this and conveniently ducked knowing he'd still get it
watchout your comments boyo ↓
10-21-2023, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted By ninetynine8⏩
Learn how to read. I said it was impressive how khamzat dominated a wrestler like usman on the ground. I wasnt even talking to you. You decided to reply with the dumbass leon comment.I said Usman has nothing off his BACK but has great SPRAWLS
and then you bring up 'hurrr khamzat had more control time'... Yeah, because he went for takedowns the entire fight dumb ****. like I said, way to miss the point you ****ing idiot.
and then you bring up 'hurrr khamzat had more control time'... Yeah, because he went for takedowns the entire fight dumb ****. like I said, way to miss the point you ****ing idiot.
Anyway fukk off
10-21-2023, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted By ninetynine8⏩
another clown take29 yr old khamzat that's never had a 5 round fight in his entire career barely beats 36 yr old battered usman and u say this. lmao wtf? khamzat is the one that got exposed. overrated as ****
khamzat broke his wrist in round 1, probably on the slam, would explain the pace slowdown.
usman is probably the hardest matchup khamzat can face. khamzat would wreck strickland.
watchout your comments boyo ↓
10-21-2023, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted By ninetynine8⏩
Wtf, Khamzat destroyed his àss lmao29 yr old khamzat that's never had a 5 round fight in his entire career barely beats 36 yr old battered usman and u say this. lmao wtf? khamzat is the one that got exposed. overrated as ****
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Originally Posted By MEDITATE⏩
Ah yeah. So much different then listening to the NBA and NFL preach about BLM and every organization shoving the rainbow flag down our throats.so every fukcing time one of these f@gg0ts gonna win they gonna preach about israel and palestine??? man fukc both of these people/countries.
and why tf would alex. accept this fight 1 week prior.... thats fukcing stupid
and why tf would alex. accept this fight 1 week prior.... thats fukcing stupid
Smooth brain.
10-21-2023, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted By goingcia⏩
i don't care if you weren't talking to me cuck, it's an open forumLearn how to read. I said it was impressive how khamzat dominated a wrestler like usman on the ground. I wasnt even talking to you. You decided to reply with the dumbass leon comment.
Anyway fukk off
Anyway fukk off
i was explaining to you (a casual) that usman has always been **** off his back, the impressive part were the takedowns like i said, not anything he did on the ground. In fact I'd say him not being able to submit when he had his back the entire fight is **** tier. Edwards was closer to submitting him.
Originally Posted By taskmob⏩
...Wtf, Khamzat destroyed his àss lmao
10-21-2023, 02:32 PM
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10-21-2023, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted By ninetynine8⏩
You said barely beat. No he clearly beat him. Sure it was competitive when Khamzat was dry humping his àsshole but other than that, the dude clearly lost. You're a fking moron.i don't care if you weren't talking to me cuck, it's an open forum
i was explaining to you (a casual) that usman has always been **** off his back, the impressive part were the takedowns like i said, not anything he did on the ground. In fact I'd say him not being able to submit when he had his back the entire fight is **** tier. Edwards was closer to submitting him.
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i was explaining to you (a casual) that usman has always been **** off his back, the impressive part were the takedowns like i said, not anything he did on the ground. In fact I'd say him not being able to submit when he had his back the entire fight is **** tier. Edwards was closer to submitting him.
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10-21-2023, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted By taskmob⏩
oh i get it now, you stopped watching after the first round lmfaoYou said barely beat. No he clearly beat him. Sure it was competitive when Khamzat was dry humping his àsshole but other than that, the dude clearly lost. You're a fking moron.
10-21-2023, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
1st round was clearly a 10-8. 3rd round was clearly a 10-9 for Khamzat. Round 2 is possibly arguable but it wasn't close, at all.He lost rounds 2 and 3 pretty clearly.
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Originally Posted By taskmob⏩
Some of you guys have the dumbest takes.-Usman proves he's a weight bully and would get destroyed by any top middleweight in the UFC. Guy picks on smaller guys his whole welterweight run and when he fight someone his size, he gets destroyed. Dude has 0 wrestling it's sad.
-Volk should have never took this fight. They should've just given the fight to gamrot, it probably would've been a better fight anyways.
- Stupid chit always happens when that Dagestani prick fights. Add that he's fighting Johnny Walker, we're bound to get a stupid outcome.
Honestly, this fight card was a disappointment.
-Volk should have never took this fight. They should've just given the fight to gamrot, it probably would've been a better fight anyways.
- Stupid chit always happens when that Dagestani prick fights. Add that he's fighting Johnny Walker, we're bound to get a stupid outcome.
Honestly, this fight card was a disappointment.
