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06-28-2023, 06:40 AM
#3451
Originally Posted By EDcellent⏩
Stacatto crew. Only things left that I really want is a Stacatto and a Benelli M4. I'll likely get the m4 first as I dont own a semi shotty.
I EDC my 1911, absolutely love that gun. I think my next gun will be a Springfield Ronin but with a 4.25" barrel and in 9mm. I want the slightly shorter barrel to avoid getting poked in the butt by it. N-no homo.
Or I might just buy a 2011 stacatto and call it good.
I agree that high capacity for an EDC is overrated too. If the average self defense shooting consists of 3 rounds, carrying almost triple that is fine by me. If I need to send more than 8 (or 9) rounds at someone or multiple people on the street besides a zerg rush, that's a skill issue. For the record, I'm not against high capacity, someone could carry a drum mag and I wouldn't care lol. Carry on.
Or I might just buy a 2011 stacatto and call it good.
I agree that high capacity for an EDC is overrated too. If the average self defense shooting consists of 3 rounds, carrying almost triple that is fine by me. If I need to send more than 8 (or 9) rounds at someone or multiple people on the street besides a zerg rush, that's a skill issue. For the record, I'm not against high capacity, someone could carry a drum mag and I wouldn't care lol. Carry on.
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06-28-2023, 07:51 AM
#3452
Originally Posted By EDcellent⏩
Then you have a the jam/failure factor which is why a lot of people who carry auto's also carry a spare mag.
I EDC my 1911, absolutely love that gun. I think my next gun will be a Springfield Ronin but with a 4.25" barrel and in 9mm. I want the slightly shorter barrel to avoid getting poked in the butt by it. N-no homo.
Or I might just buy a 2011 stacatto and call it good.
I agree that high capacity for an EDC is overrated too. If the average self defense shooting consists of 3 rounds, carrying almost triple that is fine by me. If I need to send more than 8 (or 9) rounds at someone or multiple people on the street besides a zerg rush, that's a skill issue. For the record, I'm not against high capacity, someone could carry a drum mag and I wouldn't care lol. Carry on.
Or I might just buy a 2011 stacatto and call it good.
I agree that high capacity for an EDC is overrated too. If the average self defense shooting consists of 3 rounds, carrying almost triple that is fine by me. If I need to send more than 8 (or 9) rounds at someone or multiple people on the street besides a zerg rush, that's a skill issue. For the record, I'm not against high capacity, someone could carry a drum mag and I wouldn't care lol. Carry on.
06-28-2023, 03:30 PM
#3453
Originally Posted By EDcellent⏩
The average defensive gun use is 0 rounds.
I EDC my 1911, absolutely love that gun. I think my next gun will be a Springfield Ronin but with a 4.25" barrel and in 9mm. I want the slightly shorter barrel to avoid getting poked in the butt by it. N-no homo.
Or I might just buy a 2011 stacatto and call it good.
I agree that high capacity for an EDC is overrated too. If the average self defense shooting consists of 3 rounds, carrying almost triple that is fine by me. If I need to send more than 8 (or 9) rounds at someone or multiple people on the street besides a zerg rush, that's a skill issue. For the record, I'm not against high capacity, someone could carry a drum mag and I wouldn't care lol. Carry on.
Or I might just buy a 2011 stacatto and call it good.
I agree that high capacity for an EDC is overrated too. If the average self defense shooting consists of 3 rounds, carrying almost triple that is fine by me. If I need to send more than 8 (or 9) rounds at someone or multiple people on the street besides a zerg rush, that's a skill issue. For the record, I'm not against high capacity, someone could carry a drum mag and I wouldn't care lol. Carry on.
Or, at least, the most median and mode are 0. Like 80% are 0.
Just sayin…
Also funny you already skirted this up from 6 to 8. There is a reason you didn't even try to justify the 6 claim and already went up to 8
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06-28-2023, 04:29 PM
#3454
My concealed carry IWB gun is a G43 9+1 and I feel comfortable with that amount of ammo
If I conceal OWB its a G19 15+1
If I conceal OWB its a G19 15+1
06-28-2023, 06:32 PM
#3455
Originally Posted By RgrJNC⏩
I mean, normally you're an avatar of bad choices, but even a broken clock is right twice a day.
My concealed carry IWB gun is a G43 9+1 and I feel comfortable with that amount of ammo
If I conceal OWB its a G19 15+1
If I conceal OWB its a G19 15+1
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06-28-2023, 07:22 PM
#3456
Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
I said "shooting". As in the gun is actually used.
The average defensive gun use is 0 rounds.
Or, at least, the most median and mode are 0. Like 80% are 0.
Just sayin…
Also funny you already skirted this up from 6 to 8. There is a reason you didn't even try to justify the 6 claim and already went up to 8
Or, at least, the most median and mode are 0. Like 80% are 0.
