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post 1448666443 06-20-2016, 04:09 AM
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To even debate this topic(and there is no debate) you must have an understanding of history. The creation of this nation was based on individual freedom from government. Government in all shapes and sizes.

To put this in perspective think of it like you're in game of thrones and live life as a peasant. All these noble houses are ruling above you and have all their petty skirmishes that they try and drag you into. You move away and establish a new home. The noble houses says that you must fight their battles and pay them money. So you refuse and they attack you with an army. You fight them off and declare yourself independent of all the bull**** the houses are fighting about. You put it down in law that your people are free people and have a right to live their lives how they wish.

People used state of the art weapons to defend themselves against tyranny. All weapons including swords, knives,machine guns, explosives and whatever is used on the battlefield is protected by the second amendment.
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Senate votes on 4 gun rights infringements today


Originally Posted By LukeLissen
Contact your senators now and let them know how you feel!
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Senate to vote on gun control, prospects dim for change
http://www.wral.com/senate-votes-won...zBSA6pY8gTc.99

WASHINGTON β€” Democrats get their long-sought votes on gun control a week after the massacre in Orlando, Florida, but election-year politics and the powerful National Rifle Association dim any prospects for changes in the nation's laws.

The Senate will vote Monday night on four measures β€” two sponsored by Republicans, two by Democrats. All are expected to fail in a bitterly divided Congress.

Gun control remains at a stalemate as few lawmakers are willing to challenge the NRA and no mass shooting the past five years β€” from Phoenix; to Aurora, Colorado; to Newtown, Connecticut; to Charleston, South Carolina; to San Bernardino, California β€” has led to new laws. Polls show large numbers of Americans agree with the need for at least some limited gun measures such as background checks. But Democrats have been unable to translate that into legislation because the NRA is able to mobilize and energize voters who will threaten to vote lawmakers out on the gun issue alone.

"Laws didn't stop them in Boston. Laws didn't stop them in San Bernardino, where you had every type of gun control law that you could have. And they didn't stop them in Paris, where people can't even own guns," NRA CEO Wayne LaPierre told CBS' "Face the Nation" on Sunday.

The four votes on Monday night are the result of a deal after Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., filibustered for almost 15 hours seeking action in response to the Orlando shooting that killed 49 people and injured 53. Democrats are expected to block two Republican amendments, arguing that they fall short in controlling the sales of guns. Republicans are expected to block two Democratic amendments, contending that they threaten the constitutional rights of gun owners.

Murphy signaled that passage of the measures was unlikely and focused on the response to his filibuster.

"It wasn't just that 40 senators came to the floor and supported my effort to get these votes but there were millions of people all across the country who rose up and who joined our effort," Murphy said Sunday on ABC's "This Week."

The Senate will vote on a measure by Murphy to expand gun background checks and one by Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., to keep people on a government terrorism watch list or other suspected terrorists from buying guns. The Justice Department has endorsed her legislation.

As a counter, Republican Sen. John Cornyn of Texas is pushing a measure that would allow the government to delay a gun sale to a suspected terrorist for 72 hours, but require prosecutors to go to court to show probable cause to block the sale permanently. The NRA backs the legislation, but gun control advocates and Democrats say that bar is too high.

Judiciary Committee Chairman Charles Grassley's measure would boost funds for the National Instant Criminal Background Check System and ensure that the correct records are uploaded into the system in a timely manner. It would also clarify language surrounding mental health issues that would disqualify someone from buying a gun. Democrats say that language in the bill would actually roll back some current protections.

The Orlando shooter, Omar Mateen, was added to a government watch list of individuals known or suspected of being involved in terrorist activities in 2013, when he was investigated for inflammatory statements to co-workers. But he was pulled from that database when that investigation was closed 10 months later.

Both the Feinstein and Cornyn amendments would try to ensure that individuals like Mateen who had been a subject of a terrorism investigation within the last five years are flagged. Grassley's would require that law enforcement be notified if a person had been investigated in the last five years and attempted to purchase a gun.

Last week, presumptive GOP presidential nominee Donald Trump tweeted that he would meet with the NRA about "not allowing people on the terrorist watch list, or the no fly list, to buy guns." Exactly what he would support was unclear.

Separately, moderate Republican Sen. Susan Collins of Maine is working with other Republicans, as well as talking to Democrats, on a bill that would prevent people on the no-fly list β€” a smaller universe than targeted by Democrats β€” from getting guns. But her bill had not been blessed by GOP leaders and it was unclear if it would get a vote.

In the GOP-controlled House, Republicans had no plans to act on guns and Democrats were unable to force any action, given House rules less favorable to the minority party than in the Senate.








