03-02-2024, 01:07 PM
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Alcohol is the perfect cure for chronic depression…
Look at it like this a person is depressed all the time due to a certain tragedy in his life or ongoing problem or problems..so yeah he is depressed all the time….mostly hopeless and nothing feels right…it's just sad and sorrow all the time straight up…
When he drinks alcohol it makes him alive, happy and he enjoys it…so whenever he is at it everything feels right…so if he does it all the time he is happy all the time instead of being sad all the time?
When he drinks alcohol it makes him alive, happy and he enjoys it…so whenever he is at it everything feels right…so if he does it all the time he is happy all the time instead of being sad all the time?
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03-02-2024, 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted By robreynolds1234⏩
you obviously dont know a damn thing about alcoholism
Look at it like this a person is depressed all the time due to a certain tragedy in his life or ongoing problem or problems..so yeah he is depressed all the time….mostly hopeless and nothing feels right…it's just sad and sorrow all the time straight up…
When he drinks alcohol it makes him alive, happy and he enjoys it…so whenever he is at it everything feels right…so if he does it all the time he is happy all the time instead of being sad all the time?
When he drinks alcohol it makes him alive, happy and he enjoys it…so whenever he is at it everything feels right…so if he does it all the time he is happy all the time instead of being sad all the time?
03-02-2024, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted By Akd123⏩
It's from my personal experience…I am not the perfect one when it comes to alcohol…
you obviously dont know a damn thing about alcoholism
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03-02-2024, 01:24 PM
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You're essentially taking out a loan with a lot of interest. It will make you feel great in the moment, but will later be a bigger price to pay, and I'm not talking about a hangover. But for some, it may be worth it considering their present circumstance.
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03-02-2024, 01:26 PM
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It just makes it worse in the long run.
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03-02-2024, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted By robreynolds1234⏩
ive been an alcoholic for over 20 years.ruined my life.you have to be drunk every waking hour to forget stuff and when it wears off reality hits you like a ton of bricks.people here think im an arsehole but im just trying to tell it like it is.guess they dont like it.im a week sober today and its gonna take months to get back to normal. i just dont wanna see anyone ruin there life like i did.what you described in the OP is a surefire way to being a miserable alcoholic.it happened to me
It's from my personal experience…I am not the perfect one when it comes to alcohol…
03-02-2024, 01:29 PM
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03-02-2024, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted By Pats2022SBwin⏩
You're essentially taking out a loan with a lot of interest. It will make you feel great in the moment, but will later be a bigger price to pay, and I'm not talking about a hangover. But for some, it may be worth it considering their present circumstance.
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03-02-2024, 01:32 PM
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Sounds like you're in denial about alcohol, and denial can be a coping mechanism in itself.
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03-02-2024, 02:02 PM
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You can't do it "all the time" unless you want to have serious health problems.
Also, alcohol makes depression worse when you come down from it.
Also, alcohol makes depression worse when you come down from it.
03-04-2024, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted By Pats2022SBwin⏩
Sometimes I am so bored that alcohol is the only thing that feels right…like you know I forget about being bored like completely…but it lasts for a few hours…then I can do something else which is fun…and then back to alcohol..
You're essentially taking out a loan with a lot of interest. It will make you feel great in the moment, but will later be a bigger price to pay, and I'm not talking about a hangover. But for some, it may be worth it considering their present circumstance.
Originally Posted By BigGuyTruth⏩
Yeah I have heard people who consumed lots of liquor at some point in their lives, being to see serious effects later on (like even if they have stopped drinking some time ago)…
It just makes it worse in the long run.
