Brahs I've been in the PoD business for a couple years now, with very very low success

I want to get into affilate marketing and use Pinterest to promote the products

I would like to know which affilate marketing program would be best for me to start with; Clickban, CJ Affilate? Or What?

Also, do you think it's worth the effort given that I plan to input ALOT of work into it? We're talking hundreds of pins a day and growing organically, I got the time and am home all day so hard work doesnt scare me

Do you have any kind of info that you think could be useful to start affilate marketing, I am feeling kind of lost, seeing that the pod **** that I was doing and put alot into is offering close to no returns I must find another outlet

hit me back on this u *******s

reps till im dry

Idk chit about Pinterest brah, only build and rank my own authority sites

I would say though that relying on a third party platform isn't a good long term strategy to sink a ton of work into. Nobody is going to give you some kind of 'blueprint' for making money and if they do it is already outdated. Gotta test chit out and learn the hard way.

https://www.blackhatworld.com/forums/making-money.12/

https://www.blackhatworld.com/forums...scussions.167/

Good luck.

I was able to make some pocket change over the years, but since I've lost my job I'm looking to take another serious swing with it now that I have the free time.

yeah that's smart and the long term way to go about it, but how about articles and content for your websites? Do you write them yourself or maybe hire someone else?

true and true again, I think I might need to shift my perspective from using third parties to making my own

Im already in there my dude, great resources and studying right now, but I thought I'd take a shoot at the misc as I generally trust you *******s alot more

Best of luck for your endeavors man, I wish you success

I had to learn that the hard way.

What got me into IM was buying a course for $99 from a youtuber, who wasn't even in the 'how to make money' niche but was very popular in an unrelated genre, and he said that he wanted to share how he earns a living.

What I got - which I didn't realize until later - was an outdated method.

What I eventually learned is that the easiest way to make money in IM is through teaching people 'how to make money' or selling tools to make money.

Yeah, feels, the pattern looks something like this

OP has alot of trial and error

OP finds something that works

OP sells the methods

OPs method is now obsolete

everyone but OP loses

It's funny because even tho I've been hustling for years online tryna make money, legit money, never any scammy sh, the most success I ever found was trading and selling cs go skins lol

Have you seen that thread with that dude who talks about POD success?

Then eventually it got revealed that he recommended 400 tshirt designs to earn £800 to £1000 a month.

How many designs do you have?We're all gonna make it.

I've wrestled with my conscience, but as tempting as Black Hat methods and selling porn is to make cash I won't do it.

I also won't promote CPA, due to seeing how scammy the CPA networks are to people who are naive enough sign up.

Honestly bro, I would just figure out how to sell actual products. I would only bother with affiliate stuff if I already had a social media following that I needed to monetize. Otherwise, trying to invent a following tomaybebe able to convert into sales a year from now is not it mane srs

I have about 300 designs across 3 stores Amazon Merch, Zazzle and Teespring, Zazzle has decentish insite organic traffic, Teespring has better sales profit margins but a bad marketplace, the best combo I found was Teespring+fb ads

That estimate feels WAAAY off in my experience, If I had double the designs I have now, I would never make close to 800 a month that's for sure, and my designs are quality enough, not crappy

I was growing Insta pages in order to have free channels to sponsor my pod productus, of all the niches that i've grown on insta 'babes' is most certainly the fastest, we talking hundreds of followers daily, but I dont know, it didnt feel right and the DMs i was getting of thirsty dudes were kinda disconcerting, like you, I dont want to touch the shady stuff like CPA, my goal is not to scam anyone, is to find the best legit funnel for my efforts to make some good money, but then again, isnt that everyone's goal..

300 designs and not making close to that... Damn... POD is tough then.

I have heard that FB ads is the way to go to profit, but media buying is a skill in itself it seems, as I'm guessing you know.LOL, was that e-whoring or a generic account showing a variety of women?From what I've seen of the CPA and Black Hat Marketers... Nope. A lot of people IMO are either desperate or amoral when it comes to earning.

Makes sense bro, another thing I was considering was dropshipping AliExpress stuff, maybe that's a more solid method even tho it involves alot of ads spending if you dont already have some sm following

I like this guy Biaheza's videos, he s one of the most legit ppl I've found talking about this stuff

media buying IS a skill in itself, you need to write an ad copy that works, find the right visual, be it image or video or whatever, THEN take those and test them in batteries of about 9 subsets with variances in image, ad copy AND target audience keeping a close eye on your cpc.. I've been experimenting a bit with it I had given myself a budget of just 100$ to practice it and ended up out of70$ but that was cool because I learned alot

It was kinda of a pinup page, I posted beautiful girls pics and credited the model when her name was available, figured we were both winning my page grew and they were getting more exposure
But 100dms a day of 'hey bby shuw sum boobs' soon became tiring and even if I didnt even open those messages I dont know it just felt bad

By the way man Im looking forward to see what you come up with now that you have all this free time on your hands, hoping for a misc thread soon! lol

I have written thousands of articles myself over the years but also worked with dozens of freelance writers. Its a huge headache.

I've never even made that much money from affiliate tbh, at the best points it has been a modest full time income. The best thing it did was teach me SEO, content marketing, PPC, building sites etc which lead to a lot of freelance work and a job doing marketing for a startup, and I also sold one of the sites for mid 5 figures back in 2016 which was decent.

I've been busy as fuk lately with work and had all kinds of stuff going on lifewise. I wanna get back in the game in 2021 though.

I've been thinking I would like to build a legit niche media brand, with a news site, YT, podcast, newsletter etc - rather than just another affiliate site. Way more work but has the potential for far more longevity and revenue opportunities.

As far as the point about 3rd parties, its kinda yes and no. If you get in at the right time you can definitely make money from X platform. The problem is you will never have any control and they dont give a chit about you or your income, only their own! One day you can be killing it, the next you're decimated. A book called 'unscripted' by M J Demarco (my favourite business writer) really hammers home the point about keeping as much control as possible and it is why he is against affiliate marketing (no control over product). Affiliate marketing on pinterest/Instagram etc you neither control the traffic source OR the product so there's no longevity, its a money making scheme not a business imo.

The worst thing is that if you had taken all that time, effort and brainpower you could probably build a real business with a lot more long term potential!

Good luck brah, you're gonna make it
Definitely man

These internet marketing gurus take the business principle of "selling shovels in a gold rush" - but they even sell lousy shovels

I bought a course on Pinterest affiliate marketing a couple of years ago. Considering actually finishing it all finally. I did go through some of it and remember her advising against spending hours and hours of posting pins. Save yourself frustration and time. If you go too hard immediately and are too dependent on it, you'll get frustrated and desperate feeling at the low return, which takes time to build, and you'll probably quit. Once you've learned the best way to do the pins, do it VERY part-time. If you create a dozen a day, you're doing too much. Don't put all your eggs in one basket.

Probably because the skins had people who wanted it. And you found a market for it (a want/need/demand where you provided value to them).

Affiliate seems to be more about "me me me", and not actually doing something other want you to do, but something you assumed was a very easy way of making money (I guess)