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post 1670374313 10-31-2022, 09:39 AM
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Affirmative Action Supreme Court Thread

No idea why this isn't being talked about more.

Quite possibly the most influential supreme court case in a while. If affirmative action is made illegal this would have an extreme impact on the racial make-up of the future professional workforce.

The Harvard case was filed suit by an Asian American rights organization. Asian Americans are always treated unfairly by all college admissions offices because of their perceived over-representation.

Background info:
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/30/polit...rmative-action

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post 1670374723 10-31-2022, 09:46 AM
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Sorry Asians you're white adjacent. But by all means keep voting for the party that wants those that are lesser qualified to take your spots.
post 1670375733 10-31-2022, 10:03 AM
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At first glance affirmative action is woke BS. But the implications of AA being struck down would be hard to grasp. Realistically at the end of this week, all colleges could basically be vastly over-represented (they already are to a lesser degree) by asians and whites and VASTLY under-represented by blacks/latinos.

This is for real. Like, you could wake up tomorrow and suddenly there would be like 5 black students at UCLA and 90% asians. Kinda shocking tbh.
post 1670377593 10-31-2022, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted By jimmybobjim
This is for real. Like, you could wake up tomorrow and suddenly there would be like 5 black students at UCLA and 90% asians. Kinda shocking tbh.
Damn, you're saying only the students who work hard and earn it will be there and then all the ones who got hot shotted over meaningless criteria like their race will be gone????
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post 1670377813 10-31-2022, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted By JUSA
Damn, you're saying only the students who work hard and earn it will be there and then all the ones who got hot shotted over meaningless criteria like their race will be gone????
Nah, it just means the people who are lucky enough to be raised out of poverty and difficult situations will be able to get elite educations.
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Originally Posted By jimmybobjim
Like, you could wake up tomorrow and suddenly there would be like 5 black students at UCLA and 90% asians. Kinda shocking tbh.
Gasp! The horror!
post 1670378023 10-31-2022, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted By NYPat
Nah, it just means the people who are lucky enough to be raised out of poverty and difficult situations will be able to get elite educations.
If youre truly gifted the path isnt that hard, no matter what class you are raised in. If you have someone with Einstein-level test results, they will at the least be on the radar from elite colleges/scholarships.
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post 1670378043 10-31-2022, 10:37 AM
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This should be a clear unanimous decision .


Let’s just wait till November 9th or later please
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Originally Posted By NYPat
Nah, it just means the people who are lucky enough to be raised out of poverty and difficult situations will be able to get elite educations.
I was unaware that all black people are born and raised in poverty and all white and Asians were not. Thank you for educating me on that, now I know better.

Btw, quick question - you love public education and demand it works, uh... why would it matter if someone went to a poor school vs a school in a middle class area?
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imagine being a diversity hire and happy about it

lmao
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Imagine a panel of multiple diversity hires deciding if it's racist or not
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post 1670378973 10-31-2022, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted By NYPat
Nah, it just means the people who are lucky enough to be raised out of poverty and difficult situations will be able to get elite educations.
Oh look. The racist is back.
Have any other derogatory remarks you want to make about native Americans?
post 1670379533 10-31-2022, 11:01 AM
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I am fine with affirmative action if it were the 1960s and 70s.


But it's not the 1960s or 70s anymore. It's been 60 years. If they haven't been able to pull themselves up with it, it is unneeded.
post 1670379653 10-31-2022, 11:04 AM
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post 1670379743 10-31-2022, 11:05 AM
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oh good so we can hire based on merit again?
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People have a hard time grasping that not everyone does or should go to college.

It should be for those who work hard and earn a spot. Not someone who slid through because of their skin color or the like.

Who do you want designing that bridge your children cross every day or that airplane families fly on? The diversity hire who got the degree because of a liberal agenda or the student who applied themselves and earned it.

being hard working and focused should be rewarded. being lazy and stupid should not be no matter what race you are.
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BRB I only got into a premier college because of the color of my skin and not because I actually have the grades. BRB flunking out of school after the first semester.

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post 1670381263 10-31-2022, 11:32 AM
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I'm kinda torn on this. On one hand it makes sense that merit should be the standard, but I also know a couple people who got in to a "prestigious/private" schools (USC and UCLA respectively) with 2.5GPAs. Strangely, it was their realization of being admitted into such an institution that lit a fire under their ass to do well and they went on to graduate. One became a Software Engineer and the other became a PA...they just needed a chance to succeed.....
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Affirmative Action is racist
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Originally Posted By metroins
I think the diversity stuff only applies to getting into college. In order to graduate they still need grades etc.
Or just complain enough to get the prof fired

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinio...unds-rcna51126
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Originally Posted By Procta
imagine being a diversity hire and happy about it

lmao
To be honest, it's a case of "don't hate the player, hate the game"

To respond to your remark, no i dont care if im a quota or a diversity hire. It's no different than applying to a job and being picked for a position even though you dont meet all the requirements. These jobs don't care about us, it's all about money.
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Originally Posted By Maestro
To be honest, it's a case of "don't hate the player, hate the game"

To respond to your remark, no i dont care if im a quota or a diversity hire. It's no different than applying to a job and being picked for a position even though you dont meet all the requirements. These jobs don't care about us, it's all about money.
its like dumping the entire bowl of candy into your bag off your neighbors door on Halloween that has a note plz take 1.

its knowingly not honest
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You do not need a degree to make well into a six figure salary either. People that tell you otherwise are just coping and hoping you fall into the same debt trap.

Intelligence and educated are two different things. Water tends to find its level and truly intelligent people end up making it regardless of race or socioeconomic background. They either start businesses or put themselves on a path through smart decisions career wise. They typically outshine their useless eater new grad employees and climb the ladder through merit.
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Originally Posted By XterraRob
Everyone does.
Who do you think is more likely to succeed in life/has the most options if NOT admitted to an institution for higher learning? The black or brown person that grew up in poverty and whos parent (not plural) only has a HS diploma? Or the white/Asian kid that grew up in a functional middle class household with parents who are alumni to Universities?
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This shouldn’t even have to be a thing, hiring or accepting anybody just because of race is racism. You take the most qualified person for whatever it is, simple.
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Originally Posted By Procta
its like dumping the entire bowl of candy into your bag off your neighbors door on Halloween that has a note plz take 1.

its knowingly not honest
Well, life isn't "honest" or fair. Never has been.
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Originally Posted By lexbishop
Representation going to those who deserve it. What a far out concept.
On paper that would be fine, but in the real world when dealing with PR and optics, do you think this will bode Well for us from a social standpoint?
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Originally Posted By XterraRob
White kids don't grow up in poverty?
Most certainly they do. I was on the admissions committee for a community college in Northern California....we essentially admitted everyone that applied because we were just a CC but we had full discretion to look into ALL of the applicants demographics and financial circumstances. Most often than not, if there was an issue with capacity we would make our decisions based on the applicants financial stability (their income and the income of the parents), and it was practically guaranteed the minority applicants were far worse off than their asian/white counterparts. BUT if there was a white applicant that was from a low income household they were definitely considered for admission over a black or Mexican with a higher familial income.
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Originally Posted By gachase21
This should be a clear unanimous decision .


Let’s just wait till November 9th or later please
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The 'race' box should be removed from the application all together. Liberals have shown they can't be trusted with that information

On another note, I'd like to see how these AA programs have set dumber students up to fail by putting them in schools they can't handle.
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