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Originally Posted By HouseOfISRAEL⏩
LOL at thinking "tech" is the domain of smart people. I know lots of dumb people who are just good at regurgitating what they read. Zero independent thought or logic. Basically your average liberal.Nah I work in tech Loser
06-18-2020, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted By yabbayabba⏩
He probably installs fios or direct tvLOL at thinking "tech" is the domain of smart people. I know lots of dumb people who are just good at regurgitating what they read. Zero independent thought or logic. Basically your average liberal.
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Originally Posted By smsg112⏩
Not sure what your point is when I said it was technically a good shoot and he'd be acquitted.Why are you making assumptions when there are two videos online showing that the deceased suspect resisted arrest, assaulted one of the LEO's, stole his taser, ran away and attempted to hit one of the LEO's by firing the taser?
I understand that we all don't have endless hours to follow these innumerable cases, but if you are going to make such a brash statement, at least take the time to become reasonably educated on the evidence available.
I understand that we all don't have endless hours to follow these innumerable cases, but if you are going to make such a brash statement, at least take the time to become reasonably educated on the evidence available.
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06-18-2020, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
John Brown the most alpha American ever?The issue with cops using deadly force is a secondary issue right now.
The 2nd civil war has started. We have an active marxist insurgency underway in the country and we can't have cops just abandoning cities to be looted and burned.
The last 3 weeks have been our "John Brown's Raid" moment. There really isn't any going back now. The democRATS can't or won't reel in the marxist BLM and antifa thugs on the streets, a whole swath of wrongly educated millennials and generation tidepod kids from suburbia are in full agreement with BLM because they've been taught since they were little that America is fundamentally racist & evil (spoiler - it's not!), and internet tech and media companies are stoking the flames of passion of the mob.
Get some guns and ammo if you don't already have some. If the mob shows up at your door, don't expect the cops to help. 100% srs.
The 2nd civil war has started. We have an active marxist insurgency underway in the country and we can't have cops just abandoning cities to be looted and burned.
The last 3 weeks have been our "John Brown's Raid" moment. There really isn't any going back now. The democRATS can't or won't reel in the marxist BLM and antifa thugs on the streets, a whole swath of wrongly educated millennials and generation tidepod kids from suburbia are in full agreement with BLM because they've been taught since they were little that America is fundamentally racist & evil (spoiler - it's not!), and internet tech and media companies are stoking the flames of passion of the mob.
Get some guns and ammo if you don't already have some. If the mob shows up at your door, don't expect the cops to help. 100% srs.
John Brown the American Jesus?
John Brown the white Jesus?
How does John Browns raid correlate with what's going on now?
06-18-2020, 12:53 PM
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I understand police reform but this has gotten out of hand. I don't blame them for walking out. I would have too. It ain't about the money now. Without police chaos will ensue. I dont know how many times I have heard the word police stopping criminals from doing bad. Now with no worry of consequences they can do whatever they want.
06-18-2020, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted By BK909⏩
Was kind of wondering about that, too. Are we supposed to take the Confederate position in this metaphor?John Brown the most alpha American ever?
John Brown the American Jesus?
John Brown the white Jesus?
How does John Browns raid correlate with what's going on now?
John Brown the American Jesus?
John Brown the white Jesus?
How does John Browns raid correlate with what's going on now?
Nah, fukk that. I’m not doing that.
06-18-2020, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted By MrAWatts⏩
the forum skews conservative and somehow conservative values have become increasingly aligned with leo over the last decade. it feels a little "enemy of my enemy"- ish.What attracts so many bootlickers to an off topic bodybuilding forum?
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Originally Posted By MrAWatts⏩
It makes no sense since conservatives are supposed to be constitutionalists.What attracts so many bootlickers to an off topic bodybuilding forum?
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Originally Posted By IronBrahh⏩
https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/eve...eive-500-bonusthis
what’s the update on this
what’s the update on this
Every Atlanta Police Department officer to receive $500 bonus
Pathetic pandering they should get 50,000 raise to have to deal with this scum mayor and scum da.
