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Thread: There aren't actually grown ass adult men who want to ban "assault" weapons right?

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Originally Posted By FriskiesTheCat⏩
You can seriously buy all of those things in the us
No kidding, but we don't everyone with a tank in their backyard because no good will come of it. \

When something is illegal, the barriers to getting it are higher and people are less likely to do it than if it was legal. So things that you dont want people to do or have should be illegal herp derp get it?
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
Here we go again "it worked in ___ country and that's evidence of how it will work in US"

Guess what moron, other countries ban guns and don't have anywhere near the number of gun violence that we do. Why do ignore that?
you're nuts if you don't think legalizing drugs is a good thing. legal means no fear of being jailed, so you're allowed to be honest with it, which means you can get more treatment.

or maybe it's better that we treat all drug addicts like scum, and let them clog up our streets and panhandle money from us in uncomfortable situations?

Suicides account for a large majority of gun deaths in the US. and i honestly don't care about the statistics of other countries, srs. 10/10 times, I feel safer in the US than in other countries.
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Originally Posted By amsgator⏩
And you are the problem with America. A bunch of idiots who don't know anything about anything think they somehow have the right to tell other people how they should live their lives.
You haven't made one good argument against my logic.

All you gun nuts complain that you need protection, and I'm fine with that. But you cannot tell me that you need anything more than a handgun to protect your family. You aren't mowing down isis in the middle east.
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
You haven't made one good argument against my logic.

All you gun nuts complain that you need protection, and I'm fine with that. But you cannot tell me that you need anything more than a handgun to protect your family. You aren't mowing down isis in the middle east.
Not one ounce of logic has come from you yet. You think an AR-15 is capable of shooting hundreds of rounds per minute. Your idiocy is astounding and I'm not about to entertain it.

I don't think the second amendment says "those who show just cause have the right to keep and bear arms." If you don't like it back your bags and GTFO.
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Originally Posted By Zackad⏩
i honestly don't care about the statistics of other countries, srs. 10/10 times, I feel safer in the US than in other countries.
too bad your feelings don't change the reality that the US is easily the least safe
"civilized" country on the planet.
Originally Posted By Zackad⏩
ou're nuts if you don't think legalizing drugs is a good thing. legal means no fear of being jailed, so you're allowed to be honest with it, which means you can get more treatment.

or maybe it's better that we treat all drug addicts like scum, and let them clog up our streets and panhandle money from us in uncomfortable situations?
you have way too much faith in the retards of humanity. WAY more people are going to ruin their lives if hard drugs become legal and it will negate whatever benefits it brings. Less criminals but way high prevalence of people destroying their lives because people are more likely to do things that are legal
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
too bad your feelings don't change the reality that the US is easily the least safe
"civilized" country on the planet.
You would be 100% true...if one lived in the gun controlled liberal utopias you are supporting. "Gun nut central" Texas has the lowest homicide rate of anywhere else in the US. Guess that has the worst? Detroit, MI. You know, the liberal, gun controlled utopia that you're so in love with.
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Why do you all continue to allow jamesbwbevis to troll you? He's a well known trickster who's chock full of tom foolery and shenanigans.
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
you have way too much faith in the retards of humanity. WAY more people are going to ruin their lives if hard drugs become legal and it will negate whatever benefits it brings. Less criminals but way high prevalence of people destroying their lives because people are more likely to do things that are legal
Where is your evidence to back your claim?
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Originally Posted By amsgator⏩
Not one ounce of logic has come from you yet. You think an AR-15 is capable of shooting hundreds of rounds per minute. Your idiocy is astounding and I'm not about to entertain it.

I don't think the second amendment says "those who show just cause have the right to keep and bear arms." If you don't like it back your bags and GTFO.
I don't even know what an AR-15 is nor do I care. I don't know specific guns, I've already admitted that.

You continue to dance around the only claim that I am making, which is that you don't need anything beyond a simple handgun to protect yourself.

so everything beyond that should be banned, like they are everywhere else.

common. sense.
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
No kidding, but we don't everyone with a tank in their backyard because no good will come of it. \

When something is illegal, the barriers to getting it are higher and normalpeople are less likely to do it than if it was legal. So things that you dont want people to do or have should be illegal herp derp get it?
brb I don't want people driving on my one lane roads
brb now illegal for anyone to be on the road at the same time as me

just because you want something, doesn't mean you'll get it. that's life bruh. the best you can do is deal. I don't want insane fuks to commit mass shootings. that doesn't mean it's going to stop. so the best way I can deal with it is to own a gun for my own protection. At the very least, it's peace of mind, which everyone should be able to have when they're at home, or shopping, etc. At the very most, it's a way to stop a shooting before it becomes a mass shooting.
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
I don't even know what an AR-15 is nor do I care. I don't know specific guns, I've already admitted that.

