How embarrassed are mma brahs after last night? Your poster boy brained by an absolute bum! Srs I could have done better than that

Joshua isn't even a boxer, he's a bodybuilder. Broootal

Chang's Gospel is spreading.

GLORIOUS.

MMA bums need to stick to their barbaric cage fighting making 25 dollars to show, 200 dollar bonus to win paychecks.

Leave the real prizefighting to genetic freaks in boxing.

"muh kicks, muh butterfly guard, muh takedowns" are all COPE ROFL.

Lmao you know you're my boy chang, but obviously kicks and butterfly guard and takedowns were not allowed. In a real fight Ngannou destroys Joshua and you know this. No one who knows anything about boxing actually thought Ngannou was going to do well against Joshua.

You ever see what happens when a boxer is taken to the ground? They're like a turtle on its back.

you're employing such an asinine and fallacious reasoning to cope with your bias for MMA.

Of course Ngannou would beat AJ in an MMA match. AJ has never trained MMA in his entire life. He's dedicated his whole life to boxing, a sport which pays 20 to 50 million, and even 100 million A FIGHT.

Why on Earth do MMA guys continue to brag about how MMA guys would beat them in a "real fight"? It's such an embarrassing and meathead form of cope. It's completely illogical. Why do you hold it against boxers for not training in MMA, a sport they had no interest in and/or will never pay them the same amount?

The logical, rational, and sane argument should be:

"given the same amount of time and dedication to training MMA, would AJ (and top tier boxers in general) beat an MMA champion at MMA?"

And, of course, the only logically consistent answer to that question is HIGHLY LIKELY. Why? Because given that we know boxing has factually a far deeper talent pool, the athletes that can excel to the top level of boxing, would only logically and consistently also excel at MMA, a sport that is 95% similar to it.

If Francis Ngannou, in only 3-5(?) years of training MMA is able to become champion, why on Earth wouldn't a genetic freak like AJ, Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder, be able to achieve the same, if not MORE, given the same amount of time and dedication to the sport of MMA? But, as it is, they have absolutely zero reason to, given that they can make literally 50x more money in boxing vs MMA.

MMA guys have been wrong every step of the way these past 10 years on their misplace superiority complex. Their biggest cope they cling on to is this romanticized idea that they are the only ones capable of "real fighting" and that no other combat athletes from any other sport can somehow learn this mythical "real fighting" art.

MMA guys always brag about being well rounded, but what good is "well rounded" when you realize that a Youtuber (Paul) has superior boxing to an MMA champion (Woodley, Askren, Anderson Silva)? If the boxing in MMA is that bad, then one has to ask, what other aspect of their game is also that bad?

Well roundedness means absolutely nothing if you're absolute below average at every aspect of MMA.

Absolute genetic abominations like Tim Sylvia, Roy Nelson, Derrick Lewis, Sean Strickland, Stipe Miocic, Rich Franklin, Chuck Liddell, can become world class MMA champion. Yet we are led to believe by MMA fanboys that there's no way a prime Mike Tyson, Roy Jones, Manny Pacquaio, Marvin Hagler, etc/, etc., wouldn't have absolutely conquered the world of MMA had they started with MMA as a kid, or MMA had been popular at the time.

Look what Vitor Belfort did when he burst onto the MMA scene back in the day. There's a reason why Bruce Lee was so influenced by Western Boxing and why it was such a heavy influence in his study of Martial Arts.

there is nothing GAYer than a LARGE man dropping to his knees for a takedown because he's too chicken to ManUP StandUP. Boxing has MASCULINE MACHISMO and why Boxing Movies like Rocky had a kind of Cinematic Magic

You went way over extraneously with that, as expected lol. I never said Anthony Joshua wouldn't do well in mma haha.

I was just responding to your little quip. But just to annoy you lol - regardless of hypotheticals Anthony Joshua would get his wig split and his cheeks clapped within 2 min of a real fight with Ngannou as this stand currently. I also am not convinced Anthony Joshua would beat Ngannou after the same amount of MMA training that Ngannou has received, not all explosive athletes are good at wrestling or have genetically strong gas tanks.

There are many examples of why boxing is the clear cut most important aspect of MMA.

Look at GSP. He become near unbeatable all because he devleoped an effect jab to go along with his wrestling. He completely neutralized and brutalized Josh Koscheck and Jon Fitch, all because his wrestling was good enough to cancels theirs, but their boxing was so trash they ate vicious jabs all night long.

Look at McGregor. Dude was training to be a boxer right up until he was 16. There's story about how he was poor, on welfare, struggling with his girl, so he took up MMA to make money. Fast forward a few years and he's two weightclass champion, just lighting up these MMA manlets because of his understanding of reach and boxing.

Look at Ngannou. Again, training to be a boxer. His friend supposedly told him about MMA, and how it's filled with bums, and he can easily become champion and leave dat salt mine life behind. Fast forward a few years of training basic takedown defense, leg kick defense (he doesn't even check leg kicks ROFL), and he's the most feared and destructive HW Champion in history.