Usman did great. Khamzat is just a savage. Usmans on his way out. His knees are done and hes lost 3 in a row now.
Cant take away what hes done in his career though. Im no usman fan but hes one of the GOATS of his division.
10-21-2023, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted By ninetynine8⏩
Nah you just don't know the sport and know how to fight.oh i get it now, you stopped watching after the first round lmfao
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10-21-2023, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted By taskmob⏩
you. are. retardedRound 2 is possibly arguable but it wasn't close, at all.
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Originally Posted By taskmob⏩
Usman clearly did more damage in round 3, which means he should have won the round.1st round was clearly a 10-8. 3rd round was clearly a 10-9 for Khamzat. Round 2 is possibly arguable but it wasn't close, at all.
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Originally Posted By taskmob⏩
1st round was obviously one sided.1st round was clearly a 10-8. 3rd round was clearly a 10-9 for Khamzat. Round 2 is possibly arguable but it wasn't close, at all.
2nd and 3rd round was close. khamzat said he injured his hand at the end of round 1 though
10-21-2023, 03:29 PM
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UFC is going downhill. Back when Mcgregor had his title run, Jones/DC rivalry...those were much better days.
The Khamzat/Usman fight would have been so much better if it was 5 rounds. Ankalaev is a beast who needs a title shot. Mahkachev is a beast...Imagine Makhachev vs Khabib
The Khamzat/Usman fight would have been so much better if it was 5 rounds. Ankalaev is a beast who needs a title shot. Mahkachev is a beast...Imagine Makhachev vs Khabib
(these are my opinions i am not a licensed broker by trade)
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Originally Posted By ninetynine8⏩
Holy chit are you retarded. You chit yourself with the very first dumbass response and now you keep smearing it all over yourself the more you type. Once again, fukk off. You are literally unable to follow a convo thread.i don't care if you weren't talking to me cuck, it's an open forum
i was explaining to you (a casual) that usman has always been **** off his back, the impressive part were the takedowns like i said, not anything he did on the ground. In fact I'd say him not being able to submit when he had his back the entire fight is **** tier. Edwards was closer to submitting him.
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i was explaining to you (a casual) that usman has always been **** off his back, the impressive part were the takedowns like i said, not anything he did on the ground. In fact I'd say him not being able to submit when he had his back the entire fight is **** tier. Edwards was closer to submitting him.
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10-21-2023, 06:38 PM
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Wow. I hate khamzat and Marty fake newsman so I’m saying what I say as someone that wanted them both to get flatlined.
The first could ARGUABLY have been a 10-8 khamzat (at the minimum a 10-9)
Round 2 was a toss up, if round 2 went to usman it was because of the jab, straight and leg kick he landed (that was the ONLY talking point of that round)
Round 3, usman did….NOTHING…..as did cumshot khimaev.
I hate both, but to say usman won that as a whole is just completely wrong.
To say “khamzat not being able to submit him from his back, usman has always been chit on his back” is a pathetic take. What are you proving here? You’re proving someone in MMA isn’t proficient in ALL aspects of martial arts? Which is the name of what they’re doing? Retard take. Srs.
Barteh: in what UNIVERSE did khamzat “CLEARLY” lose round 2 and 3? (Don’t answer me, I know you have no reasoning for a CLEAR loss in rounds)
As said already I hoped for them both to flatline eachother because I hate both so it try to pull the “you’re a X fan”
The first could ARGUABLY have been a 10-8 khamzat (at the minimum a 10-9)
Round 2 was a toss up, if round 2 went to usman it was because of the jab, straight and leg kick he landed (that was the ONLY talking point of that round)
Round 3, usman did….NOTHING…..as did cumshot khimaev.
I hate both, but to say usman won that as a whole is just completely wrong.
To say “khamzat not being able to submit him from his back, usman has always been chit on his back” is a pathetic take. What are you proving here? You’re proving someone in MMA isn’t proficient in ALL aspects of martial arts? Which is the name of what they’re doing? Retard take. Srs.
Barteh: in what UNIVERSE did khamzat “CLEARLY” lose round 2 and 3? (Don’t answer me, I know you have no reasoning for a CLEAR loss in rounds)
As said already I hoped for them both to flatline eachother because I hate both so it try to pull the “you’re a X fan”
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Originally Posted By Austin317⏩
Scoring is based on damage. Usman slightly edged out on the damage in both rounds. He obviously won them by a small margin, but both were pretty clearly in his favour. The round winner can be clear in close rounds, These two things aren't exclusive.Wow. I hate khamzat and Marty fake newsman so I’m saying what I say as someone that wanted them both to get flatlined.