Originally Posted By Akd123⏩
I have seen all the pathetic things that happen to people if they are into alcoholism…but even that is not motivating enough for me to quit it…
ive been an alcoholic for over 20 years.ruined my life.you have to be drunk every waking hour to forget stuff and when it wears off reality hits you like a ton of bricks.people here think im an arsehole but im just trying to tell it like it is.guess they dont like it.im a week sober today and its gonna take months to get back to normal. i just dont wanna see anyone ruin there life like i did.what you described in the OP is a surefire way to being a miserable alcoholic.it happened to me
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Sometimes that kind of addiction just feels right…I know it can get back to me later on….but I want my present to be jolly…
That's exactly how you become an addict. (Super Ded fkn Srs)
Originally Posted By XterraRob⏩
Yeah that cope makes me drink every other day….but I always enjoy it anyways…
Sounds like you're in denial about alcohol, and denial can be a coping mechanism in itself.
Originally Posted By David275⏩
Yeah so I can drink again to not to feel depressed.
You can't do it "all the time" unless you want to have serious health problems.
Also, alcohol makes depression worse when you come down from it.
Also, alcohol makes depression worse when you come down from it.
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03-04-2024, 01:44 PM
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03-04-2024, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted By thursdayParty1⏩
All kinds of liquor is fun, depends on what personal choices are (so they drink more of that)…even in beer we have varieties like tastes, brands, alcohol volume…I also like kind of stuff we can do when drunk on beer (which is more controlable)….
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03-04-2024, 01:47 PM
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high gravity malt liquor is the best beer if u arent a pussy and bitch about taste cheap and right
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03-04-2024, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted By robreynolds1234⏩
Look at it like this a person is depressed all the time due to a certain tragedy in his life or ongoing problem or problems..so yeah he is depressed all the time….mostly hopeless and nothing feels right…it's just sad and sorrow all the time straight up…
When he drinks alcohol it makes him alive, happy and he enjoys it…so whenever he is at it everything feels right…so if he does it all the time he is happy all the time instead of being sad all the time?
When he drinks alcohol it makes him alive, happy and he enjoys it…so whenever he is at it everything feels right…so if he does it all the time he is happy all the time instead of being sad all the time?
Classic alcoholic in the making.
The scenario you just described is a person never facing what is actually making them depressed, never working to improve their mental health.
Alcohol won't fix your depression, just make you forget it for a while. You still need to fix the underlying issue…
Or just embrace the alcoholism.
But yeah.. drinking alcohol is fun. Goku Lands on Namek.
But every alcoholic reaches a point where it isn't anymore. And it's pretty much way too late at that point.
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03-04-2024, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted By havoc00⏩
5% liquor volume beer is the best. Anything less or higher then that is not my thing. 5% has the best taste, I can drink lots of it…gives the most decent highs as well..
high gravity malt liquor is the best beer if u arent a pussy and bitch about taste cheap and right
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03-04-2024, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted By robreynolds1234⏩
og bud is 5% and is delicious
5% liquor volume beer is the best. Anything less or higher then that is not my thing. 5% has the best taste, I can drink lots of it…gives the most decent highs as well..
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03-04-2024, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted By Tanerian⏩
I have tried many other things to end depression….or to quit drinking…nothing works really…only alcohol works…so if I am always enjoying it…might as well do it all the time….provided I eat, drink water and sleep right…
Classic alcoholic in the making.
The scenario you just described is a person never facing what is actually making them depressed, never working to improve their mental health.
Alcohol won't fix your depression, just make you forget it for a while. You still need to fix the underlying issue…
Or just embrace the alcoholism.
But yeah.. drinking alcohol is fun. Goku Lands on Namek.
But every alcoholic reaches a point where it isn't anymore. And it's pretty much way too late at that point.
The scenario you just described is a person never facing what is actually making them depressed, never working to improve their mental health.
Alcohol won't fix your depression, just make you forget it for a while. You still need to fix the underlying issue…
Or just embrace the alcoholism.
But yeah.. drinking alcohol is fun. Goku Lands on Namek.
But every alcoholic reaches a point where it isn't anymore. And it's pretty much way too late at that point.
