He's a damn good fighter, no doubt. But calling him the goat is a joke. He's only defended his title three times.

Look at Anderson Silva, he was untouchable until he wasn't, and this was well after his third title defense. It might have been one extra fight that exposed Khabib.

He even missed weight in his last fight. They tried to cover it up and let him fight anyway. But the dude has to kill himself just to make weight and still can't do it. No wonder he retired. The story about his mom telling him not to fight might be real, but he only listened to her because of what I just said. He's not gonna move up and fight dudes like Usman and Khamzat, no way.

He beat everyone worth beating in his division and the division was pretty hot back then. There really wasnt anyone left to fight.

But I dont think he is the goat. He killed himself to make the weight and never tried himself against the guys he arguably should have been fighting. If that fight against gsp happened and he won, I’d give him goat.

He had a padded record, then beat a few top contenders. He undoubtedly proved himself as the best in the division but for how long? Not long at all.

3 title defense's, and for one of them he literally missed weight.

Even if he beat GSP he wouldn't be the goat, not even close. GSP was 40 years old at the time and he was begging for him to come down to lightweight, he wouldn't even settle on it being at 165.

You are entitled to your wrong opinion mane

ok, you make zero sense though. brb beating a 40 year old man that's never fought at 155 before makes you the goat

GOAT? no. Resume and longevity isn't deserving of that title.

But overall, over ratted? For the most part not really. He only lost one round in his UFC run.

You just said he isn't deserving of Goat, yet said he's not overrated... He's overrated because so many people think he is the goat

Khabib GOAT Nurmagomedov

Khabib was an extremely good fighter. Hecouldhave become a serious name in the GOAT debate but he left far too early (and in his prime). The reality is, he only had 2 fights against legit top tier competition. I don't count Conor because it's a documented fact that he was injured and a borderline alcoholic/drug addict by then.

Just because Islam dispatched Olives doesn't mean that Khabib would have. You never know what will happen in a fight, and that's the issue. That's why he can't be considered for GOAT. Chandler might have been a serious problem for Khabib. It's all about styles. We'll just never know.

Khabib was so much more fun to watch than Islam as well. His striking was not as good technically but he was just a lunatic and ran people down.

Overrated because he's nowhere near GOAT status, yes.

Still a fantastic fighter but 1, he barely fought anyone noteworthy (compare his resume to other GOAT contenders and Khabib's is laughable tbh) and 2, he would cut weight to near death just so he could have a huge size advantage over his opponents.

Had he fought 1 weight class above and dominated there, he'd have a serious shout for GOAT.

Agree, lots of good points in this thread. Minimal title defenses, gifted the belt vs iaquinta, beat a washed up mcgregor, poirier only real win, gaethje is great but his style is custom made to lose to khabib. spent 85% of his career crushing cans. Was on deaths door to make 155, missed weight a few times iirc.

A great fighter no doubt, but overrated.

The GOAT of any said activity needs longevity.

how is he supposed to become GREAT when anyone he beats gets relegated to bum status 😂 retroactively

bet you thought Gaethje had his number when the fight was made

bet you thought Conor was gonna knock him out in round one like all the conorsexuals

Prime Tony before knee injury would have ended him (dead fukin srs)

You spent a whole thread showing little grappling knowledge so I can’t take this take seriously


He’s not overrated. Also don’t think anyone has him as goat either when guys like bones and DJ defended their titles for so long.

People call him the goat all the time, usually by saying Jones cheated and the other people lost a fight. So you just don't know what you're talking about.

Also funny how you bring that up when in that same thread I actually predicted how the fight would go, you on the other hand didn't make any prediction just joined to complain about something you were wrong about anyway. Leave bud

There is always the hyperbole and recency bias in regards to GOAT talk. Khabib has an arguable (but incorrect) case based off being undefeated, retiring on top, and dominance with only losing one round. He is not who I would pick, since longevity and title defenses while at their prime mean more to me.

I however dont see a ton of people saying he is the GOAT. I see much more folks saying how Jon Jones, GSP, DJ, Silva, and Fedor are ahead of Khabib. I feel he is accurately described as an All Time Great.

Certainly dont see enough people saying he is the GOAT to warrant in any fashion him falling into the overrated category. Especially when there are even more overrated fighters such as Conor, Nate, Tony, etc.

