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Me too.
I second any converging lever/machine press if you aren’t competing in powerlifting.
I second any converging lever/machine press if you aren’t competing in powerlifting.
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07-31-2020, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted By BeginnerGainz⏩
I'm just trying to find out If I'm missing out on anything by doing this instead of benchMe too.
I second any converging lever/machine press if you aren’t competing in powerlifting.
I second any converging lever/machine press if you aren’t competing in powerlifting.
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It has its purpose, but becomes limiting.
I only use it with cluster sets.
I only use it with cluster sets.
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Originally Posted By steve447⏩
You would get worse at barbell benching. Your overall total pressing strength might decline slightly.What would happen If I ditched barbell bench completely for hammer strength incline press
Your chest mass would stay the same or hypertrophy if you continued to apply progressive overload.
07-31-2020, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted By whitedoor⏩
I think I'll stick with hammer strength incline press then cuz I only care about getting bigger I could care less about how much I benchYou would get worse at barbell benching. Your overall total pressing strength might decline slightly.
Your chest mass would stay the same or hypertrophy if you continued to apply progressive overload.
Your chest mass would stay the same or hypertrophy if you continued to apply progressive overload.
07-31-2020, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted By whitedoor⏩
Less beating up your shoulders too.You would get worse at barbell benching. Your overall total pressing strength might decline slightly.
Your chest mass would stay the same or hypertrophy if you continued to apply progressive overload.
Your chest mass would stay the same or hypertrophy if you continued to apply progressive overload.
07-31-2020, 06:58 PM
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Op a lot of people prefer them and honestly if you can get a better workout, better pump, and reduce injury, I'd say go for it
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Originally Posted By FrankGrimes29⏩
This, but I have gnarly shoulders and I enjoy inclining. Personal preference boyoIt has its purpose, but becomes limiting.
I only use it with cluster sets.
I only use it with cluster sets.
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Originally Posted By steve447⏩
Fair enough keep hammer pressing then, would also suggest the hammer strength lat pulldown/row hybrid if you're of that mindsight, also great for hypertrophy.I think I'll stick with hammer strength incline press then cuz I only care about getting bigger I could care less about how much I bench
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Originally Posted By steve447⏩
I mean it may be partially true but as brah above said if you care about your actually incline numbers then it may be a problem. Just remember to reduce injuryI was just hesitant to change from bench to hammers strength incline press cuz a lot of things I have read talk about how machines are chit and how free weights are so much better cuz of your stabilizers
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07-31-2020, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted By steve447⏩
I love lifting and talking about lifting dude. Srs. And I am an incline champ. It's one of the only things I'm good at.u seem more positive in this thread
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07-31-2020, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted By whitedoor⏩
I love hammer strength stuff when I'm really trying to force blood into the muscle boyo. Dat pump hnnngggggFair enough keep hammer pressing then, would also suggest the hammer strength lat pulldown/row hybrid if you're of that mindsight, also great for hypertrophy.
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Originally Posted By Motiviert⏩
Yup. I never incline barbell anymore. I switch between hammer press incline for cluster sets, and dumbbell work for incline. Shoulders are way healthier at this point.This, but I have gnarly shoulders and I enjoy inclining. Personal preference boyo
07-31-2020, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted By Motiviert⏩
I don't lift for numbers I lift for muscle growthI mean it may be partially true but as brah above said if you care about your actually incline numbers then it may be a problem. Just remember to reduce injury
07-31-2020, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted By steve447⏩
Roger that, hammer strength is fine boyo. Take care of those shoulders.I don't lift for numbers I lift for muscle growth
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For getting bigger pecs, go with the hammer strength. Gets that better squeeze. DB benchpress is also a better chest builder than barbell bench.
Barbell benchpress is by far a better exercise for shoulders and triceps than chest.
Barbell benchpress is by far a better exercise for shoulders and triceps than chest.
You would be surprised just how much time I have to waste.
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Originally Posted By Motiviert⏩
I'm someone who largely focuses on the bread and butter lifts but still, big fan of hammer strength machines.I love hammer strength stuff when I'm really trying to force blood into the muscle boyo. Dat pump hnnnggggg
I genuinely believe someone could reach a competitive level at bodybuilding (not weight lifting obviously) just using their plate loaded machines, by far the best on the market.
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Originally Posted By whitedoor⏩
Agreed 100000%. If you're eating perfectly, hell you can use anythingI'm someone who largely focuses on the bread and butter lifts but still, big fan of hammer strength machines.
I genuinely believe someone could reach a competitive level at bodybuilding (not weight lifting obviously) just using their plate loaded machines, by far the best on the market.
I genuinely believe someone could reach a competitive level at bodybuilding (not weight lifting obviously) just using their plate loaded machines, by far the best on the market.
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Originally Posted By steve447⏩
You wouldn't be able to bench press as much weight over time. There are a lot of great bodybuilders that don't do barbell bench press. Its not a necessary movement.What would happen If I ditched barbell bench completely for hammer strength incline press
Originally Posted By steve447⏩
That's a common argument over free weights VS machines but if your not an athlete or a power-lifter I'd question what do you actually 'lose' when switching over. You'll still be stronger then the majority of the population. You'll still have a stronger bench press then the majority of the population. Your less likely to get injured and you'll save your joints from unnecessary wear. Etc.I was just hesitant to change from bench to hammers strength incline press cuz a lot of things I have read talk about how machines are chit and how free weights are so much better cuz of your stabilizers
When it comes to raw strenth/power/athleticism its hard to argue against free weights. But if you know the basic movements. Have some muscle. And continue to progressively overload on machines and cables. You can still make great gains with much less wear and tear on your body and risk of injury.
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Good accessory but not to replace bench, I prefer incline anyways but bench recruits more muscles. I just don't see the point in going all machine/cable unless you already have an incredible physique and are just maintaining.
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07-31-2020, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted By cannonballdooky⏩
Less chance of injury and bench has never really done anything for meGood accessory but not to replace bench, I prefer incline anyways but bench recruits more muscles. I just don't see the point in going all machine/cable unless you already have an incredible physique and are just maintaining.
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