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03-04-2024, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted By robreynolds1234⏩
whats ur daily routine like
I have tried many other things to end depression….or to quit drinking…nothing works really…only alcohol works…so if I am always enjoying it…might as well do it all the time….provided I eat, drink water and sleep right…
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03-04-2024, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted By havoc00⏩
I am mostly a Heineken guy.
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On drinking days:
whats ur daily routine like
Wake up around 11.00 am…shower, breakfast, go out to buy liquor, cigarettes, food. Start drinking at 1 pm, lunch at 4 pm, lie down for a while…start drinking again at 6 pm, dinner at 9 pm….lie down for a while….start drinking again at 1 am, have a late night snack at 2.30 am…sleep at 3 am….
On non-drinking days:
Wake up around 11 am, shower, breakfast, do household chores, browse forums and internet, watch television, have lunch, play video games, watch television, have dinner, browse forums and internet….have late night snack…sleep at 3 am…
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03-04-2024, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted By robreynolds1234⏩
u have off days? fuuurak
I am mostly a Heineken guy.
On drinking days:
Wake up around 11.00 am…shower, breakfast, go out to buy liquor, cigarettes, food. Start drinking at 1 pm, lunch at 4 pm, lie down for a while…start drinking again at 6 pm, dinner at 9 pm….lie down for a while….start drinking again at 1 am, have a late night snack at 2.30 am…sleep at 3 am….
On non-drinking days:
Wake up around 11 am, shower, breakfast, do household chores, browse forums and internet, watch television, have lunch, play video games, watch television, have dinner, browse forums and internet….have late night snack…sleep at 3 am…
On drinking days:
Wake up around 11.00 am…shower, breakfast, go out to buy liquor, cigarettes, food. Start drinking at 1 pm, lunch at 4 pm, lie down for a while…start drinking again at 6 pm, dinner at 9 pm….lie down for a while….start drinking again at 1 am, have a late night snack at 2.30 am…sleep at 3 am….
On non-drinking days:
Wake up around 11 am, shower, breakfast, do household chores, browse forums and internet, watch television, have lunch, play video games, watch television, have dinner, browse forums and internet….have late night snack…sleep at 3 am…
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03-04-2024, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted By havoc00⏩
You stop catching a buzz if you drink everyday, thats why I stick to weekends mostly
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03-04-2024, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted By havoc00⏩
Yeah.
u have off days? fuuurak
Originally Posted By thursdayParty1⏩
Yeah, it's good to have few off days of drinking…else it can get boring and tiring (I am sure all alcoholics follow that pattern)…
You stop catching a buzz if you drink everyday, thats why I stick to weekends mostly
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03-04-2024, 02:21 PM
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It's a thief.
Former rugby player, frat guy, etc., I've been around the drinking block a few times. Even the heavier drinking non-alcoholic friends lose a lot as the years go by. It's not pretty seeing a 50 year old heavy drinker, even if it hasn't taken over their lives.
35 and already have a longer list than I should of friends lost due to alcohol. Not to even get into what I allowed alcohol to take away from me, and I am still scraping tooth, nail, and claw to get back.
I was a legitimate millionaire in my late twenties. Two successful businesses, successful career, dating news anchors, 8/10 doctors, bought luxury cars cash, etc. Vacation condo, property rentals, 3.9 GPA in my MBA program. IRA, pension, 401ks.
Still have the IRAs and 401ks, but most of the above was lost. The nightmares of seizures, DT's hospitalizations, etc. is over in sobriety, but the road back to be established is a long and hard one.
For the non-alcoholic yeah, it can work as a crutch temporarily, but it's a dangerous road. Drinking rarely ever solved the underlying issues. Just kicked them down the road and gave the problem a shot of OJ.
Former rugby player, frat guy, etc., I've been around the drinking block a few times. Even the heavier drinking non-alcoholic friends lose a lot as the years go by. It's not pretty seeing a 50 year old heavy drinker, even if it hasn't taken over their lives.