Just sayin…
Also funny you already skirted this up from 6 to 8. There is a reason you didn't even try to justify the 6 claim and already went up to 8
And yes I was referring to the capacity of my 1911, which is 8+1. The gun I carry. I wouldn't be opposed to carrying a revolver if I owned one and it had a 5 or 6 round capacity. Hell I'd carry a derringer if it was all I had.
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06-28-2023, 07:35 PM
#3457
Finally MBUS pro backup sights came back in stock and was able to score the set for $119 (sale plus code). May still have some in stock if anyone is in need.
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06-28-2023, 09:58 PM
#3458
Originally Posted By EDcellent⏩
but what's the average rounds in a SUCCESSFUL defensive shooting???
I EDC my 1911, absolutely love that gun. I think my next gun will be a Springfield Ronin but with a 4.25" barrel and in 9mm. I want the slightly shorter barrel to avoid getting poked in the butt by it. N-no homo.
Or I might just buy a 2011 stacatto and call it good.
I agree that high capacity for an EDC is overrated too. If the average self defense shooting consists of 3 rounds, carrying almost triple that is fine by me. If I need to send more than 8 (or 9) rounds at someone or multiple people on the street besides a zerg rush, that's a skill issue. For the record, I'm not against high capacity, someone could carry a drum mag and I wouldn't care lol. Carry on.
Or I might just buy a 2011 stacatto and call it good.
I agree that high capacity for an EDC is overrated too. If the average self defense shooting consists of 3 rounds, carrying almost triple that is fine by me. If I need to send more than 8 (or 9) rounds at someone or multiple people on the street besides a zerg rush, that's a skill issue. For the record, I'm not against high capacity, someone could carry a drum mag and I wouldn't care lol. Carry on.
what if 7 people shot twice and died/permanently disabled and 1 person lived because he shot 10 rounds?
by your argument don't carry at all because average person never needs a gun, including some (probably most) of those defensive shootings which could have been avoided, deescalated, resolved by other means, or didn't matter because you shot less than 10 times and died.
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06-29-2023, 04:01 AM
#3459
9mm: only makes them more angry
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06-29-2023, 04:14 AM
#3460
Originally Posted By Brozef⏩
2 to the chest 1 to the head makes them very dead
9mm: only makes them more angry
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06-29-2023, 04:47 AM
#3461
06-29-2023, 05:03 AM
#3462
Originally Posted By Rajc⏩
I thought it was hilarious 😂
eyyo that's mad bruv
06-29-2023, 05:44 AM
#3463
Originally Posted By pUniCepts⏩
I was referring to 3 rounds from the FBI statistics of the "3 threes". My argument was never about not carrying. The opposite. I was referring to the revolver and derringer because something is better than nothing. Revolvers have advantages and disadvantages over semi auto, and vice versa. If someone wants to carry a 27 round or whatever Glock, that's absolutely fine by me. Open carry an AR with a drum mag, Miami vice chest rig dual 1911's (based), carry a single fire shotgun for all I care. Me PERSONALLY, carrying 8-9 rounds is a lot/fine/enough to me. Sure I might get zerg rushed by a mob when I move to Vegas, and I wish I had more, but what are the odds of that? If someone in my situation moving to a city wanted a "high capacity" pistol to carry for protection, please by all means. I'm not against it. Hey maybe my mind changes and I just get a 2011 after all. Who knows.
but what's the average rounds in a SUCCESSFUL defensive shooting???
what if 7 people shot twice and died/permanently disabled and 1 person lived because he shot 10 rounds?
by your argument don't carry at all because average person never needs a gun, including some (probably most) of those defensive shootings which could have been avoided, deescalated, resolved by other means, or didn't matter because you shot less than 10 times and died.
what if 7 people shot twice and died/permanently disabled and 1 person lived because he shot 10 rounds?
by your argument don't carry at all because average person never needs a gun, including some (probably most) of those defensive shootings which could have been avoided, deescalated, resolved by other means, or didn't matter because you shot less than 10 times and died.
Originally Posted By Brozef⏩
This is the way.
9mm: only makes them more angry
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Originally Posted By Horse86⏩
2 in the chest, the face gets the rest.
2 to the chest 1 to the head makes them very dead
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06-29-2023, 08:47 AM
#3464
Reasons why the FBI uses 9mm:
LEOs have a 20% to 30% accuracy rate in shootouts, so magazine capacity is important.
9mm Luger rounds have a deeper penetration than other handgun calibers.
FBI agents have been observed to shoot faster and more accurately with the 9mm.
The wound tracks of a 9mm and a .45 ACP are almost the same.
