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Originally Posted By Dominik⏩
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Yo Dominik

Newest axe in the collection has buzz across the whole of the E string. Other strings are good, so I don't believe it's a truss rod issue. What should my next step be?

Hoping I can handle this myself. The good guitar tech near me is closed for the pandemic so my only option is Guitar Center.
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Originally Posted By MrBourbon⏩
Yo Dominik

Newest axe in the collection has buzz across the whole of the E string. Other strings are good, so I don't believe it's a truss rod issue. What should my next step be?

Hoping I can handle this myself. The good guitar tech near me is closed for the pandemic so my only option is Guitar Center.
How’s the action at the nut? Did you try raising the bridge?
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Originally Posted By CherryPopinski⏩
How’s the action at the nut? Did you try raising the bridge?
I'd agree, check the nut and bridge. And if you rule those out along with the truss rod I'd be checking for high frets.
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Originally Posted By CherryPopinski⏩
How’s the action at the nut? Did you try raising the bridge?
Originally Posted By DerkBezerk⏩
I'd agree, check the nut and bridge. And if you rule those out along with the truss rod I'd be checking for high frets.
I've never done a bridge adjustment before, so

1) I don't know

and 2) could be the issue.

Thanks boys, I'll do some research. Easy enough to fix myself?
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Originally Posted By MrBourbon⏩
I've never done a bridge adjustment before, so

1) I don't know

and 2) could be the issue.

Thanks boys, I'll do some research. Easy enough to fix myself?
It depends what it is.

If the saddle/bridge just needs some adjustment then there are loads of vids on youtube showing you how to. It shouldn't be a difficult job and it is worth learning how to adjust the bridge for action and intonation anyway.

If the nut has been cut too low then that's a whole other issue. Does the buzzing go away depending on where you fret the string?

If it is a high fret or nut issue you're probably better off waiting until your luthier opens back up or trying to find another place to look at it.

If it's a new guitar then hopefully it's an easy fix.
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Originally Posted By MrBourbon⏩
I've never done a bridge adjustment before, so

1) I don't know

and 2) could be the issue.

Thanks boys, I'll do some research. Easy enough to fix myself?
You didn't mention which E string, but it's not 100% guaranteed that the truss is fine because the other strings don't buzz, so you should check for relief in the neck. I have seen low E's buzz with the other strings not buzzing, and it was a relief issue. Did this guitar have this problem since the first day you owned it, or was it fine before?

Neck relief check: Put a capo on the 1st fret, and then press at the 17th fret of the low E and hold it while tapping the low E string at the 7th fret. How much space is there between the bottom of the string and the top of the fret wire?

If relief is fine, then either the nut is too or the saddle is too low. A small percentage of the time it's a high fret number coming unseated from the end of the fingerboard that's the problem.

All 4 are easy to fix at home, but if you don't have those chops, then any nut work or fret work should be taken to someone who does. Truss adjustments (particularly loosening, which would be the issue here if it is the truss) and raising action are very simple adjustments.
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Originally Posted By MrBourbon⏩
I've never done a bridge adjustment before, so

1) I don't know

and 2) could be the issue.

Thanks boys, I'll do some research. Easy enough to fix myself?
It's worth learning how to setup your own guitars. The only thing I need a tech for now if fret/nut work, maybe pups.

Great suggestions ^^^
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Originally Posted By MrBourbon⏩
I've never done a bridge adjustment before, so

1) I don't know

and 2) could be the issue.

Thanks boys, I'll do some research. Easy enough to fix myself?
If it's buzzing along the length of the string I'd be looking at the bridge and raising that saddle slightly or the bridge on that side if it's a Tune-O-Matic or Floyd*(*Ibanez Edge and Lo-Pro Edge have stud locking screws which need to be loosened before making height adjustments). What kind of guitar is it?

Get a string action gauge so you can make a note of what feels comfortable and keep in mind even with a proper setup a low action requires a soft touch to avoid fret buzz.

I've tried a really low action and the tone was garbage however I do like the nut as low as possible which I check by fretting at the 3rd fret and checking the clearance over the first fret.

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Thanks guys. It's the low E and the fret test definitely makes it look like that action is too low. I ordered the string action gauge and I'll get her dialed in this weekend.

It's a Lee Malia explorer. I'm not a BMTH fan but honestly this guitar has more of a rock than metal edge to it. Absolutely loving it - had been wanting an Explorer type guitar and this was sold by a local guy for $500 mint in the case when they're ~$900 on reverb these days. Gotta love it.

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Originally Posted By MrBourbon⏩
Thanks guys. It's the low E and the fret test definitely makes it look like that action is too low. I ordered the string action gauge and I'll get her dialed in this weekend.

It's a Lee Malia explorer. I'm not a BMTH fan but honestly this guitar has more of a rock than metal edge to it. Absolutely loving it - had been wanting an Explorer type guitar and this was sold by a local guy for $500 mint in the case when they're ~$900 on reverb these days. Gotta love it.

