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03-13-2024, 01:28 PM
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Is over landing/off road looking vehicles the new Fast and Furious RICE?
20 years ago riced out cars were all the rage. they were buzzing around everywhere with graphics, wheels, body kits, exhaust, some go fast parts, etc.
Fast forward 20 years later and now the same phenomenon has evolved into looking off roady. Every Simple Simon and Basic Becky wants some vehicle that looks off road capable…and perhaps some are but 99% of people just want the "official" look of what they "could" do in their mall crawler.
the more things change the more they stay the same.
Fast forward 20 years later and now the same phenomenon has evolved into looking off roady. Every Simple Simon and Basic Becky wants some vehicle that looks off road capable…and perhaps some are but 99% of people just want the "official" look of what they "could" do in their mall crawler.
the more things change the more they stay the same.
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03-13-2024, 01:44 PM
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At least riced out cars could be a bit of fun on your commute or on the back roads on weekends. These consoomers who spend $50k on a jeep and then another $20k on a pop-up tent and traction mats that they mount on every available square inch of real estate on their vehicle, is just cringe because most of those vehicles never go offroad (to your point).
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03-13-2024, 01:47 PM
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Yes and no, most people modding out their 4runners and jeeps actually have money it seems as opposed to rices being brokies and their cars being junkboxes. The mods aren't always "tasteful", often times these people do have sweet rigs, they just are pavement princesses.
So its moreso a weird flex i guess?
Like hey look at me I have a nice new 4x4 truck with the sickest offroad tires and wheels, a sweet lift and camping accessories but I drive it to the office and camp at a campground twice a year.
Maybe they know normies are seething with jealousy and it makes them feel good.
So its moreso a weird flex i guess?
Like hey look at me I have a nice new 4x4 truck with the sickest offroad tires and wheels, a sweet lift and camping accessories but I drive it to the office and camp at a campground twice a year.
Maybe they know normies are seething with jealousy and it makes them feel good.
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03-13-2024, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted By ChingonGuero⏩
yep. rice got replaced with "rugged" in the consoooomer status symbol war
At least riced out cars could be a bit of fun on your commute or on the back roads on weekends. These consoomers who spend $50k on a jeep and then another $20k on a pop-up tent and traction mats that they mount on every available square inch of real estate on their vehicle, is just cringe because most of those vehicles never go offroad (to your point).
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03-13-2024, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted By viccruise420⏩
naw…see back in the day plenty of people had money but their version of rice was expensive. the modified supras, nsx, type r, 300zx tt, civics and dsms with $50k in mods, etc.
Yes and no, most people modding out their 4runners and jeeps actually have money it seems as opposed to rices being brokies and their cars being junkboxes. The mods aren't always "tasteful", often times these people do have sweet rigs, they just are pavement princesses.
So its moreso a weird flex i guess?
Like hey look at me I have a nice new 4x4 truck with the sickest offroad tires and wheels, a sweet lift and camping accessories but I drive it to the office and camp at a campground twice a year.
Maybe they know normies are seething with jealousy and it makes them feel good.
So its moreso a weird flex i guess?
Like hey look at me I have a nice new 4x4 truck with the sickest offroad tires and wheels, a sweet lift and camping accessories but I drive it to the office and camp at a campground twice a year.
Maybe they know normies are seething with jealousy and it makes them feel good.
the equivalent to that now is your $70-80k broncos, newer lifted trucks, 4runners, tacomas, etc. the people that don't have as much money drive something like a lifted 98 f150 with 240k miles and as much rugged looking accessories as they can afford.
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03-13-2024, 02:05 PM
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You forgot the pic
03-13-2024, 02:12 PM
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Ricers were very cheap cars. Idk how everyone has these massive trucks and SUV's. They cost at least 1k per month to drive.
I think folks do it to feel cool or like they have the biggest ride on the road. Still don't know how they drop 1k on them each month.
I think folks do it to feel cool or like they have the biggest ride on the road. Still don't know how they drop 1k on them each month.
03-13-2024, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted By eod8989⏩
Not necessarily. I had a 1995 Integra in 1999 and that chit was expensive (at the time). Riced that chit up real nice then it got stolen
Ricers were very cheap cars. Idk how everyone has these massive trucks and SUV's. They cost at least 1k per month to drive.
I think folks do it to feel cool or like they have the biggest ride on the road. Still don't know how they drop 1k on them each month.
I think folks do it to feel cool or like they have the biggest ride on the road. Still don't know how they drop 1k on them each month.
