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06-06-2023, 11:09 PM
#3361
Originally Posted By AgRyan
That's a good deal. I personally love Eotechs. Reaslitically that + a magnifier (if you want) is going to be perfect for AR15 ranges.



A lot of people, including ones ITT, lose me on the 2A "shall not be infringed" hardline stuff. I'm generally pro gun, obviously, but I still think there's people who shouldn't be allowed to own guns, and I'm in favor of having background checks run. Yes, bad people will still get guns, but I don't want lifetime criminals who refuse to conform to the laws society has in place to be able to walk in and out of a gunstore with a new gun whenever they want. Not sure if that's your beliefs or not, but I've seen similar sentiments posted in these threads before.
Gun possession laws are useless. What percentage of criminals are stopped preemptively because they get caught with a gun illegally? Statistically zero. They always get caught for something else, or commit a violent crime, then end up with the illegal firearm possession as additional charge.

Let everyone buy gun. Felons, whoever. Let them all own them for legal purposes. But add 25 year sentence enhancements for anyone who commits a violent crime with a firearm. It'll sort itself out a lot quicker than the current mess of a system. It also will save thousands of peaceful people from facing nonsense gun technicality charges each year.
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06-07-2023, 03:53 AM
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Originally Posted By AgRyan
That's a good deal. I personally love Eotechs. Reaslitically that + a magnifier (if you want) is going to be perfect for AR15 ranges.



A lot of people, including ones ITT, lose me on the 2A "shall not be infringed" hardline stuff. I'm generally pro gun, obviously, but I still think there's people who shouldn't be allowed to own guns, and I'm in favor of having background checks run. Yes, bad people will still get guns, but I don't want lifetime criminals who refuse to conform to the laws society has in place to be able to walk in and out of a gunstore with a new gun whenever they want. Not sure if that's your beliefs or not, but I've seen similar sentiments posted in these threads before.
Better solution, don't let lifetime criminals be free in our society.
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06-07-2023, 04:38 AM
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The amount of people in the ILguns subreddit saying
“I just registered my AR!” “Time to sell all my guns” “Think of the children!”as soon as the unconstitutional AWB went into effect was astounding
There was a document recently that said roughly 200k-ish applications filed by the passed deadline for the brace amnesty…of the 4-40mil that are out there. Just lol at ppl that thought there would be ppl fomo-ing to fill this out.
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06-07-2023, 05:02 AM
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The amount of people in the ILguns subreddit saying
“I just registered my AR!” “Time to sell all my guns” “Think of the children!”as soon as the unconstitutional AWB went into effect was astounding

As someone with children in school, it makes me rabidly angry that the knee jerk reaction solution is gun control to prevent school shootings. And it makes me equally angry that so many parents think it's the top priority in stopping theses shootings. Anti gun people as a whole are emotionally driven to the point of being illogical.
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06-07-2023, 05:35 AM
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As someone with children in school, it makes me rabidly angry that the knee jerk reaction solution is gun control to prevent school shootings. And it makes me equally angry that so many parents think it's the top priority in stopping theses shootings. Anti gun people as a whole are emotionally driven to the point of being illogical.
but but but that one bat **** crazy lgbtqxyzlmnop hyped to the gills on Ritalin and anti-depressants she/her/it that shot up a school for being bullied should 100% be the reason for all of Americans to turn their guns in. It akshuly makes perfect sense and will fix this
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06-07-2023, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted By Brozef
As someone with children in school, it makes me rabidly angry that the knee jerk reaction solution is gun control to prevent school shootings. And it makes me equally angry that so many parents think it's the top priority in stopping theses shootings. Anti gun people as a whole are emotionally driven to the point of being illogical.
Same. You'd think they could use an ounce of logic that the latest trans crazy on drugs went to another school first but decided not to shoot it up because of the security so went to the Christian school. Well no sheeit sherlock. All of these shootings happen at "gun-free" places and other soft targets. Nobody is shooting up the places with visible, armed security.
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06-07-2023, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted By Brozef
As someone with children in school, it makes me rabidly angry that the knee jerk reaction solution is gun control to prevent school shootings. And it makes me equally angry that so many parents think it's the top priority in stopping theses shootings. Anti gun people as a whole are emotionally driven to the point of being illogical.
This is what gets me about it. Both my parents are retired teachers, my dad gets it but my mom goes to the typical "feeling" female and points back to a gun problem. My brother, same, he's so far left he's unsavable. Will constantly point toward it. I've literally said this to them and it's like they dont want to listen because it's "hard." But i've said "so help me understand, a person on all sorts of anti-depressants who writes down and creates evidence on how mentally unstable they are, murders children and innocent people, usually in a suicide mission, and that's a *gun* problem?"

