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post 1622677951 11-15-2020, 07:08 AM
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I’ve applied for several graduate programs Misc (dear diary)

Starting somewhere in Spring.

I narrowed it down to three programs that offer what I’m looking for. Without being too specific, two of them are MA in History and another is a MA Education program.

If they all three accept my application, then I have a decision to make.

Currently I teach elementary students. I have a license to teach K-12, and I love it, but I just don’t see myself doing that in 10 years or 20 years for practical reasons. My current plan is to stay in school for the next five years, earn a doctorate in history, and continue my teaching career teaching history to community college students.

Just thought you should know Misc.

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-OP applied to graduate school
-Want to teach post-secondary students one day
-inb4 no STEM no care
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post 1622677981 11-15-2020, 07:10 AM
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Good for you. No sarcasm.
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post 1622678061 11-15-2020, 07:12 AM
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Good luck op. I wish you the best. Srs.
post 1622678081 11-15-2020, 07:12 AM
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I went to Columbia State Community College back in the early 90's, and it was a much better school with much better teachers than MTSU ever was, which is where I went next. Smaller classes and more office hours for the teachers, too.
post 1622678311 11-15-2020, 07:16 AM
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How long is the program, how many credits per semester, how much will you be spending in tuition in total?

How much will your yearly earning potential increase as a result of the extra degree?
post 1622678721 11-15-2020, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted By KAPAT⏩
How long is the program, how many credits per semester, how much will you be spending in tuition in total?

How much will your yearly earning potential increase as a result of the extra degree?
30-36 credit hours, depending on options like thesis or non-thesis options.

Tuition ranges between the programs from about $11,500-18,000.

In the county I’m in now, the pay increase averages out to about an additional $5,000/year.
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post 1622678851 11-15-2020, 07:27 AM
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Originally Posted By MiscMathematician⏩
for CC you dont typically need a doctorate. get MA, and pursue phd while employed -- its an additional 40ish credits and a dissertation; doable before your final tenure but doesn't really matter. this way you maximize your cash flow and get to experience the career you think you want. my college gives an extra $1k to phds per semester i think. big whoop, but depends on your contract.
There just happens to be a CC 20 minutes down the road that I went to for my first two years, and I like it there.

But I’m not limiting myself to that.

Also the doctorate would be a big pay increase if I decided to stay in (or come back to) the K-12 world.
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post 1622678991 11-15-2020, 07:30 AM
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Best of luck.

What sort of history do you want to teach?
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Mirin hard OP. I love history, honestly in retrospect I wish I had studied that instead. I just phucking hate academia with a flaming passion so I didn't want to be a professional historian and/or work at a uni.

I am likewise mirin your decision to teach at a community college, I did a year and a half in CC before uni. Best years of my educational life ded srs, coolest professors, coolest classes, most engaging, most interesting, profs actual gave a phuck and didn't just hop in for their weekly lecture and leave without taking questions etc.

The list goes on forever.

What area of history are you planning on focusing on and all that good stuff?

STEMcel btw, lol @ us srs.
post 1622679241 11-15-2020, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted By TomWanks⏩
Mirin hard OP. I love history, honestly in retrospect I wish I had studied that instead. I just phucking hate academia with a flaming passion so I didn't want to be a professional historian and/or work at a uni. I am likewise mirin your decision to teach at a community college, I did a year and a half in CC before uni. Best years of my educational life ded srs, coolest professors, coolest classes, most engaging, most interesting, profs actual gave a phuck and didn't just hop in for their weekly lecture and leave without taking questions etc.

The list goes on forever.

What area of history are you planning on focusing on and all that good stuff?

STEMcel btw, lol @ us srs.
Thanks and I had the exact same experience at CC. In fact, that was part of my reasoning in personal statement for my application.

American history is the focus.
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post 1622679331 11-15-2020, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden⏩
Thanks and I had the exact same experience at CC. In fact, that was part of my reasoning in personal statement for my application.

American history is the focus.
Damn brah pepper your angus. I imagine that dept is going to be a woke nightmare these days.

Prolly gonna have to preface your thesis by apologizing for your privilege and acknowledging that the paper was made from trees grown on stolen land srs.
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Originally Posted By TomWanks⏩
Damn brah pepper your angus. I imagine that dept is going to be a woke nightmare these days.

Prolly gonna have to preface your thesis by apologizing for your privilege and acknowledging that the paper was made from trees grown on stolen land srs.
I’m pretty good at being diplomatic in the face of different viewpoints srs.