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03-13-2024, 02:51 PM
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It's not for overlanding. It's a bug out truck for when the next Civil War kicks off.
03-13-2024, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted By baldbrah⏩
It's not for overlanding. It's a bug out truck for when the next Civil War kicks off.
This.
I've never owned a truck before. AWD racing subaru, yes, but never something that can truly escape a burning down looter hellscape of a city, and go offroad.
I've been building up my bugout kits/survival gear since the 2020 election, and even moreso now that the collapse is getting more and more likely.
So got me an almost new Tacoma. Don't need any fancy redneck giant pick-me-up-truck, just a reliable 4WD truck. Though I did put on like 85,000 lumens worth of lights on it. Nothing more though.
03-13-2024, 03:04 PM
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I put a old man camper shell on my truck and a carpeted bed mat. Slept in the back a half dozen times while parked at the beach or campsite instead of pitching a tent. Keep camping stuff semi-safe and dry during some camping trips and also ski-trips in the snow. However i lol at people who daily drive a truck with a freaking rooftop tent, water tank shower, a refrigerator, and a full camp kitchen always onboard.
EDIT: the only thing i'd replace the camper shell with is a Diamondback tonneau cover for the lockbox security it provides and being able to strap heavy things to the flat top.
EDIT: the only thing i'd replace the camper shell with is a Diamondback tonneau cover for the lockbox security it provides and being able to strap heavy things to the flat top.
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03-13-2024, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted By N0rds⏩
Recently got a 2023 Tacoma and itβs nice to have a 4x4 with a crew cab for the kids. Decent gas mileage and itβs really versatile.
This.
I've never owned a truck before. AWD racing subaru, yes, but never something that can truly escape a burning down looter hellscape of a city, and go offroad.
I've been building up my bugout kits/survival gear since the 2020 election, and even moreso now that the collapse is getting more and more likely.
So got me an almost new Tacoma. Don't need any fancy redneck giant pick-me-up-truck, just a reliable 4WD truck. Though I did put on like 85,000 lumens worth of lights on it. Nothing more though.
I've never owned a truck before. AWD racing subaru, yes, but never something that can truly escape a burning down looter hellscape of a city, and go offroad.
I've been building up my bugout kits/survival gear since the 2020 election, and even moreso now that the collapse is getting more and more likely.
So got me an almost new Tacoma. Don't need any fancy redneck giant pick-me-up-truck, just a reliable 4WD truck. Though I did put on like 85,000 lumens worth of lights on it. Nothing more though.
Watching YouTube videos people do go overboard with mods, but itβs nice to have all the options out there.
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03-13-2024, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell⏩
naw…see back in the day plenty of people had money but their version of rice was expensive. the modified supras, nsx, type r, 300zx tt, civics and dsms with $50k in mods, etc.
the equivalent to that now is your $70-80k broncos, newer lifted trucks, 4runners, tacomas, etc. the people that don't have as much money drive something like a lifted 98 f150 with 240k miles and as much rugged looking accessories as they can afford.
the equivalent to that now is your $70-80k broncos, newer lifted trucks, 4runners, tacomas, etc. the people that don't have as much money drive something like a lifted 98 f150 with 240k miles and as much rugged looking accessories as they can afford.
my friend had a stock 140hp integra, that thing was fun as hell. ricemaxxing didnt have to be expensive.
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03-13-2024, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted By elterrible987⏩
had one of those myself in hs…with the 5spd pretty fun.
my friend had a stock 140hp integra, that thing was fun as hell. ricemaxxing didnt have to be expensive.
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03-13-2024, 03:59 PM
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I would say the diesel boys are modern day ricers.
Big exhausts, LED lights everywhere, wide chrome rims, loud, etc.
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03-13-2024, 04:08 PM
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Disagree op. Every weekend there are tons of jeeps out on the trails here. It is a fukkin blast.
Off roading / mudding is a big fuggin deal here.
Off roading / mudding is a big fuggin deal here.
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03-13-2024, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell⏩
tuners are not "rice"
naw…see back in the day plenty of people had money but their version of rice was expensive. the modified supras, nsx, type r, 300zx tt, civics and dsms with $50k in mods, etc.
the equivalent to that now is your $70-80k broncos, newer lifted trucks, 4runners, tacomas, etc. the people that don't have as much money drive something like a lifted 98 f150 with 240k miles and as much rugged looking accessories as they can afford.
the equivalent to that now is your $70-80k broncos, newer lifted trucks, 4runners, tacomas, etc. the people that don't have as much money drive something like a lifted 98 f150 with 240k miles and as much rugged looking accessories as they can afford.
you're conflating two different aspects of japanese car enthusiasts. Rice is used to describe ****ty little clapped out honda civics, or over-FARKLEd 350zs and the like, etc. Not fuggin supras and pushing +700HP or NSXs that are mint show cars.
