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post 1681280563 04-21-2023, 10:47 PM
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Ukrainian war could have ended over one year ago.

Apparently Putin oddly offered not to kill Zelensky which gave the latter the courage to keep sacrificing his country's troops. If for whatever odd reason he didn't want to kill Zelensky then at least oust him from his position so he can't escalate the conflict. This was back in February 2022 which means it would have ended the following March.

But instead a billion people in the rest of the world have to go through a recession, inflation, etc for I don't know what reason.



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We left Afghanistan a few months before the Ukraine conflict kicked off, and the military-industrial complex got to get paid ALWAYS.
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post 1681282243 04-21-2023, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted By elterrible987⏩
Yeah but think of how much revenue lockheed martin would have lost
this.
Originally Posted By BasedBagel⏩
We left Afghanistan a few months before the Ukraine conflict kicked off, and the military-industrial complex got to get paid ALWAYS.
as much as some of you love to hate it, this stuff keeps the lights on and keeps americans employed.


would you rather we go broke as a nation and collapse, or some ukicels die fighting and testing our weapons and tactics for us?
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post 1681282923 04-22-2023, 12:10 AM
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Why does USA always have to be at war with a country
post 1681283013 04-22-2023, 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted By Misque*******⏩
Why does USA always have to be at war with a country
it's how we keep our economy going and ensure that the dollar remains the world's reserve currency



you want to live with the comforts and freedoms you have? well, people elsewhere have to die for it. and i guess some of our own, too but they are soldiers and know what they signed up for.



thankfully with ukicels, it's not our boys who are dying, but theirs so it's a win win
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post 1681283043 04-22-2023, 12:15 AM
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War could have been ended in 2014
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Originally Posted By Misque*******⏩
Why does USA always have to be at war with a country
I mean we could go back to when Europe dominated the world and there was a huge World War every 5 years.
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Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja⏩
I agree, Putin could have realized his advisors lied to him, and pulled out. Playing into a proxy war is dumb on his part.
Remember when he said he could take most of the previous USSR Republics within weeks if he wanted? Lmao
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Originally Posted By elterrible987⏩
Yeah but think of how much revenue lockheed martin would have lost
In FY 2022, top awardee Lockheed Martin received $45.7 billion in prime contracts of total contract funds awarded by the DoD. Runner-up was Raytheon Technologies with $25.4 billion followed by General Dynamics in third place with $21.2 billion.
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4⏩
Remember when he said he could take most of the previous USSR Republics within weeks if he wanted? Lmao
he could
post 1681283343 04-22-2023, 12:26 AM
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Oil producers & arms dealers LOVE this war

Just like big pharma loved covid.

We are in the Matrix brahs stay safe
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Originally Posted By whitepaper⏩
this.
this.
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Originally Posted By whitepaper⏩
this.





as much as some of you love to hate it, this stuff keeps the lights on and keeps americans employed.


would you rather we go broke as a nation and collapse, or some ukicels die fighting and testing our weapons and tactics for us?
false dichotomy and ridiculous assertion

And you guys don't understand. This isn't some imperial quest. Putin sees this as the sacred duty of Russia to defeat nazism and halt NATO's influence.
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Originally Posted By Banderistan⏩
false dichotomy and ridiculous assertion

And you guys don't understand. This isn't some imperial quest. Putin sees this as the sacred duty of Russia to defeat nazism andhalt NATO's influence.
The bold part is important.

Remember when the USA LITERALLY TRIED TO INVADE ITS NEIGHBOR (Cuba) because it turned Communist? People forget so easily.
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and you expect manlets
to be reasonable

both of the war leaders
are midgets.
let that zink in.
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Originally Posted By Noliberals4⏩
Remember when he said he could take most of the previous USSR Republics within weeks if he wanted? Lmao
Russians were counting on their economy/military tactics/equipment being stuck in the mud, as is in their case.

They don't understand and have come to hate the fact that the countries who departed from the USSR were and are looking ways to progress not regress.
Defeat the defeatist.
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Originally Posted By TaeBoNinja⏩
I agree, Putin could have realized his advisors lied to him, and pulled out. Playing into a proxy war is dumb on his part.
no way. it's a proxy war for us, but not for russia.

black sea is at stake and effectively naval ability
Originally Posted By Banderistan⏩
false dichotomy and ridiculous assertion

And you guys don't understand. This isn't some imperial quest. Putin sees this as the sacred duty of Russia to defeat nazism and halt NATO's influence.
please explain how? one thing to have a counter argument, another to just say "wrong"

the nazism angle is just talking point for him. i do agree with nato influence but this ultimately goes to how neutured russia becomes if it loses the black sea. which is why it doesn't give as much of a fuk about finalnd/sweden joining nato because the baltic isn't as crucial
Originally Posted By Noliberals4⏩
The bold part is important.

