03-12-2024, 04:33 PM
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Massie says TikTok ban is Trojan horse
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03-12-2024, 04:42 PM
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03-12-2024, 04:42 PM
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Nancy Pelosi at 5:00
This alone lets you know the legislation is a bad idea
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03-12-2024, 04:54 PM
#4
Originally Posted By TheGeneralL33⏩
Not today Wang. We're shutting down your gay app.
If you want to ban TikTok have at it.
Don't word the legislation so you can take over Twitter, and Truth social, content
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03-12-2024, 05:13 PM
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It would be great if (for once) politicians made a law just to help Americans. No other purpose, just that.
I don't think it happens anymore.
I don't think it happens anymore.
03-12-2024, 05:19 PM
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03-12-2024, 05:23 PM
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If this has the possibility of banning Truth Social I'm all for it.
Same with X or whatever incel shyt Musk came up with.
I don't use any of those apps.
Same with X or whatever incel shyt Musk came up with.
I don't use any of those apps.
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03-12-2024, 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
I don't think that's on the table. They're discussing apps/websites where the data is hosted with an adversary.
If this has the possibility of banning Truth Social I'm all for it.
Same with X or whatever incel shyt Musk came up with.
I don't use any of those apps.
Same with X or whatever incel shyt Musk came up with.
I don't use any of those apps.
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03-12-2024, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted By GreatOldOne⏩
A foreign adversary?
I don't think that's on the table. They're discussing apps/websites where the data is hosted with an adversary.
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03-12-2024, 06:00 PM
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03-12-2024, 06:03 PM
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Can anyone explain why we want the government to have this kind of power???
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03-12-2024, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Tbh I don't fully understand the bill
Can anyone explain why we want the government to have this kind of power???
If massie hates it - that worries me - add elon in addition
….
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03-12-2024, 06:06 PM
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Just shut down all internet access on Cell Phones… Case closed
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03-12-2024, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
Lol
A foreign adversary?
Actually, I haven't read it but I heard on the radio discussion that it was links to a foreign adversaries government…
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03-12-2024, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted By GreatOldOne⏩
I've read it one full-time and skimmed it over a second trying to understand it.
Lol
Actually, I haven't read it but I heard on the radio discussion that it was links to a foreign adversaries government…
Actually, I haven't read it but I heard on the radio discussion that it was links to a foreign adversaries government…
It's confusing and seems to be very open-ended
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03-12-2024, 06:12 PM
#16
Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
I think the assumption is that the adversary government is going to be doing something bad with the data. Mining it for intelligence, info for blackmail. And using it to feed machine learning/ai in ways that can be weaponized against our population…
Tbh I don't fully understand the bill
If massie hates it - that worries me - add elon in addition
….
If massie hates it - that worries me - add elon in addition
….
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03-12-2024, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
That's what I mean, this isn't in our best interest, and the last thing we need to do, is give them this kind of power.
I've read it one full-time and skimmed it over a second trying to understand it.
It's confusing and seems to be very open-ended
It's confusing and seems to be very open-ended
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03-12-2024, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted By GreatOldOne⏩
It looks like you could take someone who uses offshore web hosting and wreck them
I think the assumption is that the adversary government is going to be doing something bad with the data. Mining it for intelligence, info for blackmail. And using it to feed machine learning/ai in ways that can be weaponized against our population…
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03-12-2024, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
If the servers were in say China, Iran, NK, Cuba, Syria, Russia…then yeah. The point would be to make them sell to a neutral party or an ally.
It looks like you could take someone who uses offshore web hosting and wreck them
I'm surprised they have the foresight to consider how an enemy could perfect social engineering campaigns through collecting this data and using ai/ml.
Idk maybe they don't and just hate their teenagers looking at tik tok.
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03-12-2024, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted By GreatOldOne⏩
Who decides who the adversary is?
If the servers were in say China, Iran, NK, Cuba, Syria, Russia…then yeah. The point would be to make them sell to a neutral party or an ally.
I'm surprised they have the foresight to consider how an enemy could perfect social engineering campaigns through collecting this data and using ai/ml.
Idk maybe they don't and just hate their teenagers looking at tik tok.
I'm surprised they have the foresight to consider how an enemy could perfect social engineering campaigns through collecting this data and using ai/ml.
Idk maybe they don't and just hate their teenagers looking at tik tok.
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03-12-2024, 06:25 PM
#21
Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
If this has the possibility of banning Truth Social I'm all for it.