To answer your question, yes the overlanders now are just grown up ricers that have money. I'm one of them. The amount of fellow built Tacoma owners I know who also came from a WRX or similar vehicle is unreal.
I actually use my chit compared to a lot of people, and even then I have a lot of extra stuff that isn't really necessary except in the most strenous/specific use cases. But when I can hit a lakebed or dirt "road" on the way home from vegas in the rain and not worry about getting stuck, thereby circumventing 2 extra hours of traffic, I won't hear a single fukin idiot in my truck complaining about the extra chit I've done to it.
Definitely haven't heard a complaint from any of the several people I've pulled out of the dirt with my winch, or helped save with my traction boards. As for fun to drive….idk what that 2nd poster is talking about. Sure maybe they don't handle on rails like a sports car, but it sure puts a smile on my face when I can bomb into a fresh rain-made pothole, hit a dip in the road without slowing, crest a breakover at speed and get a little bit of air, or just enter a driveway without needing to angle the vehicle, all without much concern for any damage to the vehicle.
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03-13-2024, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted By Doober4⏩
Recently got a 2023 Tacoma and itβs nice to have a 4x4 with a crew cab for the kids. Decent gas mileage and itβs really versatile.
Watching YouTube videos people do go overboard with mods, but itβs nice to have all the options out there.
Watching YouTube videos people do go overboard with mods, but itβs nice to have all the options out there.
I could never get anything less than double cab (short bed fine). Need that interior space. Only need bed for hauling my small paramotor.
Either way,
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03-13-2024, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted By Zackad⏩
I have a 4x4 Chevy and a literal ****box 9th gen Corolla with a 5 speed, and I unironically choose to drive the latter option 95% of the time purely based on enjoyment as well as being able to weave in and out of traffic at will vs waiting for 4L60E to decide it feels like downshifting so I can pass the semi truck going 55 mph in the center lane. Not to mention I can drive it like a maniac and get 32 mpg, vs. might as well just light $5 on fire every time I take the highway onramp.
As for fun to drive….idk what that 2nd poster is talking about. Sure maybe they don't handle on rails like a sports car, but it sure puts a smile on my face when I can bomb into a fresh rain-made pothole, hit a dip in the road without slowing, crest a breakover at speed and get a little bit of air, or just enter a driveway without needing to angle the vehicle, all without much concern for any damage to the vehicle.
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03-13-2024, 04:45 PM
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I have a wrangler on 35s
I share it with gf, we take it camping in the summer. Not as much overlanding as I used to.
But it's a great vehicle for the summer. Top off, doors off, can drive onto the beach ez (we live near the shore).
It's neither of our daily drivers so it's nice to have a vehicle we can romp on a bit and not care too much.
It's a cold piece of chit in the winter tho, I don't drive it much during this time. Hard to wanna get in a cold ass jeep I gotta shift with my cold hands versus my subaru that I can stsrt from inside the house and let warm up lol
I treat my jeep like Florida people treat their golf carts. Just use it for whipping around town
I share it with gf, we take it camping in the summer. Not as much overlanding as I used to.
But it's a great vehicle for the summer. Top off, doors off, can drive onto the beach ez (we live near the shore).
It's neither of our daily drivers so it's nice to have a vehicle we can romp on a bit and not care too much.
It's a cold piece of chit in the winter tho, I don't drive it much during this time. Hard to wanna get in a cold ass jeep I gotta shift with my cold hands versus my subaru that I can stsrt from inside the house and let warm up lol
I treat my jeep like Florida people treat their golf carts. Just use it for whipping around town
03-13-2024, 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted By ChingonGuero⏩
I mean…if my options were an auto truck and a manual car, i would choose the manual every time as well lol. Doesn't mean that the truck isn't fun to drive in it's own right, just a different kind of fun. but I ride a motorcycle daily because that's the most fun and i can ignore traffic lol
I have a 4x4 Chevy and a literal ****box 9th gen Corolla with a 5 speed, and I unironically choose to drive the latter option 95% of the time purely based on enjoyment as well as being able to weave in and out of traffic at will vs waiting for 4L60E to decide it feels like downshifting so I can pass the semi truck going 55 mph in the center lane. Not to mention I can drive it like a maniac and get 32 mpg, vs. might as well just light $5 on fire every time I take the highway onramp.
feels on the gas consumption though. another reason i daily a motorcycle lmao
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03-13-2024, 05:44 PM
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The truck that tows my off-road vehicle sees more trails than most of these fukkin overlanding rigs and jeeps.