Look at Jon Jones. The only time he got beat up and came close to losing was vs that lanklet nordcuck bum Gustaffson. A YMCA level boxer gave Jon Jones FITS and busted his lips wide open, all because Gustaffson was similar in size and employed basic ass boxing.

Look at Sean Strickland. This skinny fat reject used the most basic ass philly shell defense and straight up WALKED DOWN Izzy and beat him up with basic ass boxing LMAO.

Yet, somehow, MMA guys want you to believe that actual genetic freaks and physical talents like Canelo, AJ, Fury, Triple G, Mayweather, could NEVER become MMA champion in similar time frame of MMA training.

MMA fans are truly delusional.

low IQ neanderthal misc —->

Nah dagestani wrestlers show that wrestling/threat of takedown is the lynchpin not boxing. Any average muay thai fighter will beat the average boxer in a fight.

The only loss of Islam Makhachev career came from getting his clock CLEANED due to his chit boxing, chasing the opponent, and getting desperate for a takedown, and then running into a counter right hand.

Who did he get brutally KO'd by? A no name bum Adriano Martins, who would go on to lose 5 straight up KOing Islam.

Manny Pacquaio with 6 months of wrestling and takedown defense KO's the entire country of Dagestan. No hairy norwood0 mountain monkey Dagestani is surviving that Manilla Ice.

MMA is for savages. There is a reason the military and police don't really give a chit to train MMA. Because if you have a gun, it is mostly pointless. A frail elderly woman with a pistol could defeat the strongest MMA fighter. It's just pointless ego dick measuring, and these idiots suffer brain damage every single time they step in the octagon.

All the more reason why "real fighting" is such a silly and arbitrary measure.

Who gets to define what real fighting is? If your definition of "real fighting" is that you employ more tools, then yes, MMA is more "real fighting" than boxing. But then again, the guy who uses a gun, a knife, a shank, a baseball bat, well, he's employing even MORE tools than you with your knees, kicks, and elbows. So is the random degen on the street that's willing to cut your neck open with a knife more of a "real fighter"?

So, by that definition, is the apex fighter in society the one who uses the gun from 50 feet away? He's the real fighter, because you're dead, and he's alive, and all your martial arts training meant fukk all in the face of a glock.

A5 COPE.

Yes. The random degen who would murder you is more of a real fighter. The apex fighter was Joseph Stalin. Today, it is Joe Biden. Biden basically plays necro class. He commands a huge army of bodies and equipment that can kill the most people. Therefore, he is the apex fighter.

Lmao at hairy Norwood 0 dagestani

Joshua handled Ngonnau like Jake Paul would handle 99.9999% of the misc lmao

People always say, well if the boxer fought under MMA rules he’d lose. There’s been plenty of MMA fights were an inferior striker is KOd by a respectable striker trying desperately to get the fight to the floor.

More importantly, MMA doesn’t have the cash flow that boxing does. Francis maxed out in the UFC at 600k, while being the apex predator in the most exciting weight class. Dana white is a ripoff artist, and everyone knows it. Francis then made $12 million to fight Fury who hadn’t even trained, and lost by being outboxed, then made at least $20 million to get schooled by an opponent who didn’t overlook him.

Also OP stop trolling. You’d probably get dropped by middleweight women boxers.

I dont agree that its for guys who have failed at everything else.

always assumed it was for guys who just seem to want to rub themselves on other guys.

Christ, you're beyond upset…..

MMA guys are SUPPOSED to be able to box. Boxers aren’t supposed to know how to wrestle

The talent pool in mma has been exposed as tiny and bottom tier

He gets really mad about MMA. Like you and the shots, trannies, blacks, or Israel.

Word

Yes Wincel, we all know how you would ban MMA if you were in charge, it's too violent, just like GOT…… ****ing pussy

Joseph Stalin, the manlet who wore lifts, bow legged, webbed feet, pock marked face, one hand thinner than the other, was an Apex predator???

That's right Dave.

Society would objectively be better off if it were banned. Srs. Brain damage doesn't help anyone. Tons of MMA people are deranged criminals and low inhib rapists and chit because of brain damage.

Also, banning MMA and taking away guns makes the population more docile and easier to control, Dave.

Tons of sports, cause brain damage you stupid ****, we've been over this already. You gonna ban soccer as well?

More like someone who looks like an abortion survivor. Shocked he never offed himself, over being so deformed.

AJ had to fight an MMA fighter because he was too scared to face a real HW boxer named Fury. Boxing is carried on the backs of 2 YouTube stars (Paul brothers), boxing hasn't been relevant sine Lennox Lewis was champ.

Maybe. But it's a lot less severe than football and MMA. Stop crying, Dave. I know you love giving kids brain damage. It gives you someone to arrest later.