Remember when the USA LITERALLY TRIED TO INVADE ITS NEIGHBOR (Cuba) because it turned Communist? People forget so easily.
less about it being communist per se, more about it aligning with the enemy at the time. communism was just seen as an allying with the enemy, nothing inherently worrying about "communism" boogieman to our direct way of life--either way the reason for the invasion was that russia was going to put nukes in cuba and we can't have our neighboring country have our enemy's weapons pointed at us.

we would be crazy to let that happen
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Originally Posted By whitepaper⏩
no way. it's a proxy war for us, but not for russia.

black sea is at stake and effectively naval ability



please explain how? one thing to have a counter argument, another to just say "wrong"

the nazism angle is just talking point for him. i do agree with nato influence but this ultimately goes to how neutured russia becomes if it loses the black sea. which is why it doesn't give as much of a fuk about finalnd/sweden joining nato because the baltic isn't as crucial



less about it being communist per se, more about it aligning with the enemy at the time. communism was just seen as an allying with the enemy, nothing inherently worrying about "communism" boogieman to our direct way of life--either way the reason for the invasion was that russia was going to put nukes in cuba and we can't have our neighboring country have our enemy's weapons pointed at us.

we would be crazy to let that happen
The nazism angle is not just a talking point. In fact, it's largely the cause of the war. Look into it. I don't have the patience to list everything as I have done so way too many times in the Russia thread. Suffice it to say that Ukrainian ultranationalist and anticommunist forces repeatedly marginalized ethnic Russians, and it reached a boiling point when they started murdering them. Ukraine refused peace and any attempts at granting some level of autonomy to the ethnic Russian territories. Russia invaded when America looked weak and as a last resort to guarantee their security.







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Originally Posted By Banderistan⏩
The nazism angle is not just a talking point. In fact, it's largely the cause of the war. Look into it. I don't have the patience to list everything as I have done so way too many times in the Russia thread. Suffice it to say that Ukrainian ultranationalist and anticommunist forces repeatedly marginalized ethnic Russians, and it reached a boiling point when they started murdering them. Ukraine refused peace and any attempts at granting some level of autonomy to the ethnic Russian territories. Russia invaded when America looked weak and as a last resort to guarantee their security.







you're insane if you think putin truly cares about those people, and isn't just using this as an avenue for protecting national security
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Originally Posted By whitepaper⏩
you're insane if you think putin truly cares about those people, and isn't just using this as an avenue for protecting national security
It's both.
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Originally Posted By Banderistan⏩
It's both.
it's one with the other as an excuse


national security is put above all else. this nazi angle is just a justification
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Originally Posted By Misque*******⏩
Why does USA always have to be at war with a country
Remember when Trump didn't start any new wars, tried pulling troops out of every country, had his generals lie to him and tell him we didn't actually have those troops, which we later found out was a lie, and we also had one of the most prosperous periods in the last century?

Almost like the perpetual wars are only useful in screwing the average American and when we're not getting bled dry, we actually do really well.
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Originally Posted By Dan_S⏩
Remember when Trump didn't start any new wars, tried pulling troops out of every country, had his generals lie to him and tell him we didn't actually have those troops, which we later found out was a lie, and we also had one of the most prosperous periods in the last century?

Almost like the perpetual wars are only useful in screwing the average American and when we're not getting bled dry, we actually do really well.
not true


the war machine keeps us as a global super power and keeps the economy going


imagine the shiit hole we would be in if it wasn't for government spending to feed ukicels weapons for them to go fight for us
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Originally Posted By ErnieMccracken⏩
In FY 2022, top awardee Lockheed Martin received $45.7 billion in prime contracts of total contract funds awarded by the DoD. Runner-up was Raytheon Technologies with $25.4 billion followed by General Dynamics in third place with $21.2 billion.
Yeah but it doesn't feel like enough for the U.S population. Surely the new problems caused by Russia and its allies are more damning to the U.S economy.
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Originally Posted By whitepaper⏩
it's one with the other as an excuse


national security is put above all else. this nazi angle is just a justification
The nazi angle IS the national security issue.
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One of the few copes in my life is waking up everyday and opening news websites to see if Putin has finally dropped a nuke on Kiev.

Hopefully 2023 will be the year.
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Bring on the spring offensive LOLOLL
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Originally Posted By whitepaper⏩
not true


the war machine keeps us as a global super power and keeps the economy going
Not true.

Its US tax dollars that powers the military industrial complex.
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I wonder how the Ukrainian military, people and the people/government of other nations would feel if this rumour of immunity for Zelensky is true?

If true, that would mean he coaxed tens of thousands to die and billions in economic revenue lost for something he himself is protected from. Then there is the turmoil of the Ukrainians themselves and world economies.

The supporting governments should know about this..
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Originally Posted By elterrible987⏩
Yeah but think of how much revenue lockheed martin would have lost
Then if they cashed in at the very least they should the pay entire U.S debt and save millions of American jobs and the credit score.



"If Democrats and Republicans do not agree to allow the US to borrow more - or, in their language, raise the debt ceiling - the world's biggest economy will default on its $31.4 trillion (£25tn) debt. "

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-65633280
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