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post 1578634331 04-23-2019, 07:03 AM
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Why do so many people do the minimum at jobs these days?

Its like nobody wants to work at all and just abuse the system. Brb eating snacks every 2 hours and taking 20 breaks per day. Brb only working 2 hours. Yet they never get in trouble for it.
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post 1578634651 04-23-2019, 07:08 AM
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Many companies have made it clear that hard work won’t be rewarded with more pay or a better position. In fact, it often gets you more work and responsibilities for the same pay. Why stand out from the herd then?

The last big raise I got was because the company found out I was going to get an outside offer and they matched it, not a reward for my good work.
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My assumption is because your wage packet won't be increased by 50% if you're 50% more productive. However your wage packet will remain the same if you're 25% less productive.
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post 1578634881 04-23-2019, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
Its like nobody wants to work at all and just abuse the system.
Answered your own question with the first line.

Lmao if you think anyone WANTS to work, people just want a roof over their head and food on the table.

OP must be one of those brahs that always goes above and beyond while middle management dangles a promotion thats never going to come just to get him to bust his balls for the company line
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post 1578635061 04-23-2019, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted By Voluspa⏩
Answered your own question with the first line.

Lmao if you think anyone WANTS to work, people just want a roof over their head and food on the table.

OP must be one of those brahs that always goes above and beyond while middle management dangles a promotion thats never going to come just to get him to bust his balls for the company line
If you're a man you should work. Show some respect to your coworkers who are working. Cant respect a man who doesnt work.
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post 1578635211 04-23-2019, 07:18 AM
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As the old Soviet Joke goes "So long as the bosses pretend to pay us, we will pretend to work"

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post 1578635271 04-23-2019, 07:19 AM
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post 1578635341 04-23-2019, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted By hotsaucebrah⏩
As the old Soviet Joke goes "So long as the bosses pretend to pay us, we will pretend to work"

You get what you pay for.
How did that mentality work out for them?
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
If you're a man you should work. Show some respect to your coworkers who are working. Cant respect a man who doesnt work.
Those same coworkers would sell you out in a second if their job was on the line.

Very few companies show loyalty and reward good employees for performance. They are happy to milk every ounce of work out of them while giving them a measlie 2% raise a year (if lucky) I'm pretty fortunate that I have a good boss, but the company sucks. I was taken on as a contract employee in 2013 with the promise of permanent hire in 6 months to a year. Here I am in 2019 and I'm still contracted despite everything I did in the beginning.

So my loyalty has not been rewarded and I'm only still here due to the salary and proximity to home.
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post 1578635561 04-23-2019, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
If you're a man you should work. Show some respect to your coworkers who are working. Cant respect a man who doesnt work.
Strong COPE

Enjoy busting your ass for a job that would replace you tomorrow brah. Nothing 'if youre a man' or respect worthy about that
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lmao at how naive op is.
post 1578635671 04-23-2019, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333⏩
Those same coworkers would sell you out in a second if their job was on the line.

Very few companies show loyalty and reward good employees for performance. They are happy to milk every ounce of work out of them while giving them a measlie 2% raise a year (if lucky) I'm pretty fortunate that I have a good boss, but the company sucks. I was taken on as a contract employee in 2013 with the promise of permanent hire in 6 months to a year. Here I am in 2019 and I'm still contracted despite everything I did in the beginning.

So my loyalty has not been rewarded and I'm only still here due to the salary and proximity to home.
LOL at people who show loyalty to any employer. they dont give af about you. they will fire you on the spot for no reason at all with no hesitation. This has never happened to me but just saying. if you change employers every year and keep making yourself more valuable and learning more, then you will make 25-35%+ increases to your salary compared to the 3% yearly if you stay at the same place.
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Combination of they can get away with it and they’re probably not working in something they’re actually passionate about.

I slack off too if my agenda for the day is full of busy bureaucratic tasks. Thankfully that doesn’t happen too often.
They said she's gone too far this time

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post 1578635701 04-23-2019, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted By JUGGERNAUT1333⏩
Those same coworkers would sell you out in a second if their job was on the line.

Very few companies show loyalty and reward good employees for performance. They are happy to milk every ounce of work out of them while giving them a measlie 2% raise a year (if lucky) I'm pretty fortunate that I have a good boss, but the company sucks. I was taken on as a contract employee in 2013 with the promise of permanent hire in 6 months to a year. Here I am in 2019 and I'm still contracted despite everything I did in the beginning.

So my loyalty has not been rewarded and I'm only still here due to the salary and proximity to home.
Originally Posted By Voluspa⏩
Strong COPE

Enjoy busting your ass for a job that would replace you tomorrow brah. Nothing 'if youre a man' or respect worthy about that
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post 1578635771 04-23-2019, 07:27 AM
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putting in maximum effort to enrich some other guy... no thx jeff
post 1578635811 04-23-2019, 07:28 AM
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Imagine if there were no minimum wagers.

