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post 1693758633 11-22-2023, 06:11 AM
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You learn some amazing life hacks ITT. Next piano lesson after each new thing I learn I'll tell my teacher "thanks for the refresher!" and I'm sure that'll be enough to convince him, an expert on the subject, that I know as much about jazz piano as he does!
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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
See Z4, whilst I appreciate what you said you just threw red meat to trollerball who obviously, cannot fathom any genuine human interaction which isn't attacking/being attacked.
I can't control what other people, including you, do with my posts so don't put that shiit on me, brah.

You were free to respond to my inquiry with, "Yeah...? Why is that?" instead of "lulzy" along with what looked like a half-assed attempt at harmonizing the scale.
Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
It's also, sadly, part of the reason I find people on the spectrum to be really annoying. They tend to take harmless and innocuous statements, analyze them to death when it's entirely unnecessary, and try and lord their intellect or achievements over people. There's another graduate student like this and at times it's a real effort to not just punch him in the face.
You're in a PhD program. That is exactly the forum where one should expect people to analyze everything with a microscope. I want my physicians to be the guys people wanted to punch in the face in med school, for example.
Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
Like I said, I just played chords I derived from the diminished scale and got cool loungey sounds. It's not as if I was going "Hey....wait a second! We can apply complex rules of substitution and see these are actually kind of interchangeable. MY WHOLE LIFE IS A LIE!!!".

I appreciate your theory refresher though, regarldess.
The point has always been, since adimare posed the backdoor, is that the diminished/dominant relationship is not an abstruse rule of substitution; it is a common rule of substitution in jazz.

Suggesting they're "kind of interchangeable" after reading my post indicates you either a) didn't understand my post, or b) attempting to change the theory to rationalize why you didn't know it. Come on, man.

As for all the other stuff, I don't remark on it in the misc and won't here either.
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Originally Posted By adimare⏩
I'll tell my teacher "thanks for the refresher!"
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
That sounded pretty good.
Dweezil has that EVH tone figured out.

I'm always tinkering with my pedalboard in search of something that changes all the time and while I take photos of settings so I can go back and recreate a sound being able to save presets with that Fractal chit would save me a lot of stress. With analog gear you can go to bed thinking you've dialed in a great tone, plug in the next day and not be happy with it, then you start pulling stuff off the board, screwing around, making it sound even worse. Too many variables. You can just scroll through presets until you hear something you like at that moment.
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
Do you have an example of your favorite tone of all time?
Depends on the music.

For example I love that early VH tone, especially Fair Warning and Diver Down. I love Holdsworth's tone on Wardenclyffe Tower and Hard Hat Area. Vai on Alien Love Secrets. Knopfler on Brothers in Arms. Too many to mention. I typically don't play with much gain but lately I've been missing it because it has its place for that 80s stuff which you know I'll nuthug until I'm landfill.
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I had a bit of time this week and did full setups on the whole stable.

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Originally Posted By z4v4⏩
I can't control what other people, including you, do with my posts so don't put that shiit on me, brah.

You were free to respond to my inquiry with, "Yeah...? Why is that?" instead of "lulzy" along with what looked like a half-assed attempt at harmonizing the scale.




You're in a PhD program. That is exactly the forum where one should expect people to analyze everything with a microscope. I want my physicians to be the guys people wanted to punch in the face in med school, for example.




The point has always been, since adimare posed the backdoor, is that the diminished/dominant relationship is not an abstruse rule of substitution; it is a common rule of substitution in jazz.

Suggesting they're "kind of interchangeable" after reading my post indicates you either a) didn't understand my post, or b) attempting to change the theory to rationalize why you didn't know it. Come on, man.

As for all the other stuff, I don't remark on it in the misc and won't here either.
Not attempting to change the theory at all, and obviously I'm not contesting what you've said, just stating that many years ago when I was making chords from it I was just noticing the cool lounge sounds you get from different shapes. I couldn't GAF that there were rules of substitution which made them interchangeable.


If you want to have a theory discussion at this level, you gotta give me some time to catch up with study.
Back off, Warchild.

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Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
Not attempting to change the theory at all, and obviously I'm not contesting what you've said, just stating that many years ago when I was making chords from it I was just noticing the cool lounge sounds you get from different shapes. I couldn't GAF that there were rules of substitution which made them interchangeable.
They're rules that became rules because they're intuitive.

An A7 chord has the pitches A C# E G.

On an F#7 chord (F# A# C# E), the A from the A7 is the #9, the G is the b9, and the other two pitches (C# E) are already chord tones of F#7; therefore, playing an A7 chord over an F#7 chord results in an F#7b9#9 tonality; ergo, A7 can sub for F#7.
Originally Posted By Bodhy⏩
If you want to have a theory discussion at this level, you gotta give me some time to catch up with study.
You've had a few months to catch up from the backdoor dominant (which comes from this) since it's been posted, no?

This level is basic jazz harmony level. It would require what is covered in two semesters of traditional harmony first, and then this shiit is first semester jazz harmony.

You keep making the implication that it's some super advanced shiit that you need to refresh yourself with, but it's just basic jazz harmony that you still need to learn. Nothing wrong with that, brah.
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Originally Posted By Dominik⏩
Depends on the music.

