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post 1583175671 07-02-2019, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
Red.

I don't wanna be that guy, but you insulted me first, so don't try to take the high road. You're not my height, unless you have the shortest arms in the world, not only that, but you weigh160lbs, isn't that what the average woman weighs in the US.
LOL ok actually it does look like my arms are short in the photo. Because my bicep is so big the picture is cropped to make it look like that.

And no, I am 170lb pure lean muscle.
What have you done with that higher threshold for pain? Did you like join the military in a combat role? Or are you just talking out of your ass while working as a construction worker? Is the pain you reference centered around your lower back?
I'll give you a hint that my career is in extreme sports.
I've been called a lot of things in my life, but never submissive and soft.
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Originally Posted By Tomohokk⏩
LOL ok actually it does look like my arms are short in the photo. Because my bicep is so big the picture is cropped to make it look like that.

And no, I am 170lb pure lean muscle.



I'll give you a hint that my career is in extreme sports.



Because no one has ever said it to your face
Let's not lie to ourselves, you're a manlet, it's apparent, and it's not because you're bicep looks big, because it doesn't.

170lbs of pure cope.

Janitorial duties is not an extreme sport.
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Originally Posted By Tomohokk⏩
was beat as a kid because I hung out with wrong crowds at school and would constantly get in trouble at school. Kids don't know any better. I had way too much testosterone as a kid/teen than I knew what to do with. And smacking your kids does work, it's a simple Pavlovian response. You can tell a kid not to touch a hot stove but some will do it anyway and learn through pain otherwise they won't understand yet. Your parents are lucky they had an incel, low-test kid to deal with.
Same here except the wrong crowd stuff.

Not every kid is submissive.

I wasn't bad, I was very curious/fearless, and very stubborn.

It's not a good combination that I'd imagine parents want to see in the sense of I used to do things that could've killed me.

Hell one of my first memories was burning my arm on the stove after my mother explicitly told me not to play with the stove.

Some of that "time out" parenting strategy only works if you're raising nerd you wanna sit in front of a computer all day long.

Kids like me, and when I was growing up, were out getting into ****.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
Let's not lie to ourselves, you're a manlet, it's apparent, and it's not because you're bicep looks big, because it doesn't.

170lbs of pure cope.

Janitorial duties is not an extreme sport.
This guy is 170 lbs and short.

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I grew up in the deep south and I understand that the phrase "beat your kids" is not meant to be taken literally. It's a colloquialism for keeping them in line. It absolutely involves physical punishment, but it's measured. Of course, not every parent gets it right, but many do.

No kids myself, but my best friend of 35+ years has 3 boys and a girl. I've been around them their entire lives. At the youngest boy's 11th birthday party the kid was behaving terribly because he didn't get the gift he wanted. After some back and forth between the boy and his father the kid blurted out "suck my dink." Now, the kid is normally super well-behaved, but that wasn't going to fly in any situation. The moment the words left his mouth I slapped the chit out of that boy and his father didn't even give me so much as a glance. He would have done it himself had he been standing where I was.

The boy knew better and he was testing the boundaries. I simply reminded him where they were. Of course, later that day after his pride was less hurt, his father and I talked to him about it, but we gave no apologies. The kid is 15 now and treats me with utmost respect and I've never seen him repeat that kind of blatant disrespect.

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post 1583198231 07-02-2019, 11:22 PM
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This thread needs more pics.


Scrolled two pages hoping for daughters/gif where they twerk etc.,
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I dunno though mang imagine being a woman (or for that matter a man) and your son is one of these incels who buys bath water from instagram celebs or something. Right?
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Originally Posted By Tomohokk⏩
I'll give you a hint that my career is in extreme sports.
Hmm... If it's martial arts.

Seems like more evidence for youtuber Stefan Molyneux's (I'm not a fan of his anymore, for the record) belief that people who have experiences of violence as a child, tend to be the people who become obsessed with martial arts.

Basically they become obessed with violence, due to violence being inflicted upon him from a young age.

