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08-19-2024, 01:16 PM
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does this seem like a good fat burner?

they claim its really strong


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08-19-2024, 01:17 PM
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No.

If you're going the stim route and already taking caffeine, just take EC stack.

Dave Palumbo says to avoid stims at all because you can just take clen which isn't a stim. Pair with tonic water to mitigate cramps and you're good.
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08-19-2024, 01:29 PM
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Only thing in there that would be consider a fat burner would be the L-carnitine, and it has dog****/nonexistent oral availability (you should really only be pinning it subq).
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