35 and already have a longer list than I should of friends lost due to alcohol. Not to even get into what I allowed alcohol to take away from me, and I am still scraping tooth, nail, and claw to get back.
I was a legitimate millionaire in my late twenties. Two successful businesses, successful career, dating news anchors, 8/10 doctors, bought luxury cars cash, etc. Vacation condo, property rentals, 3.9 GPA in my MBA program. IRA, pension, 401ks.
Still have the IRAs and 401ks, but most of the above was lost. The nightmares of seizures, DT's hospitalizations, etc. is over in sobriety, but the road back to be established is a long and hard one.
For the non-alcoholic yeah, it can work as a crutch temporarily, but it's a dangerous road. Drinking rarely ever solved the underlying issues. Just kicked them down the road and gave the problem a shot of OJ.
03-04-2024, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted By Arem24⏩
But that's what people do when they are highly successful, they turn to life of alcohol and drugs and lose much of what they had? Little bit turns into too much? Too much is addictive? All goes wrong at some point? Even that fear makes you wanna drink regularly? I feel I have nothing to lose or gain after the age of 35…just gotta live by for now…but I don't think how I can do it without alcohol..
It's a thief.
Former rugby player, frat guy, etc., I've been around the drinking block a few times. Even the heavier drinking non-alcoholic friends lose a lot as the years go by. It's not pretty seeing a 50 year old heavy drinker, even if it hasn't taken over their lives.
35 and already have a longer list than I should of friends lost due to alcohol. Not to even get into what I allowed alcohol to take away from me, and I am still scraping tooth, nail, and claw to get back.
I was a legitimate millionaire in my late twenties. Two successful businesses, successful career, dating news anchors, 8/10 doctors, bought luxury cars cash, etc. Vacation condo, property rentals, 3.9 GPA in my MBA program. IRA, pension, 401ks.
Still have the IRAs and 401ks, but most of the above was lost. The nightmares of seizures, DT's hospitalizations, etc. is over in sobriety, but the road back to be established is a long and hard one.
For the non-alcoholic yeah, it can work as a crutch temporarily, but it's a dangerous road. Drinking rarely ever solved the underlying issues. Just kicked them down the road and gave the problem a shot of OJ.
Former rugby player, frat guy, etc., I've been around the drinking block a few times. Even the heavier drinking non-alcoholic friends lose a lot as the years go by. It's not pretty seeing a 50 year old heavy drinker, even if it hasn't taken over their lives.
35 and already have a longer list than I should of friends lost due to alcohol. Not to even get into what I allowed alcohol to take away from me, and I am still scraping tooth, nail, and claw to get back.
I was a legitimate millionaire in my late twenties. Two successful businesses, successful career, dating news anchors, 8/10 doctors, bought luxury cars cash, etc. Vacation condo, property rentals, 3.9 GPA in my MBA program. IRA, pension, 401ks.
Still have the IRAs and 401ks, but most of the above was lost. The nightmares of seizures, DT's hospitalizations, etc. is over in sobriety, but the road back to be established is a long and hard one.
For the non-alcoholic yeah, it can work as a crutch temporarily, but it's a dangerous road. Drinking rarely ever solved the underlying issues. Just kicked them down the road and gave the problem a shot of OJ.
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03-04-2024, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted By robreynolds1234⏩
It's progressive for many, and that haze alcohol provides becomes a blindfold. The physical effects get worse. At 32 I never considered seizures or DT's a risk. Fast forward one year, and it was a legitimate concern after a slip and a weekend of heavy drinking. Not to mention issues like pancreatitis, etc. that are COMMON amongst heavy drinkers in their 40's.
