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03-04-2024, 02:54 PM
#1
Why is child labor allowed on farms in the US?
Money is why it is legal, I mean what kind of man and woman could look at themselves in the face knowing they have destroyed their child’s lives?
How could a parent put a young teen in those conditions at all let alone for that long every day?
Like I am five and have an extra chromosome please.
I mean a real ****ing piece of **** right?
How could a parent put a young teen in those conditions at all let alone for that long every day?
Like I am five and have an extra chromosome please.
I mean a real ****ing piece of **** right?
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03-04-2024, 02:56 PM
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03-04-2024, 03:02 PM
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The Austrians make a good case for this.
1. Who are YOU to decide that they shouldn’t? Is it better for the child not to work if it means no food on the table? Not everyone makes enough money to be able to afford the children not working. Is it better to have children starve? For a family to lose their children because they can’t provide?
2. They are learning a trade that can better the child and the country.
3. You cannot know the needs and wants of the individual. Every family and individual is in a unique situation that cannot be judged based on a lack of information. By preventing the child from working, it is likely to cause more harm to that child and family than good.
Of course, that’s the entire problem with socialism. An arbitrary regulation, law, or control without knowing and understanding each individual.
1. Who are YOU to decide that they shouldn’t? Is it better for the child not to work if it means no food on the table? Not everyone makes enough money to be able to afford the children not working. Is it better to have children starve? For a family to lose their children because they can’t provide?
2. They are learning a trade that can better the child and the country.
3. You cannot know the needs and wants of the individual. Every family and individual is in a unique situation that cannot be judged based on a lack of information. By preventing the child from working, it is likely to cause more harm to that child and family than good.
Of course, that’s the entire problem with socialism. An arbitrary regulation, law, or control without knowing and understanding each individual.
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03-04-2024, 03:08 PM
#4
Yeah it’s bullchit
Labor laws for kids should be the same across industries
Growing up on a farm was great but it was a family side project with my mom and me and my sister so just cleaning chicken coop, selling eggs, selling pumpkins, raising rabbits/quail, stuff like that. That kind of an experience is great, but having 12 year olds pulling long shifts wageslaving in a monstrous field and a massive operation with never ending work is pretty fuked. Especially cuz probably forced into doing it.
Labor laws for kids should be the same across industries
Growing up on a farm was great but it was a family side project with my mom and me and my sister so just cleaning chicken coop, selling eggs, selling pumpkins, raising rabbits/quail, stuff like that. That kind of an experience is great, but having 12 year olds pulling long shifts wageslaving in a monstrous field and a massive operation with never ending work is pretty fuked. Especially cuz probably forced into doing it.
03-04-2024, 03:08 PM
#5
Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
If a child is required to do that for survival the parents have not met the standard for minimal care and the child should be removed from the dangerous house. The child is not the answer.
The Austrians make a good case for this.
1. Who are YOU to decide that they shouldn’t? Is it better for the child not to work if it means no food on the table? Not everyone makes enough money to be able to afford the children not working. Is it better to have children starve? For a family to lose their children because they can’t provide?
2. They are learning a trade that can better the child and the country.
3. You cannot know the needs and wants of the individual. Every family and individual is in a unique situation that cannot be judged based on a lack of information. By preventing the child from working, it is likely to cause more harm to that child and family than good.
Of course, that’s the entire problem with socialism. An arbitrary regulation, law, or control without knowing and understanding each individual.
1. Who are YOU to decide that they shouldn’t? Is it better for the child not to work if it means no food on the table? Not everyone makes enough money to be able to afford the children not working. Is it better to have children starve? For a family to lose their children because they can’t provide?
2. They are learning a trade that can better the child and the country.
3. You cannot know the needs and wants of the individual. Every family and individual is in a unique situation that cannot be judged based on a lack of information. By preventing the child from working, it is likely to cause more harm to that child and family than good.
Of course, that’s the entire problem with socialism. An arbitrary regulation, law, or control without knowing and understanding each individual.
Holy **** at submitting that bull**** as a legitimate response.
Again, legalities aside, as a man tell me it is okay for your son to have to pick up your slack. I would ashamed of myself.
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03-04-2024, 03:08 PM
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It was pretty normal throughout mankind until the last few decades. I think the hundreds of years of it shows there's way more pros than cons. (Super Ded fkn Srs)
03-04-2024, 03:10 PM
#7
Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
Austrians don’t let kids work until 15
The Austrians make a good case for this.
1. Who are YOU to decide that they shouldn’t? Is it better for the child not to work if it means no food on the table? Not everyone makes enough money to be able to afford the children not working. Is it better to have children starve? For a family to lose their children because they can’t provide?
2. They are learning a trade that can better the child and the country.
3. You cannot know the needs and wants of the individual. Every family and individual is in a unique situation that cannot be judged based on a lack of information. By preventing the child from working, it is likely to cause more harm to that child and family than good.
Of course, that’s the entire problem with socialism. An arbitrary regulation, law, or control without knowing and understanding each individual.