You continue to dance around the only claim that I am making, which is that you don't need anything beyond a simple handgun to protect yourself.

so everything beyond that should be banned, like they are everywhere else.

common. sense.
Since it's such common sense there must be ample evidence out there that a handgun is sufficient for self-defense. Since you've already admitted to know absolutely nothing about guns, surely you aren't qualified to make such a statement yourself. I'll standby for the evidence to back your claim up that a handgun is better for self-defense than a rifle.
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Originally Posted By JimFromRaleigh1⏩
Where is your evidence to back your claim?
I haven't done some controlled study or anything you *******, it's common sense.
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Originally Posted By amsgator⏩
Since it's such common sense there must be ample evidence out there that a handgun is sufficient for self-defense. Since you've already admitted to know absolutely nothing about guns, surely you aren't qualified to make such a statement yourself. I'll standby for the evidence to back your claim up that a handgun is better for self-defense than a rifle.
DO you know what common sense means? It means that you don't need evidence because it's so fuking obvious.

What is the worst thing that might happen to you in real life? A robber breaks in or something. Why on earth do you need to fire 50 rounds a minute for that? Why w
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
too bad your feelings don't change the reality that the US is easily the least safe
"civilized" country on the planet.

you have way too much faith in the retards of humanity. WAY more people are going to ruin their lives if hard drugs become legal and it will negate whatever benefits it brings. Less criminals but way high prevalence of people destroying their lives because people are more likely to do things that are legal
YOU have way too much faith if you really think something as arbitrary as laws will stop people from doing what they want to.

People drive without seatbelts dont they? they Litter? drive in the carpool lane when there's heavy traffic, even if there's only one person in the car? People steal food, people loot, people break chit, people play the stupid punching game where they try to knock strangers out in one hit.

If someone really wants to do something, they'll do it. No piece of paper is going to stop them. It's not the people who follow laws that anyone is worried about...

in response to you question why does anyone need more than a handgun for self-defense...

why would you want a handgun? srs. makes more sense to use a semi-auto rifle. more accurate, more weight behind the weapon so you use it for striking if you wish, more range. could even use it to block a bullet, gaddamobviously not srs
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Originally Posted By Zackad⏩
b so the best way I can deal with it is to own a gun for my own protection. At the very least, it's peace of mind, which everyone should be able to have when they're at home, or shopping, etc. At the very most, it's a way to stop a shooting before it becomes a mass shooting.
I agree with that, but to achieve this you don't need a machine gun or whatever the hell is legal out there beyond a handgun or whatever cops have
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Originally Posted By Zackad⏩
YOU have way too much faith if you really think something as arbitrary as laws will stop people from doing what they want to.
people are always going to break the law.

murder is illegal, it happens anyway
stealing is illegal, it happens anyway
etc etc etc

There are certain things that are 100% common sense laws. Banning weapons waaaaay more powerful than anyone needs for practical purposes is one of them. Everyone in the world does it but us
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Originally Posted By Vexidi⏩
Why do you all continue to allow jamesbwbevis to troll you? He's a well known trickster who's chock full of tom foolery and shenanigans.
"Jamesbevis disagrees with our ultra conservative, trumptard, gun toting, white supremicist views. surely a troll"

only reason more miscers don't come out against you guys is cause they dont want to get negged. but you can cum the fuk at me
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i'll drop my 2 cents;

Anecdotally, I interact with way too many idiots on a daily basis. I would say the majority of people alive (84%, and no this number is not arbitrary, its based off standard deviations in IQ breakdown ) have average intellect or lower. That's a scary thought. Guns are very powerful and to give an idiot that much power is beyond me. I don't believe banning any type of firearm will solve the problem nor do I feel like its a political issue. When some young kid on the street can take away a life with the pull of a trigger based off of an emotion response, its scary. And yes, I'm aware 99% of rebuttals will be phrased as "If people want to kill, they don't need a gun" which is an accurate statement yet undermines the seriousness of the issue of gun violence. To be honest, I don't believe there is much we can do at this point without either infringing on others rights or creating a market scarcity among a multi-million dollar domestic industry.

tl,dr: idiots are the reason we cant have nice things
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
people are always going to break the law.

murder is illegal, it happens anyway
stealing is illegal, it happens anyway
etc etc etc

There are certain things that are 100% common sense laws. Banning weapons waaaaay more powerful than anyone needs for practical purposes is one of them. Everyone in the world does it but us
by that logic, we should ban all .44 magnums, because those things will literally rip a hole through you, more so than any rifle would.