I have tried many other things to end depression….or to quit drinking…nothing works really…only alcohol works…so if I am always enjoying it…might as well do it all the time….provided I eat, drink water and sleep right…
Originally Posted By robreynolds1234⏩
For many in a similar cohort as me, there's a sense of invincibility that comes with a certain level of success, and perhaps an "I've accomplished this, so clearly I've got everything under control".
But that's what people do when they are highly successful, they turn to life of alcohol and drugs and lose much of what they had? Little bit turns into too much? Too much is addictive? All goes wrong at some point? Even that fear makes you wanna drink regularly? I feel I have nothing to lose or gain after the age of 35…just gotta live by for now…but I don't think how I can do it without alcohol..
But no, the vast majority of people that are successful continue to do the things that made them successful in regards to drive, discipline, and do not abuse substances. They remain ambitious and apply the free time financial independence gives to their family, volunteering, new business ventures, vacationing, mentoring, things that drive real purpose.
Generally from my own observations, successful people that get overcome by alcohol have had this developing, but it wasn't significant to get in the way of operating. Eventually a time comes when it begins to have a serious impact, and people can skate on thin ice for years, but due to the progressivity of the disease the ice gets thinner and the skater gets heavier, and when the ice finally breaks it can mean losing family, home, career all in short order. In the case of untouchables like the very wealthy, its health.
The malaise I felt about life that alcohol temporarily helped me escaped from was only made worse due to drinking. The blinders go on, the malaise gets worse, it becomes depression. Vicious cycle with a downward spiral.
Goals and purpose are a strong direction in life, alcohol slowly erodes goals and purpose. Baseline happiness declines, a sense of what is the point sets in, then once the physical aspect of alcohol abuse sets in, it gets ugly very fast.
03-04-2024, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted By Arem24⏩
Each alcoholic to their own, but I think I was suffering from depression before I started drinking alcohol. At times I hit a very low point, when I felt enough was enough and that's when I decided to try alcohol….and so it was so fun that it completely erased my depressed for few hours or a couple of days…so I asked myself why not keep on doing it….and it's working well with me since 2007…(but I won't say I was always a regular drinker)…
It's progressive for many, and that haze alcohol provides becomes a blindfold. The physical effects get worse. At 32 I never considered seizures or DT's a risk. Fast forward one year, and it was a legitimate concern after a slip and a weekend of heavy drinking. Not to mention issues like pancreatitis, etc. that are COMMON amongst heavy drinkers in their 40's.
For many in a similar cohort as me, there's a sense of invincibility that comes with a certain level of success, and perhaps an "I've accomplished this, so clearly I've got everything under control".
But no, the vast majority of people that are successful continue to do the things that made them successful in regards to drive, discipline, and do not abuse substances. Generally from my own observations, successful people that get overcome by alcohol have had this developing, but it wasn't significant to get in the way of operating. Eventually a time comes when it begins to have a serious impact, and people can skate on thin ice for years, but due to the progressivity of the disease the ice gets thinner and the skater gets heavier, and when the ice finally breaks it can mean losing family, home, career all in short order. In the case of untouchables like the very wealthy, its health.
The malaise I felt about life that alcohol temporarily helped me escaped from was only made worse due to drinking. The blinders go on, the malaise gets worse, it becomes depression. Vicious cycle with a downward spiral.
For many in a similar cohort as me, there's a sense of invincibility that comes with a certain level of success, and perhaps an "I've accomplished this, so clearly I've got everything under control".
But no, the vast majority of people that are successful continue to do the things that made them successful in regards to drive, discipline, and do not abuse substances. Generally from my own observations, successful people that get overcome by alcohol have had this developing, but it wasn't significant to get in the way of operating. Eventually a time comes when it begins to have a serious impact, and people can skate on thin ice for years, but due to the progressivity of the disease the ice gets thinner and the skater gets heavier, and when the ice finally breaks it can mean losing family, home, career all in short order. In the case of untouchables like the very wealthy, its health.
The malaise I felt about life that alcohol temporarily helped me escaped from was only made worse due to drinking. The blinders go on, the malaise gets worse, it becomes depression. Vicious cycle with a downward spiral.
