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post 1679276543 03-20-2023, 10:53 AM
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[140K reps] Apartment Theatre Setup

wassup fellas

just moved into a new place and looking to upgrade my apartment theatre setup

currently have a 65" TCL 4series TV and just a cheap 2.1 surround setup

it's impressive for being sub $500, but I feel like I could I could up my game a bit.

current TV:

https://a.co/d/0ilrPNo

current speakers:

https://a.co/d/9reIr2L

thinking I want to upgrade to a 75" or 85". looking for suggestions on TVs, media centers (thing that goes under the TV), and speaker setup

budget of $5,000 USD

so far I am thinking this TV (75" TCL 5 series):

https://a.co/d/8i3xrBY

this media station: (68w x 15.7d x 13t)

https://www.wayfair.com/furniture/pd...a=MXxOfDB8WXww

this receiver (Marantz NR1510):

https://a.co/d/6Nxawyk

these 5 speakers (Jamo Studio Series S 803):

https://a.co/d/4ZsMfXx

and this subwoofer (Jamo S810):

https://a.co/d/eEustuD


any thoughts, critiques, other suggestions?

it is an apartment and I have an 85 year old dude living below me. but the apartment is well insulated and as long as I keep the sub down, I don't expect many issues

I pretty much only use Roku apps on the TV. Netflix, HBO, etc. no blu-ray
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Maybe you should put that money towards a house.
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Receiver + speaker setup would be too cluttered in my apartment.

I went with a Sonos Beam2, two One SL surrounds on stands, and the new Sub Mini. TV is 55" LG C1, which I sit 5 feet away from. 75"-85" seems so overkill for an apartment.

Roku is garbage. I would get a Fire TV stick 4K max or Firecube. Then load Kodi and Smart Tube Next onto it.

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Originally Posted By JayJ350
Maybe you should put that money towards a house.
eh, any starter houses near me are $250k+

we're about to head into a recession and house prices will come back closer to normal and I'll buy then
Originally Posted By obmas
Receiver + speaker setup would be too cluttered in my apartment.

I went with a Sonos Beam2, two One SL surrounds on stands, and the new Sub Mini. TV is 55" LG C1, which I sit 5 feet away from. 75"-85" seems so overkill for an apartment.

Roku is garbage. I would get a Fire TV stick 4K max or Firecube. Then load Kodi and Smart Tube Next onto it.
I'm not aware of Sonos, will do some research.

my computer monitor is a 55" and not nearly big enough lol

the apartment is 1400sq ft so it's bigger than a lot of houses my friends have gotten. currently sitting about 12' away from the 65" tv
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Looks pretty good. Will sound alot better than a sound bar.

I also go the firestick route
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Originally Posted By PositiveCrew
wassup fellas

just moved into a new place and looking to upgrade my apartment theatre setup

currently have a 65" TCL 4series TV and just a cheap 2.1 surround setup

it's impressive for being sub $500, but I feel like I could I could up my game a bit.

current TV:

https://a.co/d/0ilrPNo

current speakers:

https://a.co/d/9reIr2L

thinking I want to upgrade to a 75" or 85". looking for suggestions on TVs, media centers (thing that goes under the TV), and speaker setup

budget of $5,000 USD

so far I am thinking this TV (75" TCL 5 series):

https://a.co/d/8i3xrBY

this media station: (68w x 15.7d x 13t)

https://www.wayfair.com/furniture/pd...a=MXxOfDB8WXww

this receiver (Marantz NR1510):

https://a.co/d/6Nxawyk

these 5 speakers (Jamo Studio Series S 803):

https://a.co/d/4ZsMfXx

and this subwoofer (Jamo S810):

https://a.co/d/eEustuD


any thoughts, critiques, other suggestions?

it is an apartment and I have an 85 year old dude living below me. but the apartment is well insulated and as long as I keep the sub down, I don't expect many issues