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You know what I don't get you need a license to carry a Pee shooter pistol but u can just buy an assault rifle off the shelf in america...I think a pistol is a better self defense weapon then a big ass assault rifle...Also pistols tend to be easier for cucks like you guys to handle then a big ass assault rifle..
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Originally Posted By DouLou
You see people saying "We need guns incase the government turn on us
Which has happened many, many times in history right after a gun ban.
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Originally Posted By DouLou
If I'm lucky I imagine I'll never need a gun for the rest of my life.

I doubt I'd ever be mugged at knife point and I don't think I'll ever experience a home invasion

do I really want them all to be able to buy them just in case the really unlikely scenario that I myself need a gun ever arises?

All 3 of the sentences disprove the Liberal argument. Your belief that violent crimes are very unlikely to happen means there should be no need for gun bans/restrictions. The core of anti-gun arguments are that violent crime is to high (which is bs, because over the past 5 years gun sales have gone up while violent crime has gone down). If the rates are as low as FBI database shows. I would willingly be the one to take the bad end of the stick to maintain Americas 2nd amendment.

Furthermore, take note the reason mass murders are occurring in such high rates, as well as keeping such high casualty rates is due to current gun-control ideas. The next time I hear someone want gun-free zones with little security, I will ask them if they care about the children/people. Because statistically they created even more danger for schools.
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Originally Posted By TheWolfieFox
You know what I don't get you need a license to carry a Pee shooter pistol but u can just buy an assault rifle off the shelf in america...I think a pistol is a better self defense weapon then a big ass assault rifle...Also pistols tend to be easier for cucks like you guys to handle then a big ass assault rifle..
Pistols kill nearly 10x as many. meaning if they were easier to get, theoretically it would only exacerbate the actual issue.
But hey, we all know the whole anti-gun thing isn't about peoples lives by now.

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What the **** do you need an assault rifle for?
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Originally Posted By nikeoneplatinum
What the **** do you need an assault rifle for?
Christ.. just fuk off already. You don't even know what an assault rifle is.

Tell you what. I need one for whatever the fuk reason I want. It's none of your business. The constitution guarantees my right to own one.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser
Christ.. just fuk off already. You don't even know what an assault rifle is.

Tell you what. I need one for whatever the fuk reason I want. It's none of your business. The constitution guarantees my right to own one.
You're right I don't, I don't live in a fantasy world.
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Originally Posted By nikeoneplatinum
You're right I don't, I don't live in a fantasy world.
Define "Assault Rifle" or stop posting.
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Originally Posted By Barteh
I dont give a chit whether weapons and rifles are legal or not. But I don't live in constant fear of my family getting raped at gunpoint.That's almost as ridiculous as thinking you need weapons to protect yourself from the government.They government already controls your life. Just not with force, but with information and manipulation. We are not living in the 1800s anymore.
Must be nice living in your fantasy world.

There are like 100 million gun owners and the govt is trying to reduce that number with information and manipulation. It's a numbers game,they will shoot you in the face or enslave you as soon as they get the chance.
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Originally Posted By InstantLoser
Christ.. just fuk off already. You don't even know what an assault rifle is.

Tell you what. I need one for whatever the fuk reason I want. It's none of your business. The constitution guarantees my right to own one.
I'm sure that's what the Orlando shooter would have said if he was asked why needed one.
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Originally Posted By DicedPineapples
I'm sure that's what the Orlando shooter would have said if he was asked why needed one.
He didn't use an Assault Rifle. He used a standard SIG sem-automatic rifle and a handgun. Try again. An AR-15 isn't an assault rifle either, so even if he had used one which he didn't, he still didn't use an assault rifle. AR = Armalite.
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Originally Posted By Zackad
replying to say you must be one of the 84%, because the majority of people alive cannot have below average intellect. The majority of people alive are average.
Well this is mathematically incorrect.

Say on a scale of 1-10 intellect, 5 is average.

You have one person who is a 10, two people who are a 3, and one person who is a 4.

Out of these 4 people, the average intellect is a 5.

However the majority (3 out of the 4) are below average intellect.





Congratulations idiot, you're part of the 84%
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Originally Posted By jaygee15
Lets ban assault rifles so if we ever were invaded we wouldnt be able to protect ourselves

oh wait,, maybe the invaders will leave their assault rifles at the border and follow the new laws.
This is the stupidest thing I've ever read.
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis
dumb argument, so everything should be legal then? drugs?

why don't we allow rocket launchers, tanks, and grenades etc? Because those things are completely unnecessary and so are guns that fire hundreds of rounds at lighting speed
You can own all of these you moron.
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That dude is a pathetic *******


Lost it when he said "more people would have died" if people were carrying at the nightclub that got shot up.