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03-04-2024, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted By Arem24⏩
I honestly don't understand how much some of you have to be drinking to get to this stage. We must be talking "Intervention" levels of alcoholism here. I love booze yet I've never experienced seizures, etc. Not even when mixed with pepsi. Bad hangovers, unproductive days, regrets, sure. But never what you described.
It's a thief.
Former rugby player, frat guy, etc., I've been around the drinking block a few times. Even the heavier drinking non-alcoholic friends lose a lot as the years go by. It's not pretty seeing a 50 year old heavy drinker, even if it hasn't taken over their lives.
35 and already have a longer list than I should of friends lost due to alcohol. Not to even get into what I allowed alcohol to take away from me, and I am still scraping tooth, nail, and claw to get back.
I was a legitimate millionaire in my late twenties. Two successful businesses, successful career, dating news anchors, 8/10 doctors, bought luxury cars cash, etc. Vacation condo, property rentals, 3.9 GPA in my MBA program. IRA, pension, 401ks.
Still have the IRAs and 401ks, but most of the above was lost. The nightmares of seizures, DT's hospitalizations, etc. is over in sobriety, but the road back to be established is a long and hard one.
For the non-alcoholic yeah, it can work as a crutch temporarily, but it's a dangerous road. Drinking rarely ever solved the underlying issues. Just kicked them down the road and gave the problem a shot of OJ.
Former rugby player, frat guy, etc., I've been around the drinking block a few times. Even the heavier drinking non-alcoholic friends lose a lot as the years go by. It's not pretty seeing a 50 year old heavy drinker, even if it hasn't taken over their lives.
35 and already have a longer list than I should of friends lost due to alcohol. Not to even get into what I allowed alcohol to take away from me, and I am still scraping tooth, nail, and claw to get back.
I was a legitimate millionaire in my late twenties. Two successful businesses, successful career, dating news anchors, 8/10 doctors, bought luxury cars cash, etc. Vacation condo, property rentals, 3.9 GPA in my MBA program. IRA, pension, 401ks.
Still have the IRAs and 401ks, but most of the above was lost. The nightmares of seizures, DT's hospitalizations, etc. is over in sobriety, but the road back to be established is a long and hard one.
For the non-alcoholic yeah, it can work as a crutch temporarily, but it's a dangerous road. Drinking rarely ever solved the underlying issues. Just kicked them down the road and gave the problem a shot of OJ.
03-04-2024, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted By robreynolds1234⏩
I'm definitely not qualified to determine whether anyone is an alcoholic, but the issue of pre-existing depression is common. There are some common similarities in alcoholics. Some genetic pre-disposition, and some form of trauma or underlying depression, etc. The things that are not similar is that alcoholics come in all shapes, sizes, professions. Throw a stone and there's a rehab center with doctors and gas station workers, rich and poor, handsome and plain.
Each alcoholic to their own, but I think I was suffering from depression before I started drinking alcohol. At times I hit a very low point, when I felt enough was enough and that's when I decided to try alcohol….and so it was so fun that it completely erased my depressed for few hours or a couple of days…so I asked myself why not keep on doing it….and it's working well with me since 2007…(but I won't say I was always a regular drinker)…
Alcohol works temporarily to "manage" depression, but in many heavy consumption leads to a similar end of the road. Luckily for some, they find the off-ramp.
03-04-2024, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted By Rebel012⏩
Usually those that drink hard liquor by the bottle. I've been drinking regularly for over a decade and have never experienced any of that either
I honestly don't understand how much some of you have to be drinking to get to this stage. We must be talking "Intervention" levels of alcoholism here. I love booze yet I've never experienced seizures, etc. Not even when mixed with pepsi. Bad hangovers, unproductive days, regrets, sure. But never what you described.
But I also pace myself and never go full retard with it
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