From what I've seen... Literally every single martial arts instructor that I've known that has shared their pre-adult life story, has had formative experiences with violence. I've also noticed that trend with the best MMA brahs and boxers, when we find out about their life story (e.g. Mike Tyson, GSP, Diaz Brothers, etc).

This is one of the videos from Stefan, which pissed off a lot of people in the martial arts community, but he was spot on IME...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRuBO_VbGFI

I would guess that 90% of people who develop a lifetime passion for marital arts, had serious aggression inflicted upon them (e.g. Mike Tyson) or observed a lot of aggression growing up (e.g. Joe Rogan).
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Originally Posted By xoyr⏩
Strong parenting
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Originally Posted By ArchangelST⏩
No kids myself, but my best friend of 35+ years has 3 boys and a girl. I've been around them their entire lives. At the youngest boy's 11th birthday party the kid was behaving terribly because he didn't get the gift he wanted. After some back and forth between the boy and his father the kid blurted out "suck my dink." Now, the kid is normally super well-behaved, but that wasn't going to fly in any situation. The moment the words left his mouth I slapped the chit out of that boy and his father didn't even give me so much as a glance. He would have done it himself had he been standing where I was..
What kind of man lets another man put their hands on their kids?!

I really can't fathom that.

Even if I agreed with 'slapping the chit out of a child', I would in no way let another man step into that role and do it on my behalf.

I really can't believe he let you play daddy to his child.

Am I the only one here who thinks that is a phucked up story?!

Did he let you bang his wife on his behalf too?
The kid is 15 now and treats me with utmost respect and I've never seen him repeat that kind of blatant disrespect.
I agree that inflicting violence can be a good way to keep people from being a dick to you. Adults and children alike tend to be more polite to people who they fear may be violent towards.

What we are talking about is the damage in can cause (e.g. an overactive amygdala... Google: Amygdala corporal punishment.)
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
People who advocate beating children aren't usually the most well adjusted.What's frivolous, what can a child possibly do that would warrant a grown man beating on them?
How about threatening and assaulting other kids and adults? Imagine a 12YO completely refused all direction you put forward, cucks you at every corner with every trick you had in the book, and when you got down to his level to reason with him (I imagine you are one of those types) he punched you as hard as he could in the face. Would you stay calm and encourage him to make a good decision then?

Now consider he did this all the time, to everyone every day. He's the fukking tough guy of that age group in the neighborhood and every kids fears him, including several adults. Obviously the kid has serious trauma issues likely the result of severe neglect and mental/physical abuse, possibly including sexual.

But after he clocks you, or kicks you in the nuts, or punches/threatens your wife or kids, is there ever a time when you smack him on the ass, or clip him behind the ear, or push the little fukker off his bike?

I'm not advocating for or against physical discipline but your arguments are so loaded with BS and fallacies I feel like calling you out. Stop pretending that anyone who uses physical discipline is unhinged, inconsistent and "beats" their children. A smack on the ass or a slap over the head is a far cry from a "beating" and there are plenty of people who are good parents that hold different views to you and your particular cultural group. SMH srs.
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I wouldn't let a few bad apples spoil the whole image of daughters. It all depends on how you raise them. Look at the extreme dichotomy of the pic; one you have an aggressive (almost hostile) personality and mentality and in the other pic, you have a submissive, slave like adoration for mistreatment.
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Originally Posted By Mulloway69⏩
How about threatening and assaulting other kids and adults? Imagine a 12YO completely refused all direction you put forward, cucks you at every corner with every trick you had in the book, and when you got down to his level to reason with him (I imagine you are one of those types) he punched you as hard as he could in the face. Would you stay calm and encourage him to make a good decision then?

Now consider he did this all the time, to everyone every day. He's the fukking tough guy of that age group in the neighborhood and every kids fears him, including several adults. Obviously the kid has serious trauma issues likely the result of severe neglect and mental/physical abuse, possibly including sexual.

