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Ritual Seppuku - to die with honor.

You bros aware of this ancient Japanese way to die with honor after being shamed? Not sure why I thought of it today, but thought some of you may find it interesting.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku

Seppuku (Japanese: 切腹, "cutting [the] belly"), sometimes referred to as harakiri (腹切り, "abdomen/belly cutting", a native Japanese kun reading), is a form of Japanese ritual suicide by disembowelment. It was originally reserved for samurai in their code of honor but was also practiced by other Japanese people later on[clarification needed] to restore honor for themselves or for their families. As a samurai practice, seppuku was used voluntarily by samurai to die with honor rather than fall into the hands of their enemies (and likely be tortured), as a form of capital punishment for samurai who had committed serious offenses, or performed because they had brought shame to themselves. The ceremonial disembowelment, which is usually part of a more elaborate ritual and performed in front of spectators, consists of plunging a short blade, traditionally a tantō, into the belly and drawing the blade from left to right, slicing the belly open.[1] If the cut is deep enough, it can sever the descending aorta, causing a rapid death by blood loss.

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It wasn't a solo ritual tho, you had your bestman behind you who was usually the sword master and he would decaptitate you after slicing your belly. There's areally cool 60s japanese movie about that recently got a remake




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Makes me think of this book I read in college.

Highly recommend.

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Originally Posted By suave2000⏩
It wasn't a solo ritual tho, you had your bestman behind you who was usually the sword master and he would decaptitate you after slicing your belly. There's areally cool 60s japanese movie about that recently got a remake




Originally Posted By atceric⏩
Makes me think of this book I read in college.

Highly recommend.

perhaps my subtle troll of Trump supports wasn't apparent enough.
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Aware for sure. An honorable exit from this world used to be respected in the West too, see Rome.

Edit: I see what you did there, OP.. Good one.
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Originally Posted By HYDRAE⏩
perhaps my subtle troll of Trump supports wasn't apparent enough.
Looking like more than half the voting population wants him to preside over the country. Hardly a reason for any shame at all.
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Originally Posted By BredRoller⏩
Aware for sure. An honorable exit from this world used to be respected in the West too, see Rome.

Edit: I see what you did there, OP.. Good one.
Thank you, thank you. I takes great skill to educate and troll at the same time.
Originally Posted By Hutrapper⏩
Looking like more than half the voting population wants him to preside over the country. Hardly a reason for any shame at all.
Yes, but it was also performed to die with honor rather than fall into the hands of their enemies.
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Originally Posted By HYDRAE⏩
Thank you, thank you. I takes great skill to educate and troll at the same time.



Yes, but it was also performed to die with honor rather than fall into the hands of their enemies.
Cant give up honor if you never admit defeat lol
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Originally Posted By HYDRAE⏩
You bros aware of this ancient Japanese way to die with honor after being shamed? Not sure why I thought of it today, but thought some of you may find it interesting.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seppuku

Seppuku (Japanese: 切腹, "cutting [the] belly"), sometimes referred to as harakiri (腹切り, "abdomen/belly cutting", a native Japanese kun reading), is a form of Japanese ritual suicide by disembowelment. It was originally reserved for samurai in their code of honor but was also practiced by other Japanese people later on[clarification needed] to restore honor for themselves or for their families. As a samurai practice, seppuku was used voluntarily by samurai to die with honor rather than fall into the hands of their enemies (and likely be tortured), as a form of capital punishment for samurai who had committed serious offenses, or performed because they had brought shame to themselves. The ceremonial disembowelment, which is usually part of a more elaborate ritual and performed in front of spectators, consists of plunging a short blade, traditionally a tantō, into the belly and drawing the blade from left to right, slicing the belly open.[1] If the cut is deep enough, it can sever the descending aorta, causing a rapid death by blood loss.

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Originally Posted By HYDRAE⏩
Yes, but it was also performed to die with honor rather than fall into the hands of their enemies.
Why would anyone be scared to fall into the hands of democrats? Last I checked democrats get triggered and **** their pants at the site of a Trump flag.
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Originally Posted By Vexidi⏩
Why would anyone be scared to fall into the hands of democrats? Last I checked democrats get triggered and **** their pants at the site of a Trump flag.
Its not performed out of fright, but because it is the honorable thing to do.
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Originally Posted By Hutrapper⏩
Cant give up honor if you never admit defeat lol
LOL - a little too on the nose broseph
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Originally Posted By HYDRAE⏩
perhaps my subtle troll of Trump supports wasn't apparent enough.
Was aware.