Same with X or whatever incel shyt Musk came up with.
I don't use any of those apps.
Same with X or whatever incel shyt Musk came up with.
I don't use any of those apps.
Would you be OK with President Trump having the power of this bill next year?- that can be used on just websites?
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03-12-2024, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
I think it's written in the bill so that would be Congress and the President.
Who decides who the adversary is?
Link to bill…saw on AP it said they create a process for deciding, so idk how it works but will read later.
https://d1dth6e84htgma.cloudfront.ne...a8572d67bb.pdf
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03-12-2024, 06:31 PM
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I trust the Chinese with my data more than I do the USG or US social media platforms these days
They should shut it down because it’s full of whores, but they are shutting it down because kids are asking questions about Jews and they are not being banned or moderated for it
They should shut it down because it’s full of whores, but they are shutting it down because kids are asking questions about Jews and they are not being banned or moderated for it
03-12-2024, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted By GreatOldOne⏩
The US government is just furious that you can discover the truth about this nation's past and find natural herbs and plants remedies for healing
I think the assumption is that the adversary government is going to be doing something bad with the data. Mining it for intelligence, info for blackmail. And using it to feed machine learning/ai in ways that can be weaponized against our population…
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03-12-2024, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted By GreatOldOne⏩
I think it's written in the bill so that would be Congress and the President.
Link to bill…saw on AP it said they create a process for deciding, so idk how it works but will read later.
https://d1dth6e84htgma.cloudfront.ne...a8572d67bb.pdf
Link to bill…saw on AP it said they create a process for deciding, so idk how it works but will read later.
https://d1dth6e84htgma.cloudfront.ne...a8572d67bb.pdf
Act; and
(B) in the case of an application that satisfies the definition of a foreign adversary controlled application pursuant to subsection (g)(3)(B), beginning on the date that is 180 days after the date of the relevant determination of the President under such subsection.
(B) in the case of an application that satisfies the definition of a foreign adversary controlled application pursuant to subsection (g)(3)(B), beginning on the date that is 180 days after the date of the relevant determination of the President under such subsection.
https://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek...%20Updated.pdf
(1) CONTROLLED BY A FOREIGN ADVERSARY.-
The term "controlled by a foreign adversary" means, with respect to a covered company or other entity, that such company or other entity is—
(A) a foreign person that is domiciled in, is headquartered in, has its principal place of business in, or is organized under the laws of a foreign adversary country;
(B) an entity with respect to which a foreign person or combination of foreign persons described in subparagraph (A) directly or indirectly own at least a 20 percent stake; or
(C) a person subject to the direction or control of a foreign person or entity described in subparagraph (A) or (B).
(2) COVERED COMPANY.—
(A) IN GENERAL.-The term "covered company" means an entity that operates, directly or indirectly (including through a parent company, subsidiary, or affiliate), a website, desktop application, mobile application, or augmented or immersive technology application that—
(1) permits a user to create an ac-
count or profile to generate, share, and view text, images, videos, real-time commu-nications, or similar content;
(ii) has more than 1,000,000 monthly active users with respect to at least 2 of the 3 months preceding the date on which a relevant determination of the President
is made pursuant to paragraph (3) (B);
(in) enables 1 or more users to gen-
erate or distribute content that can be
viewed by other users of the website, desktop application, mobile application,
The term "controlled by a foreign adversary" means, with respect to a covered company or other entity, that such company or other entity is—
(A) a foreign person that is domiciled in, is headquartered in, has its principal place of business in, or is organized under the laws of a foreign adversary country;
(B) an entity with respect to which a foreign person or combination of foreign persons described in subparagraph (A) directly or indirectly own at least a 20 percent stake; or
(C) a person subject to the direction or control of a foreign person or entity described in subparagraph (A) or (B).