But after he clocks you, or kicks you in the nuts, or punches/threatens your wife or kids, is there ever a time when you smack him on the ass, or clip him behind the ear, or push the little fukker off his bike?

I'm not advocating for or against physical discipline but your arguments are so loaded with BS and fallacies I feel like calling you out. Stop pretending that anyone who uses physical discipline is unhinged, inconsistent and "beats" their children. A smack on the ass or a slap over the head is a far cry from a "beating" and there are plenty of people who are good parents that hold different views to you and your particular cultural group. SMH srs.
The thing about me is, I never demand respect from anyone. Respect has to be earned.

My wife has a 9 year old sister, and she decided one day to kick me in the shin. I told her to stop, and she did it again, because I'm male, and I couldn't possibly retaliate against her, again I told her to stop, and told her that if she behaves this way, one day a man will knock her out, and it will be well deserved. She kicked me again, so I kicked her right back. She went to my wife crying about my kicking her. When my wife asked why I kicked her, she couldn't lie and say it was unprovoked. My wife told her that's what happens when you decide to strike someone, they usually strike back. That was a good learning experience in how life is for her. But here's the thing, I didn't get mad, I didn't threaten to "beat her ass", I didn't yell, I didn't try to pull rank on her, not only that, but after my explaining what she was doing was wrong and why, my wife reinforced what I said. In the end, I was defending myself as opposed to beating her to discipline her.

I fostered a teen who was just as you describe, he was 14. His mother didn't want him anymore, because he was acting the way she raised him to act. As soon as he moved in with my wife and I, most of his behavioral problems stopped. He still tried to get over, as all teenagers do, but he wasn't trying to fist fight me as he would do with his mother and brother. I gave him something his mother demanded but never reciprocated, and that's respect. I never threatened violence against him, or even raised my voice. He never once disrespected me or my wife. I had a talk with his mother, and told her the issue was her, and her incompetence in raising him. She did not like that, but it was the truth.

That said, I'm all for slapping a teen, not a child, a teen, but I don't expect they won't swing back at me. Children can't understand why you're beating on them, a 15 year who wants to get violent might need to shown that he's not as strong as he thinks he is.

BTW, I'm Dominican, my culture uses violence for everything, and it clearly isn't working.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
The thing about me is, I never demand respect from anyone. Respect has to be earned.

My wife has a 9 year old sister, and she decided one day to kick me in the shin. I told her to stop, and she did it again, because I'm male, and I couldn't possibly retaliate against her, again I told her to stop, and told her that if she behaves this way, one day a man will knock her out, and it will be well deserved. She kicked me again, so I kicked her right back. She went to my wife crying about my kicking her. When my wife asked why I kicked her, she couldn't lie and say it was unprovoked. My wife told her that's what happens when you decide to strike someone, they usually strike back. That was a good learning experience in how life is for her. But here's the thing, I didn't get mad, I didn't threaten to "beat her ass", I didn't yell, I didn't try to pull rank on her, not only that, but after my explaining what she was doing was wrong and why, my wife reinforced what I said. In the end, I was defending myself as opposed to beating her to discipline her.

I fostered a teen who was just as you describe, he was 14. His mother didn't want him anymore, because he was acting the way she raised him to act. As soon as he moved in with my wife and I, most of his behavioral problems stopped. He still tried to get over, as all teenagers do, but he wasn't trying to fist fight me as he would do with his mother and brother. I gave him something his mother demanded but never reciprocated, and that's respect. I never threatened violence against him, or even raised my voice. He never once disrespected me or my wife. I had a talk with his mother, and told her the issue was her, and her incompetence in raising him. She did not like that, but it was the truth.

That said, I'm all for slapping a teen, not a child, a teen, but I don't expect they won't swing back at me. Children can't understand why you're beating on them, a 15 year who wants to get violent might need to shown that he's not as strong as he thinks he is.

BTW, I'm Dominican, my culture uses violence for everything, and it clearly isn't working.
You kicked a 9 year old girl, because you couldn't use words no good.