I pretty much only use Roku apps on the TV. Netflix, HBO, etc. no blu-ray
Just lol at any tv thats not an oled. Scrap any chit tv you had in mind, just buy LG or Sony OLED, even if you can only afford a 55 inch, or go for a used one, beats any LCD/LED tv by miles. For sound I had a Sonos arc with the rears, it was alright but def too expensive for whats it is. Its more for aesthetics
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Just get a good TV (LG OLED) and a Sonos soundbar +/- sub.
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Maybe you should put that money towards a house.
30k+ posts, and finally some logic
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Originally Posted By Fred87nc
Just lol at any tv thats not an oled. Scrap any chit tv you had in mind, just buy LG or Sony OLED, even if you can only afford a 55 inch, or go for a used one, beats any LCD/LED tv by miles. For sound I had a Sonos one with the rears, it was alright but def too expensive for whats it is. Its more for aesthetics
Have both QLED and OLED. I agree with you alot but this just isn't true. Both have benefits and drawbacks. My QLED is a little more vibrant and punchier and gives you that eye candy effect. My OLED has a little more realistic tones and gives a bit better contrast. Both TVs are very close and those differences are highlighted more in the room you have them in. OLED stands out in dark rooms while QLED stands out in normal to well lit rooms. Some games to me look better on my QLED and some on the OLED.

Also, if you watch cable or sports or play games with logos/static elements then OLED probably ain't for you because of burn in or at the very least, retention.

Point is, just spend some money and buy a fairly good TV and don't worry about it. The TV op is looking at is great.
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Originally Posted By elterrible987
This receiver is cheaper and more future proof (supports ATMOS and also 120hz 4k over HDMI), I would get those if buying a receiver even if I wasnt going to use them right away. $400 at Costco. The only real downside is that its larger (taller).

https://slickdeals.net/f/16520530-on...?src=frontpage


The TV you picked doesnt do 120hz which you might want if you game. I still have a 60hz TV myself, depends how much you want to spend. Seems like the TV you just got is a 2022 model so still pretty new, maybe wait until November/December timeframe for a TV and see if any 2023 models are on clearance getting ready for 2024...

Another thing you could do in an apartment is use larger front speakers in lieu of a subwoofer.. Those Jammos are good quality for their price... In order to go without a subwoofer though and use a 5.0 speaker system with front speakers that have like 5-6" woofers, its going to be in the $600-$700 range for the speakers.
This is all good advice. Future proofing your receiver is probably worth it, Costco does usually have great deals on denon receivers.
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my god, for a second I read it as 140k as a budget for a theatre set up. Would be mirin hard if so lool.
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Originally Posted By Coal
Have both QLED and OLED. I agree with you alot but this just isn't true. Both have benefits and drawbacks. My QLED is a little more vibrant and punchier and gives you that eye candy effect. My OLED has a little more realistic tones and gives a bit better contrast. Both TVs are very close and those differences are highlighted more in the room you have them in. OLED stands out in dark rooms while QLED stands out in normal to well lit rooms. Some games to me look better on my QLED and some on the OLED.

Also, if you watch cable or sports or play games with logos/static elements then OLED probably ain't for you because of burn in or at the very least, retention.

Point is, just spend some money and buy a fairly good TV and don't worry about it. The TV op is looking at is great.
Having Oleds for the past 4 years, even gaming on them for hours daily, the whole burn in is non existent. Not even worth it to worry about it.

Top of the line QLEDs that are the same price of OLED are good for rooms with plenty of natural sunlight because of the higher Brightness, but if you had to get only one, I would go for OLED.

Also newer ones are getting their brightness up and even samsung got their QD-OLED going already. That TLC still poverty compared to the OLEDs and not as bright as the top of the line samsung QLED to beat out the OLEDs
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Thats not a theatre, thats the average living room.
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Originally Posted By Fred87nc
Having Oleds for the past 4 years, even gaming on them for hours daily, the whole burn in is non existent. Not even worth it to worry about it.

Top of the line QLEDs that are the same price of OLED are good for rooms with plenty of natural sunlight because of the higher Brightness, but if you had to get only one, I would go for OLED.

Also newer ones are getting their brightness up and even samsung got their QD-OLED going already. That TLC still poverty compared to the OLEDs and not as bright as the top of the line samsung QLED to beat out the OLEDs
This isn't isn't gaming on them for hours, it's looking at content with static logos, example if you watch a bunch of sports. I get the tech is alot better now but the O in OLED will always stand for Organic.


