The question is – will it be real or will it be 2016 all over. Dems and the media threw everything they had at Trump in 2016 and 2020 and still it came down to elections decided by 30-40k votes. Will Kamala – the last place candidate in the 2020 primaries actually be the one to truly have that type of lead? Doubtful.

You’re overstating the number of people who watch party Conventions in 2024. It’s mostly a bunch of boomers who had their minds made up 2 years ago. This stuff isn’t even on the radar for people under 35-40.

They are hoping the public (esp braindead liberal women, blacks and cuck men) will swallow the narrative that Kamala is the second coming of Winston Churchill. They only need to keep this scam going for another 80 days. The only way to combat that is to fuking reach out to everyone you know to vote Trump.

doesn't matter – i'm betting the media will be touting polls with kamala "up 10%" by sunday. they control the matrix and craft the storylines to fit their narrative.

Felon criminal conman bent on hatred vengeance and corrupt retribution VS the Younger female minority Prosecutor is not a good look.

yet somehow they resulted in a last place finish in 2020. ohhhhh but now it be different

Kamala has always had a likeability problem – even the Dems didn't want her when Biden was stepping down. I guess it remains to be seen if the twerk dances at her rallies have any positive impact

Biden winning the election in 2020 is considered last place for trumpkins that live in alternative facts multiverse, got it.

she does play well to clown world idiots that simply get hyped up based on gender and race…we've spent 15+ years bringing society to that point.

now come to think of it this is a wet dream for dems lmao

Get the polls up, media will point to them after they rig the election again.

Looking forward to irregularities in all swing states and liberals rejoicing at the steal while they call you a conspiracy theorist

They're putting out fake polls pretending she has support so they can rig it later

JD Vance says the media uses fake polls to drive down Republican turnout. Is he right?

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/r...t-is-he-right/

Ahead of the Democratic National Convention this week, Fox News Sunday host Shannon Bream rattled off the latest batch of battleground state polls from the New York Times/Siena College to Sen. J.D. Vance (R-OH), which showed Vice President Kamala Harris leading former President Donald Trump by 5 points in Arizona and by 2 points in North Carolina. She also referenced two new national surveys from ABC News/Washington Post and CBS News showing Harris ahead of Trump by 4 points and 3 points in those respective states.

Asked for a comment, Vance replied, “Consistently, what you’ve seen in 2016 and 2020 is that the media uses fake polls to drive down Republican turnout and to create dissension and conflict with Republican voters. I’m telling you, every single person who’s watching this, the Trump campaign is in a very, very good spot. We’re going to win this race. We just have to run through the finish line.”


So, is Vance right, or is he in deep denial? Is Harris’s ostensible momentum real or manufactured?

There are indications that Vance may be on to something.

I question the accuracy of the New York Times/Siena College polls because Republican pollster Rasmussen, a polling company that is well known for its accuracy, released very different numbers the previous day. Nationally, Trump led Harris by 4 points, according to Rasmussen. Among independent voters, he was ahead by 9 points.


Moreover, on Friday, polling guru Nate Silver published an article about the New YorkTimes’s latest results titled “Is it possible our polls have been underestimating Trump? Yes.”

Silver began by addressing an internal memo written by the Trump campaign’s chief pollster, Tony Fabrizio, about the New York Times’s latest polls, which he claimed “ha[d] dramatically understated President Trump’s support both among all registered voters and in their likely-voter model.”

Fabrizio argued, “In each state, the gap between the survey’s recalled 2020 vote and the reported 2020 election results is more than the margin” between Harris and Trump. “Once again, we see a series of public surveys released with the clear intent and purpose of depressing support for President Trump,” Fabrizio added.

In a “recalled vote” poll, respondents are first asked to “recall” which candidate they voted for in 2020, and then asked whom they plan to support in November. For example, Silver explains, “In the polls of Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin, respondents recalled backing President Biden over Mr. Trump by six points, 52% to 46%, even though Mr. Biden actually won these three states by an average of about 1.5 points. The Trump campaign used this data point to say Mr. Trump would have led if the poll had the ‘right’ number of Trump 2020 supporters.”

Silver admits that “over the longer run, recalled vote hasn’t usually been very reliable.” He takes readers through a detailed — and confusing — discussion of occasions when the use of recalled vote produced accurate polling results versus the times it didn’t.

Silver added that sometimes voters forget who they voted for four years earlier, or they want to say they backed the winner, which was Biden.

Here’s a third possibility: Maybe the New York Times oversampled Democrats.

Silver ultimately concludes: “No one ever knows which polls — or which polling methodologies — will appear ‘right’ or ‘wrong’ until the election.”

While that’s true, we’ve seen some pretty surprising polling data this cycle. Perhaps the most alarming result so far was a Bloomberg/Morning Consult poll released late last month that showed Harris ahead of Trump in Michigan by 11 points. Two surveys of the state had been released the previous day. The first, from Fox News, showed the race tied. The second, from the Hill/Emerson, found Trump ahead of Harris by 1 point. If we extract the Bloomberg/Morning Consult poll from the RealClearPolitics average of Michigan polls, Harris’s current 2-point lead in the state would fall to 0.9 points.

Another shocking result in recent memory was a Washington Post/ABC News poll released days before the 2020 election that found Biden leading Trump by 17 points in Wisconsin. Although Biden won the state, the final margin was 0.6 points.

At any rate, as the Democratic National Convention begins, Harris’s numbers have been starting to flatten (meaning the increases were becoming smaller and occurring more slowly), signaling that her “honeymoon” phase may be coming to an end.

Still, she is likely to receive a convention bounce which, historically, have ranged in size from -1%, as John Kerry and Mitt Romney experienced in 2004 and 2012, respectively, to Bill Clinton’s spectacular 16% surge in 1992…..

I’m just looking forward to the debate, gonna be a fun night!