I usually just get Bert stared.
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06-07-2023, 06:10 AM
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06-07-2023, 08:32 AM
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06-07-2023, 08:32 AM
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i bought two streamlight protac hl-x replicas off china, the originals are made in china aswell

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06-07-2023, 09:49 AM
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i bought two streamlight protac hl-x replicas off china, the originals are made in china aswell

works great srs

wood recommend, cost me 46 bucks each
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i don't have a authentic one to compare but looks and feels good to me

they go for $200 here, miss me with that chit
hmm might grab one for the hell of it. How is the attachment? looks like a pic attachment only? Doesn't say how many candella but 900lm if accurate isnt bad. These remind me of the one I have from Harborfreight (keep in my glovebox) that was probably even cheaper…..bright as f, has the strobe and button on the back, has the sliding end cap that adjust the throw of the beam from wide to laser…..just lacks the mount (not intended as a WL).
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06-07-2023, 10:29 AM
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pics here, keep in mind my 5-6 yr old phone doesn't quite do it justice lol and the room is not fully blackedout dark either
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as you see on the last pic it comes with all the attachments etc that a standard hl-x would come with (compared with unboxing videos)


bought it here:

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as far as i understood it, the cheaper version is without the logo and the more expensive with the logos, i bought the "more expensive" one at $46 each
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06-07-2023, 10:43 AM
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Absolutely miss me with buying cheap ass gun ****.

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I love the anti gun libs who have no idea about the laws, what a AR is, calling it auto. My in laws are anti gun. Little do they know I’m packing most of the time I’m around them. If chit hit the fan they would thank me. I told them a buddy has a Hitler Buzz Saw and explained what that was. “But automatic weapons are illegal” nope, lots of paper work but they are legal.

Know your chit before you talk chit.

Thank god I live in one of the most gun friendly states there is, I can’t imagine not. I feel bad for who don’t live in a 2A state
Lives in one of the most gun friendly states crew. Those willingly living in anti-gun states have different priorities, it's that simple. Generally, pro-gun states also have a lot of other policies I value so it's a win-win.

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Biden doesn't even matter that much in the short term. Changing stuff at the fed level takes years and years. It's the people who vote for dems at the local level that are destroying stuff right now. Washington and Oregon are actually wilderness states with tons of outdoorsmen and they managed to convince hunters they don't need real magazines or rifles.
Both can be true. Look at what Trump did, for example. He's arguably not 2A friendly, but the multiple SCOTUS justices and hundreds of federal judges he appointed overwhelmingly were. There is also no way he signs any type of anti-gun bill that makes it to his desk. Yeah, I know about bumpstocks (why I said he's not 2A friendly), but that's more indicative of his ignorance to guns. It also wasn't a bill. Biden is literally actively pushing for extreme gun control. And fake ass 2A supporters, including people ITT, voted for that. ****ing insane.

Biden's judge appointments are also radical freaks that want to ban all guns. The president does matter, even in the short term. Congress is controlled by democrats right now. If they pass anything, Biden will sign it.

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A lot of people, including ones ITT, lose me on the 2A "shall not be infringed" hardline stuff. I'm generally pro gun, obviously, but I still think there's people who shouldn't be allowed to own guns, and I'm in favor of having background checks run. Yes, bad people will still get guns, but I don't want lifetime criminals who refuse to conform to the laws society has in place to be able to walk in and out of a gunstore with a new gun whenever they want. Not sure if that's your beliefs or not, but I've seen similar sentiments posted in these threads before.
I'm a hardline shall not be infringed person. Criminals should absolutely be able to own guns once they serve their time. If they're too dangerous to legally own a gun, they're too dangerous to be free. If they pay their dues then all rights should be restored. Now, I'm also a firm believer that there needs to be far harsher sentencing for certain crimes, particularly violent ones.
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06-07-2023, 10:52 AM
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I'm a hardline shall not be infringed person. Criminals should absolutely be able to own guns once they serve their time. If they're too dangerous to legally own a gun, they're too dangerous to be free. If they pay their dues then all rights should be restored. Now, I'm also a firm believer that there needs to be far harsher sentencing for certain crimes, particularly violent ones.
This. Im a hardline shall not be infringed person because…well…more along the lines of the slices of cake example. You kind of have to tow the hardline or it *will* erode away. Piece by piece.

Before you know it you get chit like the brace fiasco, and someone is going to spend time in jail over the BS.

And nothing good will come of it. We'll just stick our heads in the sand over the real problems of prescription drugs and the results of the "everyone gets a trophy" mentality.
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06-07-2023, 10:56 AM
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it all started with participation trophies.
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it all started with participation trophies.
As silly as it sounds, it's a good analogue to it. People get "coddled" growing up and dont experience the needed hardship, sometimes things dont work out, everyone doesnt care about your feelings, etc. So then they start to hit the "real world," whether it is in high school where they get made fun of a little by someone, college, or get in the working world and find out no one gives a fukk about your pronouns, especially if you just miserable to work with or dont produce.
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As silly as it sounds, it's a good analogue to it. People get "coddled" growing up and dont experience the needed hardship, sometimes things dont work out, everyone doesnt care about your feelings, etc. So then they start to hit the "real world," whether it is in high school where they get made fun of a little by someone, college, or get in the working world and find out no one gives a fukk about your pronouns, especially if you just miserable to work with or dont produce.
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06-07-2023, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted By RThoe
Absolutely miss me with buying cheap ass gun ****.