Yep, there would be no ceo10k/day crew.
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post 1578635901 04-23-2019, 07:31 AM
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My generation (millenials, and a good portion of Gen X'ers for that matter) were sold the lie that genuine hard work, high quality skills, and putting your mind to accomplishing things/getting somewhere in your career were all that mattered, or at least what mattered the most. The education system and society as a whole constantly assured of us of this. What most of us realized in adulthood is that that was a huge load of crap. 95% of the time, what gets people things like promotions, or even simply preferrential work assignments/placements, has absolutely nothing to do with any of that.

It's all about who you know and who you blow, with very little exception. Some people are able to embrace that and not let it bother them, but many people simply have their souls and ambitions crushed by it. Hell, being a crappy worker is often rewarded. It's hard to give much of a shiit beyond "the minimum" when you spend years upon years being a top 5% all around worker. Meanwhile, some retards routinely take a few paid months off over bs injuries, get cake placements/assignments at work because they're crybabies and/or are simply incapable of anything else, call in sick constantly, etc. Yet nothing happens to most of them for any of it, and some are even promoted by claiming various bs cards.



Edit: On a side note, as alluded to by a couple other here - not only does putting in maximum effort at a work place seldom yield appropriate rewards in and of itself, but it raises the bar of expectations for you personally just to keep your job. Once you've established yourself as a great reliable worker who will do any given task with superior quality without complaint, that's what becomes expected of you as the minimum. Meanwhile, people who establish themselves as worthless shiitbags from the start but manage not to get canned have their expectations reflect such.
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That's funny coming from you, because you do the bare minimum (actually you do nothing at all) to improve your life situation and just complain how unfair things are.
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
If you're a man you should work. Show some respect to your coworkers who are working. Cant respect a man who doesnt work.


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Ive never seen a company that hasnt chit on at least one valuable long time employee like nothing and replaced them like a roll of toilet paper.

Just lol at try-hards at work. Youll get dropped like nothing in a second.
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Originally Posted By CommonPheasant⏩
Many companies have made it clear that hard work won’t be rewarded with more pay or a better position. In fact, it often gets you more work and responsibilities for the same pay. Why stand out from the herd then?

The last big raise I got was because the company found out I was going to get an outside offer and they matched it, not a reward for my good work.
This right here exactly. The ass kissing is what gets you the promotions here, not the hard work. Why bother?
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
If you're a man you should work. Show some respect to your coworkers who are working. Cant respect a man who doesnt work.
I agree with you in the sense that it is not honorable to let others do your work just because they care more about keeping their job. But in general, the notion that it is ‚honorable’ to work your ass off for whatever you get payed only benefits one man, the company‘s owner. Being an employee is a business contract, not some weird emotional relationship. You will never get payed what you are worth for the company, ever. Never feel sorry for your employer. This is coming from a former employer BTW.
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Originally Posted By wave_length⏩
I agree with you in the sense that it is not honorable to let others do your work just because they care more about keeping their job. But in general, the notion that it is ‚honorable’ to work your ass off for whatever you get payed only benefits one man, the company‘s owner. Being an employee is a business contract, not some weird emotional relationship. You will never get payed what you are worth for the company, ever. Never feel sorry for your employer. This is coming from a former employer BTW.
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Employer Loyalty to Employee = None

Cliffs:

- Worked at company for 8.5 years
- Had three positions there (two in one department, interviewed for second job, not promoted)
- Third job was also interview for new department, promoted three years into this job (fought hard for it)
- Had 5-6 interview for other jobs in other departments (got none)
- Applied for internal dept job, wasn't given interview
- Had to leave to get a new job

Why should anyone stay for that nonsense?
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
If you're a man you should work. Show some respect to your coworkers who are working. Cant respect a man who doesnt work.
Sounds like you've been brainwashed.
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Highly recommend reading that. It's super, super long though. I found it probably 7 years ago or so, and I come back and read it every other year.

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Because they don't realize it's the ones who stand out in a productive and positive way that actually grow the fastest and get the special treatment from direct (or even indirect) leadership and other departments.

The ones who "do the minimum" at work tend to have a victimization attitude, come from a non-humble background, dislike the job as whole, potentially don't view the job as an applicable part of their career (IE not giving a chit about working at McDonalds because you're building your career around IT), or are already on their way out. Also nepotism (including publicly unknown nepotism) is a real thing.
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Originally Posted By DCutch⏩
That's funny coming from you, because you do the bare minimum (actually you do nothing at all) to improve your life situation and just complain how unfair things are.
Must be why he's an expert on the subject - in particular blaming the world around him and refusing to take personal responsibility.
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