1. Who are YOU to decide that they shouldn’t? Is it better for the child not to work if it means no food on the table? Not everyone makes enough money to be able to afford the children not working. Is it better to have children starve? For a family to lose their children because they can’t provide?
2. They are learning a trade that can better the child and the country.
3. You cannot know the needs and wants of the individual. Every family and individual is in a unique situation that cannot be judged based on a lack of information. By preventing the child from working, it is likely to cause more harm to that child and family than good.
Of course, that’s the entire problem with socialism. An arbitrary regulation, law, or control without knowing and understanding each individual.
Us labor laws have exemption for farm work for 12 year olds, let 16 year olds operate heavy machinery and go on roofs with no safety required.
03-04-2024, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted By gmenfan40⏩
All child labor laws are relatively recent.
It was pretty normal throughout mankind until the last few decades. I think the hundreds of years of it shows there's way more pros than cons. (Super Ded fkn Srs)
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03-04-2024, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet⏩
BRB, not letting my Kidd mow the grass, empty the dishwasher, clean the house, feed the dogs, cut wood…mah child labor!!!
If a child is required to do that for survival the parents have not met the standard for minimal care and the child should be removed from the dangerous house. The child is not the answer.
Holy **** at submitting that bull**** as a legitimate response.
Again, legalities aside, as a man tell me it is okay for your son to have to pick up your slack. I would ashamed of myself.
Holy **** at submitting that bull**** as a legitimate response.
Again, legalities aside, as a man tell me it is okay for your son to have to pick up your slack. I would ashamed of myself.
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Hayek and Mises were right; they're all socialists.
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03-04-2024, 03:13 PM
#10
Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
Austrian economists who analyzed this subject. Should have specified.
Austrians don’t let kids work until 15
Us labor laws have exemption for farm work for 12 year olds, let 16 year olds operate heavy machinery and go on roofs with no safety required.
Us labor laws have exemption for farm work for 12 year olds, let 16 year olds operate heavy machinery and go on roofs with no safety required.
In recent years it hasn’t been as much of an issue, but according to you, poor people shouldn’t have kids at all. Erm, that’s getting pretty close to being a dangerous ideology, like eugenics.
You’re making the assumption that work messes kids up. What evidence do you have to support this?
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03-04-2024, 03:15 PM
#11
Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
Ironmanlet is retarded, he even claimed his extra chromosome in the OP. No reason to waste energy trying to convince him of anything
Austrian economists who analyzed this subject. Should have specified.
In recent years it hasn’t been as much of an issue, but according to you, poor people shouldn’t have kids at all. Erm, that’s getting pretty close to being a dangerous ideology, like eugenics.
In recent years it hasn’t been as much of an issue, but according to you, poor people shouldn’t have kids at all. Erm, that’s getting pretty close to being a dangerous ideology, like eugenics.
03-04-2024, 03:17 PM
#12
Originally Posted By Ironmanlet⏩
You remind me of the elite cucks from Demolition Man.
Money is why it is legal, I mean what kind of man and woman could look at themselves in the face knowing they have destroyed their child’s lives?
How could a parent put a young teen in those conditions at all let alone for that long every day?
Like I am five and have an extra chromosome please.
I mean a real ****ing piece of **** right?
How could a parent put a young teen in those conditions at all let alone for that long every day?
Like I am five and have an extra chromosome please.
I mean a real ****ing piece of **** right?
OIF/OEF and youre making this thread..lol.. Trolling/10.
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03-04-2024, 03:21 PM
#13
Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
What are you on about? I’ve worked in kitchens since I was 15, I’m fine with kids working, I don’t think we should have 10 year olds working in fields cuz no ID is required for 12 year olds to work in certain states. As long as dad signed off it’s ok.
Austrian economists who analyzed this subject. Should have specified.
In recent years it hasn’t been as much of an issue, but according to you, poor people shouldn’t have kids at all. Erm, that’s getting pretty close to being a dangerous ideology, like eugenics.
You’re making the assumption that work messes kids up. What evidence do you have to support this?
In recent years it hasn’t been as much of an issue, but according to you, poor people shouldn’t have kids at all. Erm, that’s getting pretty close to being a dangerous ideology, like eugenics.
You’re making the assumption that work messes kids up. What evidence do you have to support this?
They just need to bring things in line with current child labor laws, if you want to make an argument for lowering it that’s fine, but I think current welfare program could instead change to incentivizing and rewarding good grades and school attendance with stricter expectations at school for kids under 14 and let family’s that can’t raise productive children fend for themselves then crackdown on crime and yes society would be much better.
03-04-2024, 03:25 PM
#14
Originally Posted By BullittEV⏩
Would you like to try to address the topic?
You remind me of the elite cucks from Demolition Man.
OIF/OEF and youre making this thread..lol.. Trolling/10.
OIF/OEF and youre making this thread..lol.. Trolling/10.
I only read thread titles and my own posts.
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03-04-2024, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted By Ironmanlet⏩
I was, then realized you were trolling. Did you read the Trolling/10 part of my post?