Srs question though, tell me the power difference between an AK47 that is semi-auto with a 10rd clip and a Glock with a 10rd clip? Both fire the same rate, both have stopping power? You could argue ANY gun is more powerful than anyone needs for protection, unless we're talking like a .22 for killing rats. So the only option left is to either ban all guns or ban none.
Originally Posted By lramos7⏩
i'll drop my 2 cents;

Anecdotally, I interact with way too many idiots on a daily basis. I would say the majority of people alive (84%, and no this number is not arbitrary, its based off standard deviations in IQ breakdown ) have average intellect or lower. That's a scary thought. Guns are very powerful and to give an idiot that much power is beyond me. I don't believe banning any type of firearm will solve the problem nor do I feel like its a political issue. When some young kid on the street can take away a life with the pull of a trigger based off of an emotion response, its scary. And yes, I'm aware 99% of rebuttals will be phrased as "If people want to kill, they don't need a gun" which is an accurate statement yet undermines the seriousness of the issue of gun violence. To be honest, I don't believe there is much we can do at this point without either infringing on others rights or creating a market scarcity among a multi-million dollar domestic industry.

tl,dr: idiots are the reason we cant have nice things
replying to say you must be one of the 84%, because the majority of people alive cannot have below average intellect. The majority of people alive are average.
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Originally Posted By poolshark472⏩
I don't own any guns, I'm not a progressive liberal, but why do people need assault weapons? I'm honestly curious. what does someone need an m16 for over a shotgun or high powered rifle?
there are two arguments I hear from the tards who try to justify it

1. IF DA GUBMENT IS OUT TO GET US WE NEED IT

2. CAUSE MUH RIGHTTTS
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
"Jamesbevis disagrees with our ultra conservative, trumptard, gun toting, white supremicist views. surely a troll"

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Originally Posted By Zackad⏩
by that logic, we should ban all .44 magnums, because those things will literally rip a hole through you, more so than any rifle would.

Srs question though, tell me the power difference between an AK47 that is semi-auto with a 10rd clip and a Glock with a 10rd clip? Both fire the same rate, both have stopping power? You could argue ANY gun is more powerful than anyone needs for protection, unless we're talking like a .22 for killing rats. So the only option left is to either ban all guns or ban none.
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You can draw a line that makes sense, as already stated I dont know the official class or definition of weapon but "handgun" seems like a reasonable line for self-protection.

the problem with so many gun nuts is they constantly try to force it as "ban all or ban none". I 100% agree with firearms for protection but that isn't what we currently have
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
You can draw a line that makes sense, as already stated I dont know the official class or definition of weapon but "handgun" seems like a reasonable line for self-protection.

the problem with so many gun nuts is they constantly try to force it as "ban all or ban none". I 100% agree with firearms for protection but that isn't what we currently have




both machine pistols. much more capable of racking up a body count than any semi auto rifle. It's just not fair, reasonable, sensible, or logical to ban only one gun when we have so many different types, all of which are capable of killing.
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
No kidding, but we don't everyone with a tank in their backyard because no good will come of it. \

When something is illegal, the barriers to getting it are higher and people are less likely to do it than if it was legal. So things that you dont want people to do or have should be illegal herp derp get it?
None of it is illegal. You can buy a surplus tank for like 30,000. If you want a working gun you just form 1 the cannon.

Same thing with a grenade. Form 1

Machines have to be pre1986. So you use a form 4.

Google it if you don't believe me.
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Originally Posted By Zackad⏩




both machine pistols. much more capable of racking up a body count than any semi auto rifle. It's just not fair, reasonable, sensible, or logical to ban only one gun when we have so many different types, all of which are capable of killing.
it could also be based on rate of fire. Handguns that only fire x per minute.
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If someone can explain to me why anyone NEEDS a high capacity horsepower car capable of exceeding the speed limit by over 100 mph and capable of inflicting death on anyone who comes in its path (10.345 deaths per 100,000) AND why they haven't been banned yet, I'll agree AR-15s should be banned (0.078 deaths per 100,000).
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Originally Posted By amsgator⏩
If someone can explain to me why anyone NEEDS a high capacity horsepower car capable of exceeding the speed limit by over 100 mph and capable of inflicting death on anyone who comes in its path (10.345 deaths per 100,000) AND why they haven't been banned yet, I'll agree AR-15s should be banned (0.078 deaths per 100,000).
Dumbest comparison I've ever seen srs

Cars have a purpose beyond killing people, guns don't.
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Originally Posted By jamesbwbevis⏩
Dumbest comparison I've ever seen srs

Cars have a purpose beyond killing people, guns don't.
What purpose do cars serve that makes high capacity horsepower carscapable of exceeding the speed limit by over 100 mphand capable of inflicting death on anyone who comes in its path necessary?
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Originally Posted By jbball92⏩
like the whole concept of an adult believing this is just a fake idea implanted by liberal trolls?

right?
We use to call them *******s...

But now all my gay friends are asking me to help them buy weapons and learn how to use them.

So we just call them giant stinking gashy poooosies.
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