Also, I don't even agree with your statement about if you had to get only one to go for OLED. Lol, I have both TVs right here and think the QLED is the better all rounder and can work anywhere and look punchy and vibrant. The blacks are very close to OLED too. And you get no downsides to the tech. The TV will be good in any room, and will last a longer time and can be used by anyone without having to baby it. My entertainment room has the QLED for everyone to enjoy and the OLED is in my bedroom that's almost always dark.
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Originally Posted By freeburn
Looks pretty good. Will sound alot better than a sound bar.

I also go the firestick route
what's the benefit of a firestick?

pretty much everyone I know just uses TCL TV's and default apps

we're all peasants
Originally Posted By elterrible987
This receiver is cheaper and more future proof (supports ATMOS and also 120hz 4k over HDMI), I would get those if buying a receiver even if I wasnt going to use them right away. $400 at Costco. The only real downside is that its larger (taller).

https://slickdeals.net/f/16520530-on...?src=frontpage


The TV you picked doesnt do 120hz which you might want if you game. I still have a 60hz TV myself, depends how much you want to spend. Seems like the TV you just got is a 2022 model so still pretty new, maybe wait until November/December timeframe for a TV and see if any 2023 models are on clearance getting ready for 2024...

Another thing you could do in an apartment is use larger front speakers in lieu of a subwoofer.. Those Jammos are good quality for their price... In order to go without a subwoofer though and use a 5.0 speaker system with front speakers that have like 5-6" woofers, its going to be in the $600-$700 range for the speakers.
awesome thanks for the advice on the receiver!

I am also thinking going heavier into front speakers (and having surround speakers) in lieu of the sub will be plenty
Originally Posted By Fred87nc
Just lol at any tv thats not an oled. Scrap any chit tv you had in mind, just buy LG or Sony OLED, even if you can only afford a 55 inch, or go for a used one, beats any LCD/LED tv by miles. For sound I had a Sonos one with the rears, it was alright but def too expensive for whats it is. Its more for aesthetics
tbh with my poverty eyesight I don't see a huge difference with OLED

I owned the LG 48" C1 for a computer monitor for awhile and wasn't impressed

good to know Sonos is overrated
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I use all android devices, but the Roku stuff has never let me down
Originally Posted By Coal
Have both QLED and OLED. I agree with you alot but this just isn't true. Both have benefits and drawbacks. My QLED is a little more vibrant and punchier and gives you that eye candy effect. My OLED has a little more realistic tones and gives a bit better contrast. Both TVs are very close and those differences are highlighted more in the room you have them in. OLED stands out in dark rooms while QLED stands out in normal to well lit rooms. Some games to me look better on my QLED and some on the OLED.

Also, if you watch cable or sports or play games with logos/static elements then OLED probably ain't for you because of burn in or at the very least, retention.

Point is, just spend some money and buy a fairly good TV and don't worry about it. The TV op is looking at is great.
das it mane. the TCL's have been my go to for like 10 years. granted, I've never seen an upper tier model TV - everyone I know either runs TCLs or just does projectors
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Originally Posted By Coal
This isn't isn't gaming on them for hours, it's looking at content with static logos, example if you watch a bunch of sports. I get the tech is alot better now but the O in OLED will always stand for Organic.


Also, I don't even agree with your statement about if you had to get only one to go for OLED. Lol, I have both TVs right here and think the QLED is the better all rounder and can work anywhere and look punchy and vibrant. The blacks are very close to OLED too. And you get no downsides to the tech. The TV will be good in any room, and will last a longer time and can be used by anyone without having to baby it. My entertainment room has the QLED for everyone to enjoy and the OLED is in my bedroom that's almost always dark.
I was playing Apex and warzone non stop during corona and that has static logos for the weapon bar crap, this was also on a B7 which is like a 2017 model. No reason to baby it specially the new ones.

Qled everything is fun and games till the pitch black scenes come on. But hey I never actually owned a QLED so theres that , I just made the jump from poverty LED to OLED and never looked back.

Edit: nvm I did own a QLED monitor, straight out trash, OLED king

close to OLED blacks my ass
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Originally Posted By PositiveCrew
I owned the LG 48" C1 for a computer monitor for awhile and wasn't impressed

good to know Sonos is overrated

Thats crazy, I always had the top of the line monitors and always hated the back light bleed on IPS displays, thats the only area where OLED really made the difference.