That's a classy looking Explorer. Definitely doesn't give off an overly metal vibe.

What pickups does it have and how does it play (besides the string buzz)?
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Originally Posted By DerkBezerk⏩
That's a classy looking Explorer. Definitely doesn't give off an overly metal vibe.

What pickups does it have and how does it play (besides the string buzz)?
Definitely. I don't follow Bring Me The Horizon much but his signature models seem more like he's just appreciating the history of the brand and bringing back these classic looks as opposed to "this is the guitar I play on stage".

P94 (yes really) in the neck and a Gibson 84T-LM humbucker with coil split. There's also a dummy coil pickup between them in the body to kill any buzz.

I've been itching to get more time with it this week tbh. Going to get very acquainted this weekend and report back.
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Originally Posted By Rolling⏩
How long did it take you to learn to play over each chord change and treat each chord as a separate event, targeting chord tones, etc.

Working my a** off right now, **** is hard mayne.
takes a while brah. when I started off it took like 1-2 weeks to nail down chord changes for specific shapes. solid 5-6 months to finally be able to look at a chord progression and learn it quickly.
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Originally Posted By MrBourbon⏩
Definitely. I don't follow Bring Me The Horizon much but his signature models seem more like he's just appreciating the history of the brand and bringing back these classic looks as opposed to "this is the guitar I play on stage".

P94 (yes really) in the neck and a Gibson 84T-LM humbucker with coil split. There's also a dummy coil pickup between them in the body to kill any buzz.

I've been itching to get more time with it this week tbh. Going to get very acquainted this weekend and report back.
I'm always impressed when musicians put thought and consideration into their signature models, instead of just agreeing to have their name stamped on whatever production model they get asked to endorse.

I feel like it gives the guitar a more interesting provenance.
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Originally Posted By MrBourbon⏩
Thanks guys. It's the low E and the fret test definitely makes it look like that action is too low. I ordered the string action gauge and I'll get her dialed in this weekend.
It should be a simple fix raising the bridge height on that side by turning the thumbwheel. No need to let some kid at Guitar Center screw around with your pride and joy.
Originally Posted By DerkBezerk⏩
I'm always impressed when musicians put thought and consideration into their signature models, instead of just agreeing to have their name stamped on whatever production model they get asked to endorse.

I feel like it gives the guitar a more interesting provenance.
Pete Thorn's Suhr is a good example.

I only play one guitar and it started life as a signature model. Had a custom neck made, spent months going through 6 different neck pickups, put an f-spaced neck pickup in the bridge, completely rewired it and experimented with different wiring mods using a bunch of different caps and resistors, changed all the hardware, and because there's nothing like it in production if it was stolen I'd have to start all over because that's the only axe I want to play.

My point is if I'm putting that time in with my own guitar as a nobody I'd expect a pro slapping their name on a guitar with a custom shop at their disposal to take the same approach and carefully go over everything.
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Originally Posted By Dominik⏩
Pete Thorn's Suhr is a good example.

I only play one guitar and it started life as a signature model. Had a custom neck made, spent months going through 6 different neck pickups, put an f-spaced neck pickup in the bridge, completely rewired it and experimented with different wiring mods using a bunch of different caps and resistors, changed all the hardware, and because there's nothing like it in production if it was stolen I'd have to start all over because that's the only axe I want to play.

My point is if I'm putting that time in with my own guitar as a nobody I'd expect a pro slapping their name on a guitar with a custom shop at their disposal to take the same approach and carefully go over everything.
I'd love to get into it like that with one of my guitars and really spend the time researching and testing different mods.

I just don't have the knowledge to do it all myself.

I usually just swap the pups out for something I know will sound good, and upgrade the nut/locking tuners.
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probably my biggest influence from back in the day, still playing the JS1000BP since 2006, liked this video and lol about standing up vs sitting down.... that shyt is real

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Originally Posted By SekkendSyklye⏩
probably my biggest influence from back in the day, still playing the JS1000BP since 2006, liked this video and lol about standing up vs sitting down.... that shyt is real
5:40 cocks up the melody but like a true pro acts like it never happened.
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Originally Posted By Rolling⏩
How long did it take you to learn to play over each chord change and treat each chord as a separate event, targeting chord tones, etc.

Working my a** off right now, **** is hard mayne.
Learning these things will help a lot:

- Arpeggios. This includes starting on a different step of the arpeggio and going up and down at will. Also it helps if you can play multiple octaves arpeggios. This way you can connect longer runs.
- Scales. The same applies here.
- Ear training. After a while you can hear the next chord in your head and you'll know more or less what degree it is relative to your current chord.
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Originally Posted By rollerball⏩


I'm doulbing down on this kid, he is just so f*cking sick.
Very impressive although it's a little strange hearing Holdsworth lines on the neck pickup.