Shameful, should change your name to Devilfrd824.
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Originally Posted By BetaAsPhuck⏩
Hmm... If it's martial arts.

From what I've seen... Literally every single martial arts instructor that I've known that has shared their pre-adult life story, has had formative experiences with violence. I've also noticed that trend with the best MMA brahs and boxers, when we find out about their life story (e.g. Mike Tyson, GSP, Diaz Brothers, etc).
nobody was ever aggressive toward you as a kid? your parents didn't spank you? legit 90% of all males had someone beat them up or bully them at some point in their lives. i started folkstyle wrestling bc i was woefully undersized for other sports. i did some bjj bc i had a wrestling background.

the association is corollary. this bald dude letters from his fans does not meet the scrutiny of an academic refutation of what amounts to a bizarre (and projected) youtube rant.

he was very obviously molested by his karate instructor. here's a simple refutation of this FACT. all he has to do is write me a letter explaining that this didnt actually happen. i will claim to have received no such letter.
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Originally Posted By BlueSasquatch⏩
I think my favorite thing about the parenting debate ITT is the bros going at it over the best way to raise a child, while not having any children of their own. Take all your preconceived notions about parent hood and throw them out the window.
So much this.

"well studies say..."

Fuk outta here with your studies. Raise a couple yourself and see how your opinions on certain things can change. I have two completely different ones who responded to punishment differently. Kids are not carbon copy robots.
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Originally Posted By BlueSasquatch⏩
You kicked a 9 year old girl, because you couldn't use words no good.

Shameful, should change your name to Devilfrd824.
I'm shocked that he's so proud of beating a 9 year old senseless.
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Originally Posted By Godfrd824⏩
I have never needed to threaten violence on a child in order to control them and get them to behave. The fact is, if you are ok with "physically disciplining" kids when they behave in a manner you don't like, you must be ok with your employer disciplining you when you behave in a manner they don't like. Either physical violence works, or it doesn't. Don't tell me it's cool when you do it to someone else, but not cool when someone does it to you.
Dude. You must not have kids since you use the term "a child." Damn straight you should not be disciplining kids that are not yours. Kids act way different with their parents than other people. If you don't keep them in-line, this girl is what happens.

Sometimes kids 100% deserve a spanking or soap in the mouth, but it should definitely not be the go-to for discipline. I was a really good kid and even I needed to be checked sometimes.
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues⏩
nobody was ever aggressive toward you as a kid? your parents didn't spank you? legit 90% of all males had someone beat them up or bully them at some point in their lives.
I'm not sure why you directed those questions towards me... Regardless, it won't work in your favour.

I experienced years of routine violence growing up, and I became obsessed with martial arts for a while. My story was exactly what he described.

My best friend is a martial arts instructor, dude too experiencef routine violence growing up... Dude has been obsessed for over 15 years.

A former friend of mine is a martial arts instructor... Exactly the same thing, he had a traumatic experience with violence that gave him PTSD. Then he became obsessed with martial arts and became a bouncer too.

A martial arts instructor that I lived with... Dad used to beat the chit out of his mother.... Then he began training Martial Arts, and after his dad began beating his mother one day, he stepped in and had a brawl with his dad.

Whenever I've encountered biographies, interviews, and personally known instructors and fighters... Same story, they have a formative experience with violence.

It's very rare that I have ever known an exception.

I think that Middle and Upper class kids tend not become good fighters for a reason, there's a 'grit' or 'heart' that can only come from a rough upbringing IMO and IME.



I remember Mike Tyson on the Joe Rogan podcast ridiculing his Son's desire to become a world champion fighter...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGowztb1SQQ

His upbringing wouldn't have given him the 'grit' that he needed... Tyson knows that.
the association is corollary.
Perhaps.

I am talking about people who become obsessed with violence/martial arts... Anyone you know like that, I'll bet money that 9/10 of them had either routine or a traumatic experience with violence.
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