The 9mm’s lighter recoil makes it easier for follow-up shots.
LEOs have a 20% to 30% accuracy rate in shootouts, so magazine capacity is important.
9mm Luger rounds have a deeper penetration than other handgun calibers.
FBI agents have been observed to shoot faster and more accurately with the 9mm.
The wound tracks of a 9mm and a .45 ACP are almost the same.
The 9mm’s lighter recoil makes it easier for follow-up shots.
06-29-2023, 08:49 AM
#3465
Originally Posted By Brozef⏩
Sounds like anti-american propaganda
Reasons why the FBI uses 9mm:
LEOs have a 20% to 30% accuracy rate in shootouts, so magazine capacity is important.
9mm Luger rounds have a deeper penetration than other handgun calibers.
FBI agents have been observed to shoot faster and more accurately with the 9mm.
The wound tracks of a 9mm and a .45 ACP are almost the same.
The 9mm’s lighter recoil makes it easier for follow-up shots.
LEOs have a 20% to 30% accuracy rate in shootouts, so magazine capacity is important.
9mm Luger rounds have a deeper penetration than other handgun calibers.
FBI agents have been observed to shoot faster and more accurately with the 9mm.
The wound tracks of a 9mm and a .45 ACP are almost the same.
The 9mm’s lighter recoil makes it easier for follow-up shots.
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06-29-2023, 08:57 AM
#3466
I'm a .45 > 9mm bro but tbh, all pistol rounds are trash.
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06-29-2023, 10:47 AM
#3467
Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
I'm honestly surprised it's as high as 20%, especially when factoring in police shootings since they're fat retards and typically can't shoot for ****.
You're an idiot if you want any part of it to begin with
In a great deal of situations, there are multiple attackers.
Average hit rate in real life, you're moving, the attackers are moving, etc, hit rate for DGU and OIS is about 20%.
Even .357 mag is just a handgun. Handguns are weak and ineffective as a general rule. How does that joke go, what does a person usually do after being shot with a handgun? Whatever they were doing before they were shot with a handgun.
It's not the 70's any more, you can do better than six
In a great deal of situations, there are multiple attackers.
Average hit rate in real life, you're moving, the attackers are moving, etc, hit rate for DGU and OIS is about 20%.
Even .357 mag is just a handgun. Handguns are weak and ineffective as a general rule. How does that joke go, what does a person usually do after being shot with a handgun? Whatever they were doing before they were shot with a handgun.
It's not the 70's any more, you can do better than six
Originally Posted By Brozef⏩
Am I supposed to care what the FBI thinks?
Reasons why the FBI uses 9mm:
LEOs have a 20% to 30% accuracy rate in shootouts, so magazine capacity is important.
9mm Luger rounds have a deeper penetration than other handgun calibers.
FBI agents have been observed to shoot faster and more accurately with the 9mm.
The wound tracks of a 9mm and a .45 ACP are almost the same.
The 9mm’s lighter recoil makes it easier for follow-up shots.
LEOs have a 20% to 30% accuracy rate in shootouts, so magazine capacity is important.
9mm Luger rounds have a deeper penetration than other handgun calibers.
FBI agents have been observed to shoot faster and more accurately with the 9mm.
The wound tracks of a 9mm and a .45 ACP are almost the same.
The 9mm’s lighter recoil makes it easier for follow-up shots.
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06-29-2023, 11:51 AM
#3468
Some very based posting today, too bad all of you are on spread.
I'm hoping to be moved in to my new apartment in Vegas this weekend, and I have until the 10th for my first day of work at the new job. I'm trying to find a reputable place to get my CCL class out of the way before then. It sucks that I can't conceal carry day one, but at least I can still open carry or conceal in a vehicle.
I'm hoping to be moved in to my new apartment in Vegas this weekend, and I have until the 10th for my first day of work at the new job. I'm trying to find a reputable place to get my CCL class out of the way before then. It sucks that I can't conceal carry day one, but at least I can still open carry or conceal in a vehicle.
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06-29-2023, 12:13 PM
#3469
Originally Posted By Brozef⏩
Finally the FBI and I agree on something.
Reasons why the FBI uses 9mm:
LEOs have a 20% to 30% accuracy rate in shootouts, so magazine capacity is important.
9mm Luger rounds have a deeper penetration than other handgun calibers.
FBI agents have been observed to shoot faster and more accurately with the 9mm.
The wound tracks of a 9mm and a .45 ACP are almost the same.
The 9mm’s lighter recoil makes it easier for follow-up shots.
LEOs have a 20% to 30% accuracy rate in shootouts, so magazine capacity is important.
9mm Luger rounds have a deeper penetration than other handgun calibers.
FBI agents have been observed to shoot faster and more accurately with the 9mm.