The book was worth remembering though. Thanks for reminding me its on my shelf.
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I think ritual suicide implies that what happened is irredeemable, and personally, I think that's a little bit less badass than sad.

Of course, it's certainly a badass thing to do in protest, because it implies that you feel so strongly about XYZ that you'd rather die than see it. It's a very bold statement, but one that is unnecessary unless in very extreme events.

I generally don't like the idea of ritual suicide. Personally, I do see it as more of an escape than a redemption. I suppose, however, Seppuku is particularly greusome in that you do not die when you gut yourself. You instead, inflict a great amount of pain upon yourself prior to dying. Somehow that does change things somewhat, but I still feel as though it is an escape from the situation you deem shameful, instead of redemption.
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Jesus did this for us, op.
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You're not thinking about this because of the election, right, OP?
Nah, fukk that. I’m not doing that.
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Originally Posted By TypeNirvash⏩
I think ritual suicide implies that what happened is irredeemable, and personally, I think that's a little bit less badass than sad.

Of course, it's certainly a badass thing to do in protest, because it implies that you feel so strongly about XYZ that you'd rather die than see it. It's a very bold statement, but one that is unnecessary unless in very extreme events.

I generally don't like the idea of ritual suicide. Personally, I do see it as more of an escape than a redemption. I suppose, however, Seppuku is particularly greusome in that you do not die when you gut yourself. You instead, inflict a great amount of pain upon yourself prior to dying. Somehow that does change things somewhat, but I still feel as though it is an escape from the situation you deem shameful, instead of redemption.
I don't see the honor in willingly submitting your life to your enemy. You should force them to take it and die fighting.
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Originally Posted By Vexidi⏩
I don't see the honor in willingly submitting your life to your enemy. You should force them to take it and die fighting.
A warriors death has always been the most honorable death. Devoting one's entire life to a cause has always been glorious.

The death of Benkei is probably my favorite historical death, in terms of how glorious it was.
In the end, Benkei and Yo****sune were encircled in the castle of Koromogawa no tate. As Yo****sune retired to the inner keep of the castle to commit ritual suicide (seppuku) on his own, Benkei stood guard on the bridge in front of the main gate to protect Yo****sune. It is said that the soldiers were afraid to cross the bridge to confront him, and all that did met swift death at the hands of the gigantic man, who killed in excess of 300 trained soldiers.

Realizing that close combat would mean suicide, the warriors following Minamoto no Yoritomo decided to shoot and kill Benkei with arrows instead. Long after the battle should have been over, the soldiers noticed that the arrow-riddled, wound-covered Benkei was still standing. When the soldiers dared to cross the bridge and take a closer look, the giant man fell to the ground, having died standing upright.[7] This is known as the "Standing Death of Benkei" (弁慶の立往生, Benkei no Tachi Ōjō). Benkei died at the age of 34.
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I always found the "discipline" for lack of a better word to move the blade back and forth after stabbing yourself. Imagine the, pun intended here, intestinal fortitude to do that?
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The last samurai features a scene, dealing with seppuku.
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this is a more hardcore way to die, IMO:



They say he never moved a muscle, and his heart remained intact after he turned to ashes
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Originally Posted By Crazy_Desi⏩
this is a more hardcore way to die, IMO:



They say he never moved a muscle, and his heart remained intact after he turned to ashes
Ya, hell with these blm fukkers.

Those guys knew how to fukin protest.
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There's no honor in suicide lol
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Originally Posted By Hutrapper⏩
Ya, hell with these blm fukkers.

Those guys knew how to fukin protest.
Video gives me chills:

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Imagine if Trump called one final press conference and committed sudoku live on TV. That would actually be metal. They'd talk about him for 100 years.
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Originally Posted By Crazy_Desi⏩
Video gives me chills]
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Originally Posted By atceric⏩
Makes me think of this book I read in college.

Highly recommend.

A GOAT book. You should also read Tai Pan, King Rat and then Nobel House. You can skip the last book in the series. Apparently he literally lost his mind during writing it.
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Originally Posted By lsiberian⏩
A GOAT book. You should also read Tai Pan, King Rat and then Nobel House. You can skip the last book in the series. Apparently he literally lost his mind during writing it.
Fuk yeah man. I haven't touched his other stuff, but always wanted to.


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