Conor isn't actually overrated anymore. He definitely used to be. But now most people except for the very extreme fanboys just see him as a great striker. His losses to Dustin cemented this

disagree

you never saw Khabib in trouble once. he DOMINATED every single person he fought. people felt accomplished if they felt like they won a round from the guy. he trained his whole life with a super strict father who is one of the greatest trainers of all time (look how many students he has in his small village that are successful). he even coached his best friend to his own lightweight championship belt in the UFC. his cousin is the Bellator champ.

i was pissed when he left too. his father/coach/mentor/inspiration had just tragically died. he lost all motivation. nobody ever steps away at their peak and even turns down $100m to box floyd... but he did. he promised his mother he wouldn't fight again after Gaethje. Can't hate the guy for being one of the few in the world who actually promises something and ACTUALLY DOES IT. but saying he is overrated is too much. he defended his title against top tier contenders too. he fukin beat gaethje with a broken foot. didn't say a word. still made weight. nobody has dominated the guy ever. not even in training. he spars with fukkin ppl way bigger than him too...

i must say that resume wise you have to give Jon Jones the GOAT title. RESUME wise. but he can't claim that he was never in ANY TROUBLE like Khabib can. Khabib has not even been cut or bruised in any of his fights... Jon squeaked by Reyes, Santos, Gustaffson and so forth...

DOMINANCE = KHABIB
RESUME = JONES (but can't claim he dominated every round like Khabib. and wasn't cut open. or bruised.)

I addressed this point, Khabib only has 3 title defenses which is why he's so unblemished. Bro, Jones looked like he could never be beaten even after 3 title defenses. He was doing things people hadn't even seen before. Gustafson was his 10th title defense to put things into perspective

One of the best but far from GOAT status. GSP is GOAT but Jon Jones could be if he didn't get popped for PED multiple times.

Khabib has like 3 or 4 top 5 wins in his entire career. Putting him in your top 10 or even top 20 in a GOAT list is absolutely ridiculous.

"Look, Khabib is a rat, a coward. He knew I was coming for him, and that's why he ran away from the fight game. He knew he couldn't handle me, so he took the easy way out. I'm the king of this

sport, and Khabib will always be known as the guy who ran

away from the fight. He's a quitter, a chicken, and I'm glad he's gone. I would have destroyed him in the rematch, and he knew it. Now, he's off chasing goats in the mountains or whatever he's

doing. Good riddance, I say. The fight game is better off without him."

Can never agree with GSP being goat. Maybe the goat of decisions and GOATs don't lose 2 times. JBJ is the picogoat.

My thoughts exactly. Only thing I'll add is that Khabib's title defenses were exclusively against strikers who get mauled on the ground. Conor, Poirier, Gaethje, all known for their punches, which makes Khabib's record even less impressive.

Dude consistently missed weight and pulled out of fights. Tony had every right to be pissed when Khabib used the COVID excuse to pull out of the 5th one, when clearly he just couldn't sweat enough sh*t out of his system before he had to step on a scale.

And yeah, being terrified of moving up to the welterweight (where he naturally belongs) because he'll have to face a tougher guys like Usman and Covington who are not going to be punked around by his hug-my-opponent tactics.

Conor over Khabib? Surely you jest.

gsp redeemed his only losses, Jones on the other hand hasn't redeemed his loss against Reyes. BTW Jones is the goat for me but not because of that reason

And GSP was on the juice too lets be real

This response shows why you shouldn’t make threads like this. GSP’s last fight was Bisping, which he won 4 months before khabib got the belt. Also gsp is 41 now. I was talking about khabib moving up to fight him at 175 too.

the only reason GSP took that fight was because he knew Bisping was a weak champion. Can you imagine Bisping vs any of the top 5 middleweights lmao


the fact you said khabib would be the goat for beating an out of prime GSP proves you're retarded and need to stop deflecting onto others. I also noticed you were in the ufc 284 thread but didn't make a single prediction. Typical casual that will comment about how little someone knows with nothing but postfight commentary to show for it

'acktually gsp is 41 now'

lmao, good one bro, you got me. Go back to eggball cuck

that's what i'm thinking lmao.

It's actually weird how people aren't bringing this up, he LITERALLY can't make weight in his division. It's ridiculous. As much hate as Conor gets he never missed weight once even when he looked like a skeleton, then he went up multiple weight classes.