Would you like to try to address the topic?
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03-04-2024, 03:28 PM
#16
Originally Posted By Duckliver⏩
My apologies. I thought I was replying to Ironmanlet and addressing several points.
What are you on about? I’ve worked in kitchens since I was 15, I’m fine with kids working, I don’t think we should have 10 year olds working in fields cuz no ID is required for 12 year olds to work in certain states. As long as dad signed off it’s ok.
They just need to bring things in line with current child labor laws, if you want to make an argument for lowering it that’s fine, but I think current welfare program could instead change to incentivizing and rewarding good grades and school attendance with stricter expectations at school for kids under 14 and let family’s that can’t raise productive children fend for themselves then crackdown on crime and yes society would be much better.
They just need to bring things in line with current child labor laws, if you want to make an argument for lowering it that’s fine, but I think current welfare program could instead change to incentivizing and rewarding good grades and school attendance with stricter expectations at school for kids under 14 and let family’s that can’t raise productive children fend for themselves then crackdown on crime and yes society would be much better.
I am def not for more regulations/socialist policies. It’s a recipe for disaster.
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03-04-2024, 03:30 PM
#17
Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
I think changing what’s currently a purely socialist system that even rewards family splitting up into one that’s merit based and rewards positive family behavior only is at least a step in the right direction.
My apologies. I thought I was replying to Ironmanlet and addressing several points.
I am def not for more regulations/socialist policies. It’s a recipe for disaster.
I am def not for more regulations/socialist policies. It’s a recipe for disaster.
Going full cold turkey could overwhelm law enforcement imo
03-05-2024, 02:32 AM
#18
Originally Posted By Kraken⏩
I’m not talking about chores Neanderthal.
BRB, not letting my Kidd mow the grass, empty the dishwasher, clean the house, feed the dogs, cut wood…mah child labor!!!
I am talking about 15 year olds working 16 hours a day, every day, in dangerous conditions with zero legal protection afforded to conventional employees.
I only read thread titles and my own posts.
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03-05-2024, 02:51 AM
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I'm PRO child labor, in many cases its the best option for the child and family. …IMO child labor laws are to force poor kids into worthless schools for indoctrination.
Kids gonna learn a lot more in the actual workforce that matters then they will in todays ****ty schools.
Child Labor is a good thing
Kids gonna learn a lot more in the actual workforce that matters then they will in todays ****ty schools.
Child Labor is a good thing
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03-05-2024, 09:16 AM
#20
Originally Posted By Ironmanlet⏩
How often do you think this happens in the US? Give me a statistic or a number indicating its severity. What are their outcomes? What are their alternatives?
I’m not talking about chores Neanderthal.
I am talking about 15 year olds working 16 hours a day, every day, in dangerous conditions with zero legal protection afforded to conventional employees.
I am talking about 15 year olds working 16 hours a day, every day, in dangerous conditions with zero legal protection afforded to conventional employees.
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03-05-2024, 09:27 AM
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That's why the people you support are importing 3rd world children to work for big factories/companies, dumbass iron
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03-05-2024, 10:11 AM
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if their working on the farm their learning to survive without good old daddy government. there getting sun and proper nutritious food. they are not on phones all day long learning how to turn themselves into a trans and selling there bodies or watching porn. they build muscle and learn how to take care of there family when they get older. by 15 a farmer kid knows more then you know at age 40 lmao pathetic. when they do get a wife/husband their disciplined and reasonable. op is retarded from all the radiation he gets jerkin off. plus kids love doing stuff with animals, digging, and planting ****. they could save up enough money to start there own farm before 18 or have a banging truck before sixteen. every aspect is better if the parents are reasonable.
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03-05-2024, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted By YouSmokeToMuch⏩
Do they learn how much daddy government subsidizes their farm?
if their working on the farm their learning to survive without good old daddy government. there getting sun and proper nutritious food. they are not on phones all day long learning how to turn themselves into a trans and selling there bodies or watching porn. they build muscle and learn how to take care of there family when they get older. by 15 a farmer kid knows more then you know at age 40 lmao pathetic. when they do get a wife/husband their disciplined and reasonable. op is retarded from all the radiation he gets jerkin off. plus kids love doing stuff with animals, digging, and planting ****. they could save up enough money to start there own farm before 18 or have a banging truck before sixteen. every aspect is better if the parents are reasonable.
03-05-2024, 01:12 PM
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every kid i knew that grew up working on a farm also got shipped out to college 100% paid for by their loaded parents once they turned 18
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03-05-2024, 01:17 PM
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Got through like 6 comments and realized most miscers are softer than baby chit. OP you're lucky I don't phyiscally come pick you up and put you to work with one of my construction crews ya fukin midget.
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03-05-2024, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted By gmenfan40⏩
Puts hair on your chest and makes your balls drop. Neither may not have happened to the OP.
It was pretty normal throughout mankind until the last few decades. I think the hundreds of years of it shows there's way more pros than cons. (Super Ded fkn Srs)
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