Actually now that I think of it, I did buy the Odyssey g9 49 inch super ultrawide monitor and thats supposed to be QLED, thing was trash, it still get that back light bleed,

(my pics)




Im looking at getting an oled monitor pretty soon, also considering the 42 or 48 oled as a monitor.
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rent a house and get a real system with minimum 2 subwoofers, 2 front towers, large center channel speaker as well. Or if you must be in apartment get a high end 70+ inch Samsung or LG. with a soundbar. Either the high end samsung soundbar/sub or the Sennheiser Ambeo w/sub soundbar.
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Originally Posted By Fred87nc
Edit: nvm I did own a QLED monitor, straight out trash, OLED king

close to OLED blacks my ass
There's no way you're this retarded right? There are cheap and expensive LED tech that have wild differences in quality. My high end Samsung TV looks far better than your monitor. There are many videos on YouTube comparing both TVs, that's why they are priced the same and compete against each other. Both have advantages and drawbacks.

Again, I have both TVs right here, I have no incentive to choose either over the other. OLEDcels are cultists I swear.





I would choose the one on the right for a well lit room anyday
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Originally Posted By Coal
There's no way you're this retarded right? There are cheap and expensive LED tech that have wild differences in quality. My high end Samsung TV looks far better than your monitor. There are many videos on YouTube comparing both TVs, that's why they are priced the same and compete against each other. Both have advantages and drawbacks.

Again, I have both TVs right here, I have no incentive to choose either over the other. OLEDcels are cultists I swear.





I would choose the one on the right for a well lit room anyday
I stand my same point, high end top of the line samsungs that are worth same or more than OLED can come close like I already mentioned, but at that point he might as well go with OLED that can beat that TLC qled he quoted as an upgrade.

Big difference is that all OLED as pretty much equal in display, vs the QLED theres a huge difference. Thats as $1800 monitor btw, quite disappointing. The biggest problem are those back light bleeds

Even Samsung abandoned that poverty tech and moved to QD-OLED
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Originally Posted By Fred87nc
Thats crazy, I always had the top of the line monitors and always hated the back light bleed on IPS displays, thats the only area where OLED really made the difference.

Actually now that I think of it, I did buy the Odyssey g9 49 inch super ultrawide monitor and thats supposed to be QLED, thing was trash, it still get that back light bleed,

(my pics)

Im looking at getting an oled monitor pretty soon, also considering the 42 or 48 oled as a monitor.
99% of the time I never notice backlight bleed unless I have all of my monitors set to an all black background - specifically for testing

the 49" G9 was my favorite monitor I've ever owned:



have the 55" Odyssey Ark now:



I will never do 16:9 again for any monitors. Ultrawide is best. and AFAIK, they don't make OLED ultrawides yet. or atleast last time I was in the market
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Originally Posted By PositiveCrew
99% of the time I never notice backlight bleed unless I have all of my monitors set to an all black background - specifically for testing

the 49" G9 was my favorite monitor I've ever owned:



have the 55" Odyssey Ark now:



I will never do 16:9 again for any monitors. Ultrawide is best. and AFAIK, they don't make OLED ultrawides yet. or atleast last time I was in the market
They are out now, Ultrawide OLED, and the Odyssey g9 oled is coming out soon too. Pretty neat. Was your G9 the original G9 or the neo g9? Neo g9 supposed to have mini led which is better than the first G9.

Im torn between a regular ultrawide oled or going for the G9 OLED. Thing is going to be juicy at 240hz, but samsung has a back track record of issues at launch.

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Originally Posted By Fred87nc
They are out now, Ultrawide OLED, and the Odyssey g9 oled is coming out soon too. Pretty neat. Was your G9 the original G9 or the neo g9? Neo g9 supposed to have mini led which is better than the first G9.

Im torn between a regular ultrawide oled or going for the G9 OLED. Thing is going to be juicy at 240hz, but samsung has a back track record of issues at launch.
I just had the OG G9. it had some issues with firmware and whatnot, but that's been the case for every monitor I've ever owned

the Neo didn't look much better on paper to me other than weight savings

with the 55" Ark I'll probably be set for another 5 years. the multi-tasking capability is unparalleled, plus the ability to still play as if I'm using a 49" 32:9 on the bottom half of the screen
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