Yeah buddy, I'm sure it would have taken 50 lives before they shot the attacker, if they had guns of their own
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Originally Posted By nikeoneplatinum
What the **** do you need an assault rifle for?
Ignoring your pedantic use of the word "assault rifle", that is exactly the type of weapon that the second amendment protects. The goal was that citizens be armed similarly to a soldier.

Courts have ruled that only weapons beneficial to a militiaman are protected by the constitution. Someone tried to fight an NFA charge for a short barreled shotgun on the basis of the 2A. He lost, and the judge commented that it was because it wasnt good enough to be used in a milita. Srs. I'll try to find the link

People arguing about whether or not an AR15 is an "assault rifle" or a "weapon of war" (its not) are totally missing the point.

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Originally Posted By BDPfit
That's a nice way of attempting to justify being a limp wristed ******* that can't take a stance on an issue
I mean it isn't really an issue considering your chances of dying to a gun is .00343%

Liberals are just blowing this issue up as a way to polarize American voters
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Originally Posted By iLiketoLift898
They shouldn't be banned, but I think most rational people understand that the gun laws have to be evaluated. People, like the Orlando shooter, who have been investigated by the FBI a number of times for suspicion of terrorism, should not be allowed to own firearms.
So the government can just put people on secret lists without due process, even after they've been investigated and found to not be a criminial or suspicious (as was the case with the Orlando **** bag) - and denied their rights forever?

Surely that wont be abused.
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Originally Posted By Day1086
Well this is mathematically incorrect.

Say on a scale of 1-10 intellect, 5 is average.

You have one person who is a 10, two people who are a 3, and one person who is a 4.

Out of these 4 people, the average intellect is a 5.

However the majority (3 out of the 4) are below average intellect.

Congratulations idiot, you're part of the 84%
say you have 3 people who rank as 7, one who ranks as a 1, and another who ranks as a 3.

Out of these 5 people, the average intellect is 5. And yet the majority are above average intellect.

Congratulations idiot, you're also part of the 84%.

You can't have a 1-10 scale without an average population. And if you're basing your 1-10 scale off those 4 people, then it's not on a scale of 1-10, or you'd have to adjust the ratings of those people.

Strong extrapolating from a sample to an entire population. Do you even math and statistics?
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Create mandatory background checks on all gun purchases. If anyone is on a federal watch list, no fly list, or has been interviewed by FBI 2 ****ing times, don't give them a gun. Allow one to go before a court to appeal this, thus keeping checks and balances in line without making the FBI the gestapo.

Create minimum 10 year sentence laws for anyone caught illegally carrying a gun..plain and simple. You wana play fuk fuk with a gun..you're going to prison.

Pass Federal legislation that allows concealed carry in all 50 states so that ones only defense in case of an active shooter situation isn't "attempt to hide or die".
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Originally Posted By midcoastking33
if i had a kid i wouldn't let them within 1000 feet of a miscer
Lol you gonna feed your kid with a slingshot?
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Originally Posted By jbball92
(((liberal trolls)))
The anti gun propaganda is pretty strong at the moment, I wonder who could be behind this?
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wtf is an assault weapon?
All weapons can be used for assault.
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i wish i had debate skills like some of the people in here. how do i learn (srs)
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post 1448783163 06-20-2016, 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted By dumberthan****
yes..there are really "men" out there like this.




Bbbbbbbbut he has a beard he must be high test
post 1448785413 06-20-2016, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted By Nomadbrah
wtf is an assault weapon?
All weapons can be used for assault.
There is actually alegaldefinition of an "Assault Weapon". There had to be so that the AWB could pass in 1994.
First, understand that Assault Rifle =/= Assault Weapon. An Assault rifle is military-grade, full-auto selectable rifle. No one commits crimes with an Assault Rifle as they are expensive and rare in civvies hands.

An Assault Weapon is a semi-auto firearm with 2 or more features such as: Detachable Magazine, Collapsible Stock, Pistol Grip, Flash Hider, Under-mount Grenade launcher, bayonet mount, barrel shroud (or handguard).

So if your rifle has a collapsible stock and a pistol grip.. *BOOM*.. assault weapon. Or Pistol Grip and a Flash Hider...*BOOM* assault weapon. Pick any two or more combination and you have a legal definition of an Assault Weapon.
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post 1448786203 06-20-2016, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted By Ayz33
i wish i had debate skills like some of the people in here. how do i learn (srs)
Follow current events, then use logic and comment appropriately. Try to remain detached and keep emotion out of it. Keep personal attacks out of it. Avoid logical fallacies (Google them, there are many).
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