06-18-2020, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted By AltarOfPlagues⏩
I find it very strange that conservatives take the cops side when they let leftists run wild and arrest MAGA types that are really just defending themselves. I'm sure they have their orders but it doesn't change the fact of what happens damn near every time. I still think this chit in Atlanta is a bridge too far for most people. Dude stole the cops weapon for Christ sakethe forum skews conservative and somehow conservative values have become increasingly aligned with leo over the last decade. it feels a little "enemy of my enemy"- ish.
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06-18-2020, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted By SwayWay⏩
I thought we wanted to disband the police. Now we are giving them bonuses? Make up your mind mayorhttps://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/eve...eive-500-bonus
Every Atlanta Police Department officer to receive $500 bonus
Pathetic pandering they should get 50,000 raise to have to deal with this scum mayor and scum da.
Every Atlanta Police Department officer to receive $500 bonus
Pathetic pandering they should get 50,000 raise to have to deal with this scum mayor and scum da.
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06-18-2020, 01:28 PM
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Good. I hope they rebound quickly financially.
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Originally Posted By TBO1313⏩
yea increasingly we force our preconceptions on these edge cases so that we can get aligned in our little groups more quickly.I find it very strange that conservatives take the cops side when they let leftists run wild and arrest MAGA types that are really just defending themselves. I'm sure they have their orders but it doesn't change the fact of what happens damn near every time. I still think this chit in Atlanta is a bridge too far for most people. Dude stole the cops weapon for Christ sake
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Conservative here. This chit is too all or nothing. We need some reform but shouldn't defund.
A main step forward would be requiring the FBI to pick juries for arraignment of police officers as well as the trial.
As it stands, the prosecution and defense are both in the same side and will stack the jury. That's where this has broken down....
Not race.
Okay everyone can resume dividing themselves now.
A main step forward would be requiring the FBI to pick juries for arraignment of police officers as well as the trial.
As it stands, the prosecution and defense are both in the same side and will stack the jury. That's where this has broken down....
Not race.
Okay everyone can resume dividing themselves now.
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06-18-2020, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
Letting the federal government start meddling with state/city business even moar is not going to help anybody.Conservative here. This chit is too all or nothing. We need some reform but shouldn't defund.
A main step forward would be requiring the FBI to pick juries for arraignment of police officers as well as the trial.
As it stands, the prosecution and defense are both in the same side and will stack the jury. That's where this has broken down....
Not race.
Okay everyone can resume dividing themselves now.
A main step forward would be requiring the FBI to pick juries for arraignment of police officers as well as the trial.
As it stands, the prosecution and defense are both in the same side and will stack the jury. That's where this has broken down....
Not race.
Okay everyone can resume dividing themselves now.
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
The FBI being a neutral arbiter is laughable. I srs think R's are letting this happen to push independents to them. Defunding the police will be an unmitigated disaster but will mostly effect the people who vote DConservative here. This chit is too all or nothing. We need some reform but shouldn't defund.
A main step forward would be requiring the FBI to pick juries for arraignment of police officers as well as the trial.
As it stands, the prosecution and defense are both in the same side and will stack the jury. That's where this has broken down....
Not race.
Okay everyone can resume dividing themselves now.
A main step forward would be requiring the FBI to pick juries for arraignment of police officers as well as the trial.
As it stands, the prosecution and defense are both in the same side and will stack the jury. That's where this has broken down....
Not race.
Okay everyone can resume dividing themselves now.
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06-18-2020, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
Decent point but I think one of the few things I would change:Conservative here. This chit is too all or nothing. We need some reform but shouldn't defund.
A main step forward would be requiring the FBI to pick juries for arraignment of police officers as well as the trial.
As it stands, the prosecution and defense are both in the same side and will stack the jury. That's where this has broken down....