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03-13-2024, 05:51 PM
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Tacos are not bad vehicles but are hardly "trucks" and always crack me up when people refer to them as "rigs."
Gen 1 raptor gang. Work in an office and jump it on the weekends. Just because people have nice stuff and you don't doesn't make it ricer/cringe/etc.
But there's a LOT of mall crawlers out there so I digress
Gen 1 raptor gang. Work in an office and jump it on the weekends. Just because people have nice stuff and you don't doesn't make it ricer/cringe/etc.
But there's a LOT of mall crawlers out there so I digress
03-13-2024, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted By Zackad⏩
dude i lived my teen years in the peak of the fast and furious years. their were "clean" cars at the top of the pecking order that everyone lusted after but it was all part of the same "ricer" culture. a clean 700+ hp supra could pull into parking lot full of cruisers and he'd "be the man" amongst those that couldn't afford that level.
tuners are not "rice"
you're conflating two different aspects of japanese car enthusiasts. Rice is used to describe ****ty little clapped out honda civics, or over-FARKLEd 350zs and the like, etc. Not fuggin supras and pushing +700HP or NSXs that are mint show cars.
To answer your question, yes the overlanders now are just grown up ricers that have money. I'm one of them. The amount of fellow built Tacoma owners I know who also came from a WRX or similar vehicle is unreal.
I actually use my chit compared to a lot of people, and even then I have a lot of extra stuff that isn't really necessary except in the most strenous/specific use cases. But when I can hit a lakebed or dirt "road" on the way home from vegas in the rain and not worry about getting stuck, thereby circumventing 2 extra hours of traffic, I won't hear a single fukin idiot in my truck complaining about the extra chit I've done to it.
Definitely haven't heard a complaint from any of the several people I've pulled out of the dirt with my winch, or helped save with my traction boards. As for fun to drive….idk what that 2nd poster is talking about. Sure maybe they don't handle on rails like a sports car, but it sure puts a smile on my face when I can bomb into a fresh rain-made pothole, hit a dip in the road without slowing, crest a breakover at speed and get a little bit of air, or just enter a driveway without needing to angle the vehicle, all without much concern for any damage to the vehicle.
you're conflating two different aspects of japanese car enthusiasts. Rice is used to describe ****ty little clapped out honda civics, or over-FARKLEd 350zs and the like, etc. Not fuggin supras and pushing +700HP or NSXs that are mint show cars.
To answer your question, yes the overlanders now are just grown up ricers that have money. I'm one of them. The amount of fellow built Tacoma owners I know who also came from a WRX or similar vehicle is unreal.
I actually use my chit compared to a lot of people, and even then I have a lot of extra stuff that isn't really necessary except in the most strenous/specific use cases. But when I can hit a lakebed or dirt "road" on the way home from vegas in the rain and not worry about getting stuck, thereby circumventing 2 extra hours of traffic, I won't hear a single fukin idiot in my truck complaining about the extra chit I've done to it.
Definitely haven't heard a complaint from any of the several people I've pulled out of the dirt with my winch, or helped save with my traction boards. As for fun to drive….idk what that 2nd poster is talking about. Sure maybe they don't handle on rails like a sports car, but it sure puts a smile on my face when I can bomb into a fresh rain-made pothole, hit a dip in the road without slowing, crest a breakover at speed and get a little bit of air, or just enter a driveway without needing to angle the vehicle, all without much concern for any damage to the vehicle.
the same as someone in a trx, raptor or trd pro will get props amongst the millions of "off roaders" nowadays
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03-13-2024, 09:54 PM
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I installed a Diamondback on my Duramax about 2 weeks after buying it, great cover, can hold two ATV's on top. Serious pucker factor getting them or snowmobiles on there but great units. Wish the key entries were flush with the deck though. They're also quite fun to put lounge chairs on for watching fireworks )). I made some mounts for fishing rod cases, great for run and gun fly fishing.
I put a old man camper shell on my truck and a carpeted bed mat. Slept in the back a half dozen times while parked at the beach or campsite instead of pitching a tent. Keep camping stuff semi-safe and dry during some camping trips and also ski-trips in the snow. However i lol at people who daily drive a truck with a freaking rooftop tent, water tank shower, a refrigerator, and a full camp kitchen always onboard.