One of the history programs I applied for is in the South (very near me) and the other is in the Midwest. I’m hoping they won’t be 12/10 woke, but unless it’s a Christian school (I applied to state schools), it’s going to be fairly liberal I’m sure.
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post 1622679711 11-15-2020, 07:47 AM
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Gjdm. What schools did you apply to?
post 1622679751 11-15-2020, 07:48 AM
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A PhD in history. Talk about pissing money away.
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Good for you bro
Are you planning to stay at your current job while doing your MA and go to school while working?
That was my plan (although my goal is a Masters in Math to teach community college math), but then I lost my full time job so I’m looking at going to grad school full time now
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Thanks guys.
Originally Posted By IlChosenOne⏩
Good for you bro
Are you planning to stay at your current job while doing your MA and go to school while working?
Yeah I’m going to keep working. 👍🏻
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best of luck to you. took me 3 yrs to get into a PhD program and I am NOT taking this for granted. It's all I got, gotta put all my work into it. not easy bro.
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden⏩
Thanks and I had the exact same experience at CC. In fact, that was part of my reasoning in personal statement for my application.

American history is the focus.
i wonder how bad it has gotten, when i had american history in highschool that teacher along with my english teacher were both the biggest bill clinton nuthuggers on the planet but they were still telling us the civil war was over 7 to 8 different issues, including trade and tariffs which impacted both differently and 99% of southerners couldnt afford slaves even if they wanted them. inb4 today you get expelled and sent off to the gulag for teaching that today
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Originally Posted By elterrible987⏩
i wonder how bad it has gotten, when i had american history in highschool that teacher along with my english teacher were both the biggest bill clinton nuthuggers on the planet but they were still telling us the civil war was over 7 to 8 different issues, including trade and tariffs which impacted both differently and 99% of southerners couldnt afford slaves even if they wanted them. inb4 today you get expelled and sent off to the gulag for teaching that today
This. Literally the only history class I took at the university level (guess this was in like 2013) was taught by a proto-woke Asian bish who's text book for the course, which was a survey of American History, was that phucking kunt Howard Zinn's A People's History of the United States.

She would shut down any critical questioning of the author's sources (or complete lack thereof-- lmfao at 1 page bibliography for a 750 page screed) or intentions.

Think Drewbrah is gonna be in for a rude awakening when his non-binary fac advisor determines the most effective way to repent for his privilege is to donate his diploma to an underprivileged trans child.
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Originally Posted By TomWanks⏩
Think Drewbrah is gonna be in for a rude awakening when his non-binary fac advisor determines the most effective way to repent for his privilege is to donate his diploma to an underprivileged trans child.
Don’t forget I work in a very Liberal, female-dominated field (elementary education) and I’ve never had any trouble getting along with anyone.

I just don’t tend to get worked up about differences of opinions and I can almost always find a middle ground. And if I can’t, I just move on with my life. I don’t require the confrontation srs.

But again, I am in the South were things are a little milder. Even the most Liberal person here pales in comparison to one of the blue hairs living in Oregon.
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Didn't read thread, but is your current employer paying for it? Or you spending 100k to make 15k/yr? At your advanced age? 100k that should be going towards retirement and your kids college.




If I could do it all again, I would have never got my masters. Wasted time and money. My estimation is it costed me approximately 250k at this point. Don't even want to extrapolate it out to find out how much it puts me back by 55.
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Good luck.

The thought of going back to school again is not pleasant for me. I'm done.
Well I’m motivated. I just told myself that I’m going to be in school for the next five years regardless, so it’s time to get to it. And that was my attitude.
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Good stuff OP. a MA in Education will be better than a MA in history if you're going to teach College level.
I have a few friends who did that and earned their PHD while teaching at the College they were at. The school even offered to pay off 4k a year on top for doing so.
Good luck my dude.
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Originally Posted By CanardMedic⏩
MA in Education will be better than a MA in history if you're going to teach College level.
Well it’s definitely one of the options. One of the schools to which I applied for their Education program has some sentimental value because about ten family members (grandparents, uncles, cousins, etc.) graduated from there. So assuming they except me, there’s a fair chance I will choose that program.

The only thing is, I already spent four years studying education. And history is more fun to me. So just for the sake of my own growth, I may go with the history program.
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Originally Posted By SoutheastBeast1⏩
A PhD in history. Talk about pissing money away.
exactly lmao. invest that money
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Originally Posted By bfdehewdbyywhn⏩
exactly lmao. invest that money
We aren’t exactly going broke over here lol. We both have substantial retirement investments, and I have a pension as well.
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Originally Posted By DrewDarden⏩
We aren’t exactly going broke over here lol. We both have substantial retirement investments, and I have a pension as well.
how much do you expect your salary to increase? you're 40. 50+ and will retire within the next 20 years

if you truly hate your elementary teaching then job then go ahead
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