Not race.
Okay everyone can resume dividing themselves now.
A main step forward would be requiring the FBI to pick juries for arraignment of police officers as well as the trial.
As it stands, the prosecution and defense are both in the same side and will stack the jury. That's where this has broken down....
Not race.
Okay everyone can resume dividing themselves now.
Less agencies, why the **** you need like 50+ agencies in one nearby jurisdiction? Where I work we have TWO and its hard to communicate properly.
I think we do need to let **** slide more. Walk away from arrests when we know it will go south (which to be fair we do a LOT) but there needs to be a compromise. When we walk away from a subject who is barricaded or running, and they know they're under arrest, when they finally do get taken into custody I think their jeopardy needs to be MUCH higher. So, if timmy toe shoes locks himself in a house after running from the Police for lets say a stolen car. Do we really need to get in there and get him now? Loud speaker his ass with your body cams on telling him his jeopardy, he refuses? okay mandatory sentence automatic when he does get picked up. I'm also okay with it not being jail, financial, asset seizure, whatever will work best. Just my 2 cents, sometimes we start fights because we know we lose the charge if we don't get him in custody right away
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Originally Posted By Carousel⏩
And on the police side?Decent point but I think one of the few things I would change:
Less agencies, why the **** you need like 50+ agencies in one nearby jurisdiction? Where I work we have TWO and its hard to communicate properly.
I think we do need to let **** slide more. Walk away from arrests when we know it will go south (which to be fair we do a LOT) but there needs to be a compromise. When we walk away from a subject who is barricaded or running, and they know they're under arrest, when they finally do get taken into custody I think their jeopardy needs to be MUCH higher. So, if timmy toe shoes locks himself in a house after running from the Police for lets say a stolen car. Do we really need to get in there and get him now? Loud speaker his ass with your body cams on telling him his jeopardy, he refuses? okay mandatory sentence automatic when he does get picked up. I'm also okay with it not being jail, financial, asset seizure, whatever will work best. Just my 2 cents, sometimes we start fights because we know we lose the charge if we don't get him in custody right away
Less agencies, why the **** you need like 50+ agencies in one nearby jurisdiction? Where I work we have TWO and its hard to communicate properly.
I think we do need to let **** slide more. Walk away from arrests when we know it will go south (which to be fair we do a LOT) but there needs to be a compromise. When we walk away from a subject who is barricaded or running, and they know they're under arrest, when they finally do get taken into custody I think their jeopardy needs to be MUCH higher. So, if timmy toe shoes locks himself in a house after running from the Police for lets say a stolen car. Do we really need to get in there and get him now? Loud speaker his ass with your body cams on telling him his jeopardy, he refuses? okay mandatory sentence automatic when he does get picked up. I'm also okay with it not being jail, financial, asset seizure, whatever will work best. Just my 2 cents, sometimes we start fights because we know we lose the charge if we don't get him in custody right away
How do we reign in bad actors?
Those that do a bull**** dog alert on a car.
Those that go into pockets on a terry frisk?
Those that enter houses without exigent circumstances
Those that coerce ID when you can't legally?
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06-18-2020, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted By leoslayer1⏩
I'm from Canada so I don't get half of that **** but I'll try:And on the police side?
How do we reign in bad actors?
Those that do a bull**** dog alert on a car.
Those that go into pockets on a terry frisk?
Those that enter houses without exigent circumstances
Those that coerce ID when you can't legally?
How do we reign in bad actors?
Those that do a bull**** dog alert on a car.
Those that go into pockets on a terry frisk?
Those that enter houses without exigent circumstances
Those that coerce ID when you can't legally?
"Bull****" dog alerts aren't bull**** if they find stuff I guess?
We don't really do "terry frisk" which I assume is investigative detention. I've used that **** like once, either you're getting arrested because i know you did it or i'm not talking to you. Is that a big issue down there?