The first could ARGUABLY have been a 10-8 khamzat (at the minimum a 10-9)
Round 2 was a toss up, if round 2 went to usman it was because of the jab, straight and leg kick he landed (that was the ONLY talking point of that round)
Round 3, usman did….NOTHING…..as did cumshot khimaev.
I hate both, but to say usman won that as a whole is just completely wrong.
To say “khamzat not being able to submit him from his back, usman has always been chit on his back” is a pathetic take. What are you proving here? You’re proving someone in MMA isn’t proficient in ALL aspects of martial arts? Which is the name of what they’re doing? Retard take. Srs.
Barteh: in what UNIVERSE did khamzat “CLEARLY” lose round 2 and 3? (Don’t answer me, I know you have no reasoning for a CLEAR loss in rounds)
As said already I hoped for them both to flatline eachother because I hate both so it try to pull the “you’re a X fan”
The first could ARGUABLY have been a 10-8 khamzat (at the minimum a 10-9)
Round 2 was a toss up, if round 2 went to usman it was because of the jab, straight and leg kick he landed (that was the ONLY talking point of that round)
Round 3, usman did….NOTHING…..as did cumshot khimaev.
I hate both, but to say usman won that as a whole is just completely wrong.
To say “khamzat not being able to submit him from his back, usman has always been chit on his back” is a pathetic take. What are you proving here? You’re proving someone in MMA isn’t proficient in ALL aspects of martial arts? Which is the name of what they’re doing? Retard take. Srs.
Barteh: in what UNIVERSE did khamzat “CLEARLY” lose round 2 and 3? (Don’t answer me, I know you have no reasoning for a CLEAR loss in rounds)
As said already I hoped for them both to flatline eachother because I hate both so it try to pull the “you’re a X fan”
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
Do you see the problem with your statement?Scoring is based on damage.Usman slightly edged out on the damage in both rounds.He obviously won them by a small margin, but both were prettyclearly in his favour. The round winner can be clear in close rounds, These two things aren't exclusive.
Edit: like I said I wanted them both to lose by ko but come on…..
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Originally Posted By Austin317⏩
Not really, a small margin can be clear. In football a 1-0 score would never be a draw, or a point of discussion. One side won, by a small margin. In the end, judging will always be subjective, of course. But I think most people score it wrong because of their lack of knowledge about the rules and not because they disagree that Usman edged out on damage (the only relevant scoring criteria in this case).Do you see the problem with your statement?
When you see people mentioning the takedown in round 3 and take it into account for the scoring you know they have no clue what they're talking about.
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Originally Posted By Barteh⏩
That’s extremely vague.Not really, a small margin can be clear. In football a 1-0 score would never be a draw, or a point of discussion. One side won, by a small margin. In the end, judging will always be subjective, of course. But I think most people score it wrong because of their lack of knowledge about the rules and not because they disagree that Usman edged out on damage (the only relevant scoring criteria in this case).
When you see people mentioning the takedown in round 3 and take it into account for the scoring you know they have no clue what they're talking about.
When you see people mentioning the takedown in round 3 and take it into account for the scoring you know they have no clue what they're talking about.
Like I said multiple times I wanted both of them to lose, but to say “usman edged out” and “clearly in his favour” doesn’t make sense. It’s one or the other.
I’ll give it to you this way….
usman lost round 1…. 10-9
Usman won round 2 …10-9 (because he landed a jab, straight, leg kick)
Usman lost round 3 10-9 because he got taken down at the end and controlled
Usman STILL lost the fightIFfirst round was only 10-9 (which it was more than likely 10–8)
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Originally Posted By Austin317⏩
That's exactly where you're wrong and where your lack of knowledge about the rules shows. Getting taken down and controlled is not a relevant scoring criteria in this case. I'd recommend you go look up the rules and educate yourself a bit. Not saying that as a dig, but as legit advice. A lot of fans are simply unaware of the scoring criteria.That’s extremely vague.
Like I said multiple times I wanted both of them to lose, but to say “usman edged out” and “clearly in his favour” doesn’t make sense. It’s one or the other.
I’ll give it to you this way….
usman lost round 1…. 10-9
Usman won round 2 …10-9 (because he landed a jab, straight, leg kick)
Usman lost round 3 10-9because he got taken down at the end and controlled
Usman STILL lost the fightIFfirst round was only 10-9 (which it was more than likely 10–8)
Like I said multiple times I wanted both of them to lose, but to say “usman edged out” and “clearly in his favour” doesn’t make sense. It’s one or the other.
I’ll give it to you this way….
usman lost round 1…. 10-9
Usman won round 2 …10-9 (because he landed a jab, straight, leg kick)
Usman lost round 3 10-9because he got taken down at the end and controlled
Usman STILL lost the fightIFfirst round was only 10-9 (which it was more than likely 10–8)
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