(2) COVERED COMPANY.—
(A) IN GENERAL.-The term "covered company" means an entity that operates, directly or indirectly (including through a parent company, subsidiary, or affiliate), a website, desktop application, mobile application, or augmented or immersive technology application that—
(1) permits a user to create an ac-
count or profile to generate, share, and view text, images, videos, real-time commu-nications, or similar content;
(ii) has more than 1,000,000 monthly active users with respect to at least 2 of the 3 months preceding the date on which a relevant determination of the President
is made pursuant to paragraph (3) (B);
(in) enables 1 or more users to gen-
erate or distribute content that can be
viewed by other users of the website, desktop application, mobile application,
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03-12-2024, 06:52 PM
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Oh yes - exclusive jurisdiction
(ii) that is determined by the President to present a significant threat to the
national security of the United States following the issuance of—
(I) a public notice proposing such determination; and
(Il) a public report to Congress, submitted not less than 30 days before such determination, describing the specific national security concern involved and containing a classified annex and a description of what as-
sets would need to be divested to exe-
cute a qualified divestiture.
national security of the United States following the issuance of—
(I) a public notice proposing such determination; and
(Il) a public report to Congress, submitted not less than 30 days before such determination, describing the specific national security concern involved and containing a classified annex and a description of what as-
sets would need to be divested to exe-
cute a qualified divestiture.
Code.
(5) INTERNET HOSTING SERVICE.-The term
"internet hosting service" means a service through which storage and computing resources are provided to an individual or organization for the accommodation and maintenance of 1 or more websites or on-
line services, and which may include file hosting, domain name server hosting; cloud hosting, and virtual private server hosting:
(6) QUALIFIED DIVESTITURE.-The term
"qualified divestiture" means a divestiture or similar transaction that—
(A) the President determines, through an interagency process, would result in the relevant foreign adversary controlled application no longer being controlled by a foreign adversary; and
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(B) the President determines, through an interagency process, precludes the establishment or maintenance of any operational relationship between the United States operations of the relevant foreign adversary controlled application and any formerly affiliated entities that are controlled by a foreign adversary, in-
(5) INTERNET HOSTING SERVICE.-The term
"internet hosting service" means a service through which storage and computing resources are provided to an individual or organization for the accommodation and maintenance of 1 or more websites or on-
line services, and which may include file hosting, domain name server hosting; cloud hosting, and virtual private server hosting:
(6) QUALIFIED DIVESTITURE.-The term
"qualified divestiture" means a divestiture or similar transaction that—
(A) the President determines, through an interagency process, would result in the relevant foreign adversary controlled application no longer being controlled by a foreign adversary; and
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(B) the President determines, through an interagency process, precludes the establishment or maintenance of any operational relationship between the United States operations of the relevant foreign adversary controlled application and any formerly affiliated entities that are controlled by a foreign adversary, in-
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(b) EXCLUSIVE JURISDICTION.-The United States
19 Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit shall
20 have exclusive jurisdiction over any challenge to this Act
21 or any action, finding, or determination under this Act.
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(e) STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS.-A challenge may
19 Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit shall
20 have exclusive jurisdiction over any challenge to this Act
21 or any action, finding, or determination under this Act.
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(e) STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS.-A challenge may
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03-12-2024, 06:54 PM
#27
Originally Posted By TheGeneralL33⏩
Who do you think Trump will decide who the adversary is?
Not today Wang. We're shutting down your gay app.
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03-12-2024, 08:26 PM
#28
Originally Posted By OPGenesis⏩
Low iq wigger detected
If this has the possibility of banning Truth Social I'm all for it.
Same with X or whatever incel shyt Musk came up with.
I don't use any of those apps.
Same with X or whatever incel shyt Musk came up with.
I don't use any of those apps.
03-12-2024, 08:31 PM
#29
Originally Posted By gachase21⏩
I wanna that China/Russia/iran and N Korea would be considered that.
Who decides who the adversary is?
The thing is, when the left wants to ban/censor something….its meant to hurt you/me.
That said, you should read Blood Money by Peter Schweitzer, it lays out how the CCP uses TikTok as a trojan horse to destroy America form the inside out…
03-12-2024, 09:06 PM
#30
Originally Posted By RIKTER⏩
Yes China is destroying America with TikTok.
I wanna that China/Russia/iran and N Korea would be considered that.
The thing is, when the left wants to ban/censor something….its meant to hurt you/me.
That said, you should read Blood Money by Peter Schweitzer, it lays out how the CCP uses TikTok as a trojan horse to destroy America form the inside out…
The thing is, when the left wants to ban/censor something….its meant to hurt you/me.
That said, you should read Blood Money by Peter Schweitzer, it lays out how the CCP uses TikTok as a trojan horse to destroy America form the inside out…
Its not the US Government flooding the country with immigrants, refusing to prosecute criminals, never investing in infrastructure or printing trillions to fund foreign wars for bankers and the MIC. Its not that the intelligence agencies are trying to weaponize the internet against its own citizens, or manipulate what information we have access to.
Its whores dancing on TikTok and kids talking about Hitler.
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