Check out the massive balls of steel on this guy taking it on live with Allan's band for a tribute.



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Originally Posted By Rolling⏩
Awesome thanks man.

Been working hard on my arpeggios, knowing the note and the interval.

When I jam over backing track and focus on chord tones it definitely sounds better than trying to "guess" with a pentatonic scale like I used to. My speed of musical thought is still slow though lol.

Gotta keep on going!!
Yep. "Guessing" notes doesn't sound that musical IMO especially doing random runs on a pentatonic scale.
Still, improvisation is a skill in itself. If you practice hard enough you get to hear and "know" where the next note is.
Arpeggios makes this even easier because you actually know where the notes are.
So I guess ear training is something you should totally look into.
What that does to you is it allows you to know what a minor 3rd sounds or a perfect 4th or a major 7th.
So all this combined means is that:
1. You willWANTfor a note/set of notes to come next. This comes from experience with impro, learning licks, listening to jazz etc
2. You will"quick" knowwhere the next note is. This is again from experience and ear training. You will acquire the intuition that the next note is a minor 3rd and you will intuitively know where it is.
3. You will"slow" knowwhere the note is because of knowing the arpeggio of the next chord.

The bolder parts are the main things here. I know I keep repeating myself but it's very important to "Feel" or "want" a note or a set of notes to come next. Basically hear them in your head before you even play them. Possible a number of notes in advance.
And it's also very important to be able to play by heart ( aka intuition aka fast know ) and by theory ( aka arpeggios aka slow know ).
I say slow because using theory is a little slower but for a pro theory becomes playing by heart and by ear after thousands of hours of practice.

Some tips to develop your fast know is to make a habbit out of playing melodies your hear in popular/traditional songs. Either vocal lines or instrumental lines.
After a while you should get to a point where it just comes naturally to you to play a melody correctly from the first try.
Transcribing solos also helps A LOT.
I am far from being able to easily execute what I wrote here but I still surprise myself that I can sometimes play simpler solos that I know by heart in real time with the song without the help of tabs on first try.


Sorry for the long post and for the unrequested advice :P
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traded in my old LTD for an ESP E-II.

anyone have any recommended lessons that got them up to speed?
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Originally Posted By brosapiens⏩
I know I keep repeating myself but it's very important to "Feel" or "want" a note or a set of notes to come next. Basically hear them in your head before you even play them. Possible a number of notes in advance.
And it's also very important to be able to play by heart ( aka intuition aka fast know ) and by theory ( aka arpeggios aka slow know ).
I say slow because using theory is a little slower but for a pro theory becomes playing by heart and by ear after thousands of hours of practice.
This is great advice although it's worth adding that it's a good idea to sing the notes before you play them when you're starting out and even at an advanced level like George Benson.

Start with notes up and down a string (like playing piano) and then across the strings. You'll get a lot wrong but that's part of the learning process. Obviously it's like reading where you shouldn't have to say the words aloud as you read however at the beginner stage just like learning to read it's a good idea. As you become more comfortable you'll no longer need to do it. Great solos usually have a vocal quality to them so singing lines before playing them is surely the best way to develop that.

I can appreciate chops but nothing moves me more than melodic playing and especially the great players who can improvise those melodic lines over interesting changes and seemingly never run out of ideas. I love seeing musicians who areconnectedto their instrument. Case in point:

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Originally Posted By Dominik⏩
This is great advice although it's worth adding that it's a good idea to sing the notes before you play them when you're starting out and even at an advanced level like George Benson.

Start with notes up and down a string (like playing piano) and then across the strings. You'll get a lot wrong but that's part of the learning process. Obviously it's like reading where you shouldn't have to say the words aloud as you read however at the beginner stage just like learning to read it's a good idea. As you become more comfortable you'll no longer need to do it. Great solos usually have a vocal quality to them so singing lines before playing them is surely the best way to develop that.

I can appreciate chops but nothing moves me more than melodic playing and especially the great players who can improvise those melodic lines over interesting changes and seemingly never run out of ideas. I love seeing musicians who areconnectedto their instrument. Case in point:

Correct. Also Landau is extraordinary.

Btw I really like his work with State Cows which is the closest thing to Steely Dan we have these days.

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damn I know we've all seen him play this back in 2006 but doing a fresh take on 2020 its a little different, still blows my mind

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Originally Posted By SekkendSyklye⏩
damn I know we've all seen him play this back in 2006 but doing a fresh take on 2020 its a little different, still blows my mind

He released his solo album on his channel. It's fantastic, a good example of timing, melody and contrast between slow and fast passages.



It's so boring listening to the same cliche fast playing, nearly anyone can do it, what sets you a part is the music you compose. Studio guitarists will be forgotten, memorable songs will never be. That's why albums like "Flying in a Blue Dream" will be timeless.
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