For example I love that early VH tone, especially Fair Warning and Diver Down. I love Holdsworth's tone on Wardenclyffe Tower and Hard Hat Area. Vai on Alien Love Secrets. Knopfler on Brothers in Arms. Too many to mention. I typically don't play with much gain but lately I've been missing it because it has its place for that 80s stuff which you know I'll nuthug until I'm landfill.
I don't have a favourite tone since I think it's too context and style specific. I have favorite tones in different contexts. Any player for whom I can immediately recognize their sound gets a place for me:

1. Slash.

2. EVH.

3. Vai.

4. Dimebag.

5. George Lynch.


Plus, remember when Leon Todd was demo'ing the Axe Fx for a synthwave track. The tone he had on that was unbelievable. That dude knows his sounds. I'll definitely see Ragdoll if they come my way.



I'll also tell you a tone I hate. That's Tony Macalpine's tone he had for the first half of his career. Very bad tone, it was like a distorted keyboard. Incredible guitarist though, and very nice guy. I met him in 2005 when he played with Virgil Donati.
Originally Posted By z4v4
You've had a few months to catch up from the backdoor dominant (which comes from this) since it's been posted, no?

This level is basic jazz harmony level. It would require what is covered in two semesters of traditional harmony first, and then this shiit is first semester jazz harmony.

You keep making the implication that it's some super advanced shiit that you need to refresh yourself with, but it's just basic jazz harmony that you still need to learn. Nothing wrong with that, brah.
When my plate clears up, absolutely. Levine's book is like 10 metres away in the university library. Believe me, I'd love nothing more than to have free days to just read novels and study this stuff. I've got an upcoming conference in a few weeks, so maybe around Christmas I can devote some time to catch up and study. Oh, and actually get myself a friggin guitar at last.
Back off, Warchild.

Seriously.
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
It's time, Dom. Time to post a clip of some kind of your Schmoe-isms. Let's hear that tone, doesn't have to be some on-the-spot demonstration of the limits of your skills, but a clip so we can hear what kind of sound you like to work with with that pedal board set up of yours.
I thought you were going to say it's time... time to get an Axe FX III.
Originally Posted By rollerball⏩
Anyways, DOM. WHERE YOU AT, DOM. DON'T BE SCARED HOMIE. Let's hear those fukking TONES already.
Just got home from the gym. 1am here mang. Give a man time. I'll cook something up for you.
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Originally Posted By 7empest⏩
best version of comfortably numb imo

I don't know, I'm still partial to Pompeii. I mean, it kind of has to be a version with the black Strat right?



With that said, the modulation he used in The Wall tours of 1980/81 was also really special, and closer to what was used in the studio.

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Originally Posted By StackingPlates⏩
I don't know, I'm still partial to Pompeii. I mean, it kind of has to be a version with the black Strat right?



With that said, the modulation he used in The Wall tours of 1980/81 was also really special, and closer to what was used in the studio.

yeah true, I think it's because i've listened to every version with his black strat, that him playing this charvel and doing different stuff kinda speaks to me

can't be wrong with any version
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So I plugged in a pedal into my digital audio interface playing through my amp sim software on my computer and why have I not been doing this sooner. It sounds great.
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Originally Posted By CherryPopinski⏩
So I plugged in a pedal into my digital audio interface playing through my amp sim software on my computer and why have I not been doing this sooner. It sounds great.
Which amp sim are you using?
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Which amp sim are you using?
The latest version of Scuffham S-Gear
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Originally Posted By CherryPopinski⏩
The latest version of Scuffham S-Gear
Have you tried NAM?

It'd be interesting to see how you think it compares.
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
Have you tried NAM?

It'd be interesting to see how you think it compares.
Unaware of NAM, aware me? Scuffham is a pretty good program it sounds very realistic to my ears. Today I plugged my guitar into my EHX Ram’s Head reissue pedal, then straight into my Scarlett 2i2 and ran S-Gear on a clean preset and I was pretty pleased with the sound. Will be trying more of my pedals through my digital rig tomorrow.
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Originally Posted By CherryPopinski⏩
Unaware of NAM, aware me? Scuffham is a pretty good program it sounds very realistic to my ears. Today I plugged my guitar into my EHX Ram’s Head reissue pedal, then straight into my Scarlett 2i2 and ran S-Gear on a clean preset and I was pretty pleased with the sound. Will be trying more of my pedals through my digital rig tomorrow.
NAM is essentially a free profiling platform, similar to Tonex and Kemper.

https://www.neuralampmodeler.com/

There are tons of captures available:
https://tonehunt.org/all
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Originally Posted By J.L.C.⏩
NAM is essentially a free profiling platform, similar to Tonex and Kemper.

https://www.neuralampmodeler.com/

There are tons of captures available:
https://tonehunt.org/all
I took a look at a few YouTube demos of the program. It looks cool but seems a little convoluted to use, as there’s quite a bit of profiles to sort through. I’ll try to get around to messing with it though.
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Originally Posted By CherryPopinski⏩
I took a look at a few YouTube demos of the program. It looks cool but seems a little convoluted to use, as there’s quite a bit of profiles to sort through. I’ll try to get around to messing with it though.
I think the flexibility loses the main message.

The practical reality is just to open the profile you want and start playing.

If you're interested, I captured my own amp (Mesa MIVb circa 2007) in a bunch of configurations with and without a cabinet.

If you have it installed and wanna check out my toanz, I'm happy to share.
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what miscer is this
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look how nice this strat is
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