EDIT: the only thing i'd replace the camper shell with is a Diamondback tonneau cover for the lockbox security it provides and being able to strap heavy things to the flat top.
EDIT: the only thing i'd replace the camper shell with is a Diamondback tonneau cover for the lockbox security it provides and being able to strap heavy things to the flat top.
03-14-2024, 09:30 AM
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I'll have to definatly pick one up, but probably not until after I purchase a travel trailer that i've been searching for a while now. It is nice having a space to sleep inside of built in.
I installed a Diamondback on my Duramax about 2 weeks after buying it, great cover, can hold two ATV's on top. Serious pucker factor getting them or snowmobiles on there but great units. Wish the key entries were flush with the deck though. They're also quite fun to put lounge chairs on for watching fireworks )). I made some mounts for fishing rod cases, great for run and gun fly fishing.
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03-14-2024, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell⏩
zackad is right, theres a different between ricer and tuner bro
dude i lived my teen years in the peak of the fast and furious years. their were "clean" cars at the top of the pecking order that everyone lusted after but it was all part of the same "ricer" culture. a clean 700+ hp supra could pull into parking lot full of cruisers and he'd "be the man" amongst those that couldn't afford that level.
the same as someone in a trx, raptor or trd pro will get props amongst the millions of "off roaders" nowadays
the same as someone in a trx, raptor or trd pro will get props amongst the millions of "off roaders" nowadays
a clean 700hp supra is not a ricer, a civic with a fart can and cai is a ricer.
a clean awd or rwd car with anything things like a turbo, fuel, exhaust/intake, mapping and suspension upgrades is a tuner and a respectable car unless you're a "american muscle" guy with a dumb bias. A fwd car with cheap bolt ons, crappy lowering springs and untasteful cosmetic mods is a ricer.
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03-14-2024, 10:02 AM
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Would rather have an off-road vehicle for the current pre-WWIII/civil war 2 days than a little ricer, so at least it might come in handy.
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03-14-2024, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted By viccruise420⏩
tuner and ricer were the same thing back then. everybody considered themselves a "tuner" and nobody considered themselves a ricer (a derogatory term). just like now everybody considers themselves rugged owners of rugged off road vehicles…maybe 2% actually do anything rugged off-road.
zackad is right, theres a different between ricer and tuner bro
a clean 700hp supra is not a ricer, a civic with a fart can and cai is a ricer.
a clean awd or rwd car with anything things like a turbo, fuel, exhaust/intake, mapping and suspension upgrades is a tuner and a respectable car unless you're a "american muscle" guy with a dumb bias. A fwd car with cheap bolt ons, crappy lowering springs and untasteful cosmetic mods is a ricer.
a clean 700hp supra is not a ricer, a civic with a fart can and cai is a ricer.
a clean awd or rwd car with anything things like a turbo, fuel, exhaust/intake, mapping and suspension upgrades is a tuner and a respectable car unless you're a "american muscle" guy with a dumb bias. A fwd car with cheap bolt ons, crappy lowering springs and untasteful cosmetic mods is a ricer.
the "tuners" of 20 years ago lusted after the clean 700hp Supra or RX7 just as the "off-roaders" of today lust after the raptor or trx…most dudes can't afford that though so they settle for a basic f150 or silverado, lift it and put big tires on it (todays version of the loud muffler/wing/stickers).
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03-14-2024, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted By eddiehaskell⏩
Raptors and TRX are not offroad ready vehicles. They're grocery getters with high performance engines. You don't need 700hp in an offroad rig. You need lots of suspension travel, big tires with lots of sidewall, preferably on beadlocks. Lots of recovery points and armor, winch, locking diffs, solid axles. They have none of that stuff. You don't need 700hp when you have 100:1 crawl ratio.
tuner and ricer were the same thing back then. everybody considered themselves a "tuner" and nobody considered themselves a ricer (a derogatory term). just like now everybody considers themselves rugged owners of rugged off road vehicles…maybe 2% actually do anything rugged off-road.
the "tuners" of 20 years ago lusted after the clean 700hp Supra or RX7 just as the "off-roaders" of today lust after the raptor or trx…most dudes can't afford that though so they settle for a basic f150 or silverado, lift it and put big tires on it (todays version of the loud muffler/wing/stickers).
the "tuners" of 20 years ago lusted after the clean 700hp Supra or RX7 just as the "off-roaders" of today lust after the raptor or trx…most dudes can't afford that though so they settle for a basic f150 or silverado, lift it and put big tires on it (todays version of the loud muffler/wing/stickers).
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