Entering a house without exigent is interesting. Depends on the circumstances, I've been INVITED in to houses lots where clearly criminal **** is goin down. I never go in illegally because I like my job.
And my favourite. A good cop will always be able to legally coerce ID from you. Knowing your bylaws and statutes and doing some minor surveillance before speaking to someone you want to speak to is how any cop in a big city rolls. Usually results in a warrant arrest or a chit chat with no tickets, but knowing how the provincial offences procedures act interacts with the criminal code and your authority is the best way to ensure you are lawfully placed to speak to someone. that said, i can chat to anyone i want but if i wanna know who they are bad enough i will lawfully be placed to do so without stumbling over my words like a fool when they call me out. examples: jaywalk, smoking next to an air intake, smoking in a rental vehicle, biking on the sidewalk, etc.
THIS ALL SAID: I do think cops that break the law deserve to be charged, sent to **** details, or overly made to want to quit their work. EDIT* - or be fired. I also think that cops deserve quick investigations. 3 years to watch a video and determine if a cop should be charged is a ridiculous amount of time, i can write that file off in an hour or two or do the charge package in 3.
06-18-2020, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted By Beararms⏩
I would have walked out as well. Good news is laws are still in place. Any reasonable evidence that shows someone taking clear advantage of a lack of police presence by way of criminal activity will still be held accountable.I understand police reform but this has gotten out of hand. I don't blame them for walking out. I would have too. It ain't about the money now. Without police chaos will ensue. I dont know how many times I have heard the word police stopping criminals from doing bad. Now with no worry of consequences they can do whatever they want.
Best case scenario I reckon.
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Originally Posted By 78novacaine⏩
Scenario B already playing out in NYC with the expected results.Scenario A: Bad guy commits crime. Bad guy gets caught via police investigation. Bad guy goes to prison.
Scenario B: Bad guy commits crime. Police do nothing because reactionary policing doesn't count. Bad guy continues to commit crimes with impunity.
Which scenario is preferable?
Scenario B: Bad guy commits crime. Police do nothing because reactionary policing doesn't count. Bad guy continues to commit crimes with impunity.
Which scenario is preferable?
Watch this predator the democRATs keep putting back out on the streets (no bail required). Then guess how many times he'd been arrested before this assault. Answer in spoiler.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgutNQcc6Tk
Spoiler!
Rashid Brimmage. 31 years old. 103 previous arrests, including sexual crimes. Just walking the street in De Blasio's New York free and without any real fear of consequences for his actions.
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...b5m-story.html
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...b5m-story.html
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
The left: "She probably called him the eNN wORDScenario B already playing out in NYC with the expected results.
Watch this predator the democRATs keep putting back out on the streets (no bail required). Then guess how many times he'd been arrested before this assault. Answer in spoiler.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgutNQcc6Tk
Spoiler!
Watch this predator the democRATs keep putting back out on the streets (no bail required). Then guess how many times he'd been arrested before this assault. Answer in spoiler.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgutNQcc6Tk
Spoiler!
Rashid Brimmage. 31 years old. 103 previous arrests, including sexual crimes. Just walking the street in De Blasio's New York free and without any real fear of consequences for his actions.
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...b5m-story.html
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...b5m-story.html
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Originally Posted By MiscInformed⏩
i'm sure more funding for mental health and education will turn him into a good personScenario B already playing out in NYC with the expected results.
Watch this predator the democRATs keep putting back out on the streets (no bail required). Then guess how many times he'd been arrested before this assault. Answer in spoiler.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgutNQcc6Tk
Spoiler!
Watch this predator the democRATs keep putting back out on the streets (no bail required). Then guess how many times he'd been arrested before this assault. Answer in spoiler.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgutNQcc6Tk
Spoiler!
Rashid Brimmage. 31 years old. 103 previous arrests, including sexual crimes. Just walking the street in De Blasio's New York free and without any real fear of consequences for his actions.
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...b5m-story.html
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...b5m-story.html
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