Lives in one of the most gun friendly states crew. Those willingly living in anti-gun states have different priorities, it's that simple. Generally, pro-gun states also have a lot of other policies I value so it's a win-win.



Both can be true. Look at what Trump did, for example. He's arguably not 2A friendly, but the multiple SCOTUS justices and hundreds of federal judges he appointed overwhelmingly were. There is also no way he signs any type of anti-gun bill that makes it to his desk. Yeah, I know about bumpstocks (why I said he's not 2A friendly), but that's more indicative of his ignorance to guns. It also wasn't a bill. Biden is literally actively pushing for extreme gun control. And fake ass 2A supporters, including people ITT, voted for that. ****ing insane.

Biden's judge appointments are also radical freaks that want to ban all guns. The president does matter, even in the short term. Congress is controlled by democrats right now. If they pass anything, Biden will sign it.



I'm a hardline shall not be infringed person. Criminals should absolutely be able to own guns once they serve their time. If they're too dangerous to legally own a gun, they're too dangerous to be free. If they pay their dues then all rights should be restored. Now, I'm also a firm believer that there needs to be far harsher sentencing for certain crimes, particularly violent ones.
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I'm a hardline shall not be infringed person. Criminals should absolutely be able to own guns once they serve their time. If they're too dangerous to legally own a gun, they're too dangerous to be free. If they pay their dues then all rights should be restored. Now, I'm also a firm believer that there needs to be far harsher sentencing for certain crimes, particularly violent ones.
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Just ordered an EoTech 512 from PSA. Use code "512" to get it down to $380, for those who are interested.

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I'm a hardline shall not be infringed person. Criminals should absolutely be able to own guns once they serve their time. If they're too dangerous to legally own a gun, they're too dangerous to be free. If they pay their dues then all rights should be restored. Now, I'm also a firm believer that there needs to be far harsher sentencing for certain crimes, particularly violent ones.
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The gov should have zero ability to regulate the 2nd amendment.
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The gov should have zero ability to regulate the 2nd amendment.
This. I think a real solution would be to stop treating POS criminals with so much compassion (thx women). Much tougher sentences and death penalties will make more people think twice before doing dumb BS.
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This. I think a real solution would be to stop treating POS criminals with so much compassion (thx women). Much tougher sentences and death penalties will make more people think twice before doing dumb BS.
This.

Criminals are basically getting treated better than law abiding citizens…which just promotes doing dumb BS.
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06-08-2023, 04:55 AM
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yup 100%
I cant remember what the guy says, but one of the dudes on the Drinkin' Bros podcast talks a lot about it. It's something like "minor conflict resolution" or "micro conflict resolution." Those little, BS hardships you experience actually teach you how to handle dat to day life as you grow up.
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I cant remember what the guy says, but one of the dudes on the Drinkin' Bros podcast talks a lot about it. It's something like "minor conflict resolution" or "micro conflict resolution." Those little, BS hardships you experience actually teach you how to handle dat to day life as you grow up.
it's almost like what doesn't kill you makes you stronger…..who would have thunk.
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Trying to decide between a ZPAP and a WASR10. Want to get a beater AK so I can preserve my Bulgarians.

ZPAP is definitely highly quality but I legit don't like how tarded it looks and how no mods work with it.

WASR10 for $1000 is hard to stomach tho.
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it's almost like what doesn't kill you makes you stronger…..who would have thunk.
Yup. Also they were talking to the cop who during covid got fired for saying they shouldnt be kicking people off beaches, entering houses to bust women doing nails, etc. Long story short the guy now owns a Ju Jiu Jitsu gym now and says the best thing is to see the younger-ish fids (pre teen and teen) come in and face the adversity. Even if they dont stick with it long term, just doing it for 60-90 days makes a HUGE impact on them. This was all around how he's put his kids in sports and now there are no winners, everyone just gets thanks for playing, etc.


and JFL and Gavin Pha gsom. NEW AMENDMENT FOR GUN CONTROL.

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i said this yesterday for the first time but ever since i got my ar15, my AK has become obselete srs
I'm all set with ARs and agree it's a superior platform.

I like 7.62x39 and more comfortable with the AK tbh.

You should try a Bulgarian over a Chinese one.
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i have a russian one pal
Fuark srs?

I thought it was a norinco.

Vepr or Saiga?
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izhmash saiga mk103, the "latest" version that comes with pic-railed handguard

So phukin jealous.
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