The wound tracks of a 9mm and a .45 ACP are almost the same.
The 9mm’s lighter recoil makes it easier for follow-up shots.
I always carry a extra mag. So 29 rounds of 9mm Barnes TAC-XPD +P. 115gr. Not only for the amount of ammo but in case there is a issue, its easier and faster to drop the current mag and toss another in. I have a OWB holster that rides high so no one sees it even when I raise my arms all the way in the air. It has a extra 15 round mag and a Streamlight ProTac 2L flashlight. I don't even know its there, srs. Extremely comfortable since its OWB.
06-29-2023, 01:18 PM
#3470
Originally Posted By Brozef⏩
45 acp: WMD
Look at this gaping M’fcker! Just point it in the direction of a bad guy, and he will chit his pants. No shooting necessary.
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06-29-2023, 04:35 PM
#3471
Originally Posted By EDcellent⏩
I said "shooting". As in the gun is actually used.
And yes I was referring to the capacity of my 1911, which is 8+1. The gun I carry. I wouldn't be opposed to carrying a revolver if I owned one and it had a 5 or 6 round capacity. Hell I'd carry a derringer if it was all I had.
And yes I was referring to the capacity of my 1911, which is 8+1. The gun I carry. I wouldn't be opposed to carrying a revolver if I owned one and it had a 5 or 6 round capacity. Hell I'd carry a derringer if it was all I had.
I'd carry it if it was all I had.
That's a ringing endorsement if I ever heard one lol
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06-29-2023, 05:34 PM
#3472
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when will Americans stand up and say having a beer with dinner shouldn't forfeit their RKBA? You can drive a car at .07. You should be able to conceal carry at .07. Right?
when will Americans stand up and say having a beer with dinner shouldn't forfeit their RKBA? You can drive a car at .07. You should be able to conceal carry at .07. Right?
06-29-2023, 05:41 PM
#3473
Originally Posted By RgrJNC⏩
Move out of your democrat state.
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when will Americans stand up and say having a beer with dinner shouldn't forfeit their RKBA? You can drive a car at .07. You should be able to conceal carry at .07. Right?
when will Americans stand up and say having a beer with dinner shouldn't forfeit their RKBA? You can drive a car at .07. You should be able to conceal carry at .07. Right?
Just…don't keep voting democrat after you leave.
Problem solved
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06-30-2023, 05:04 AM
#3474
Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
Georgia voted for Biden and has democrat senator (s?)
Move out of your democrat state.
Just…don't keep voting democrat after you leave.
Problem solved
Just…don't keep voting democrat after you leave.
Problem solved
Meanwhile in NC the state legislator has a veto proof majority in favor of R’s rendering the Governor useless, voted for Trump and has two Republican senators
Georgia is a few election cycles away from CA style gun control bud
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06-30-2023, 07:24 AM
#3475
Originally Posted By criminal_manne⏩
Don’t let those facts get in the way of Farley’s feelings.
Georgia voted for Biden and has democrat senator (s?)
Meanwhile in NC the state legislator has a veto proof majority in favor of R’s rendering the Governor useless, voted for Trump and has two Republican senators
Georgia is a few election cycles away from CA style gun control bud
Meanwhile in NC the state legislator has a veto proof majority in favor of R’s rendering the Governor useless, voted for Trump and has two Republican senators
Georgia is a few election cycles away from CA style gun control bud
06-30-2023, 07:29 AM
#3476
Originally Posted By Farley1324⏩
That's not going to happen. These people are our enemies for a reason.
Move out of your democrat state.
Just…don't keep voting democrat after you leave.
Problem solved
Just…don't keep voting democrat after you leave.
Problem solved
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06-30-2023, 07:32 AM
#3477
Originally Posted By RgrJNC⏩
When people stop voting for candidates like Biden because the blue haired married liberal women they're banging convince them to.
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when will Americans stand up and say having a beer with dinner shouldn't forfeit their RKBA? You can drive a car at .07. You should be able to conceal carry at .07. Right?
when will Americans stand up and say having a beer with dinner shouldn't forfeit their RKBA? You can drive a car at .07. You should be able to conceal carry at .07. Right?
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06-30-2023, 09:36 AM
#3478
Originally Posted By cobhc⏩
I mean….it beats throwing rocks.
I'm a .45 > 9mm bro but tbh, all pistol rounds are trash.
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06-30-2023, 09:46 AM
#3479
Any vortex optic recommendations for a 7mm mag? Doing a long range clinic with my dad and he needs a new optic.
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06-30-2023, 09:47 AM
#3480
Originally Posted By JMath⏩
Feels good living in a state that still goes republican even if only the women voted.
When people stop voting for candidates like Biden because the blue haired married liberal women they're banging convince them to.
I kid! Sort of…
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