The problem is i think the top 4 QBs will go in the top 6 picks which is good but i dont see anyone trading up with us to get Lamar Jackson.

Yeah Edmunds is the oy guy i dont want. Like genus says, he just seems like a super athelete.

Would love Nelson.

Can we sign Allen Hurns as a 3rd/4th receiver and quit pretending our WR corps isn’t bad?

I want Nelson so badly. Basically fixes our Oline problem. Plz fall to us

Hope so but honestly wouldn’t be mad if we traded up a spot or two for him or even Chubb if he fell that far with the QB’s going like crazy.

They move him around for the best impact but he's typically taking on guards and centers….sometimes at the same time.

I love Nelson but I'm sure as chit not trading up for him. If he's there at #9 I'm ok drafting him but it wouldn't be my preference.

Someone brought up a question on the webzone how I'd rank my preference for us between Landry, Smith, Nelson and Davenport. Here was my response.

1. Landry - gives us a pass rush threat right away and I think his best football is ahead of him but unlike Davenport he's making an impact earlier and is a better fit for what the team is looking for from the Leo spot.

2. Smith - Suspension or Cut for Foster doesn't change this for me. He's an impact linebacker and he'd be a welcome addition whether playing next to Reuben or for him. However I don't think this position is as key as a pass rusher to the total improvement of the defense as a whole unit. I also think it's easier to find high level players at ILB or Will OLB than pass rushers later in the draft or free agency.

3. Nelson - the guy is a stud no doubt about it but this draft class is stacked at interior OL but awful at pass rusher and ILB so I'd go with the bigger need and address G later in the draft with someone who may actually be a better scheme fit

4. Davenport - I like the size, I like the athletic ability, I like the potential. I don't like the rawness and projection being a top 10 pick. I want a higher floor and someone who can help us right away even if it's in spot duty on obvious pass rush situations. Davenport could do that but I don't think he does it as well and is as much of a scheme fit at Landry.

cliffs version:

I love Nelson but prefer we go with Landry or Roquan Smith over him even if he's available due to the strength of this interior OL class and weakness at pass rusher and ILB classes.

It may not fit the typical go BPA, especially since G certainly is a need position but I think at the end of the day it's a moot point. Nelson will be off the board by #9.

Just caught most of Sherman's press conference. Listening to him wasn't as bad as I thought. He is very confident in himself and I like that.

Me too!!! Nelson is my pick unless Chubb somehow falls.

Not bad. My thoughts change daily but one thing that hasn't changed for me is wanting someone who is very low risk.

Sherman is literally one of those guys you love he's on your team but cant stand him when he's not. I watched a mic'd up show on him the other day and he seemed pretty cool. He talks a lot but I think he only talks trash when other players talk. He did get into it a little with Pierre Garcon a couple years ago.

idk why everyone was so quick to hate on him being signed just because of their dislike for him as a person. If you're actually impartial, it's pretty obvious that it's a good move for the team.

Looks like we signed another OL

Jonathan Cooper was a top 10 pick for Arizona a few years back. Bust. Couldn’t even hack it with all the help in Dallas last year. Not bad for depth though.

Cooper is a throw mud at the wall and hope it sticks signing.

3 first round picks at guard on the roster right now and we can't really count on any of them to be legit starters. I'd love to see Garnett come back in shape and turn into a dominant ZBS Guard but I'm realistic so I think odds aren't in his favor.

Tomlinson and Cooper are busts who likely never come close to what their draft pick was but we have the cap room so can't hurt to see what they can do.

One thing I know is if Suh signs with the Rams I'm scared…not that it guarantees Rams run away with the division but I don't want that dirty SOB anywhere near Jimmy G two times a year with question marks at guard. Donald and Suh is a deadly interior and almost unfair. Someone will get through and even though Jimmy can get the ball out I don't want either of those guys hitting him. Donald has a dirty side to him as well, both of those guys will be looking to take Jimmy out.

But at the same time I really don't want to alter our draft board just because of the Rams(especially when they can't retain those two guys on the same line for more than season or two at most) we have a lot of other holes and going all in on guard just because of the Rams would be a mistake.

Do they even have that much cap space to sign him? Haven’t really followed them much right now. But that would be crazy and scary.

Cap works in funny ways. Also depends what he gets. I thought Jags had no more cap room but they keep signing people.

I'm hoping it doesn't happen and honestly if I'm Aaron Donald and they pay Suh anything significant I'm holding out.

BEWARE… I was on an hour long conference call at work that didn't pertain to me so I wrote why I would and would not draft each prospect I think we might be interested in at #9. Yes I'm a draft nerd.

Harold Landry
Why he’s our pick: Has great burst off the line of scrimmage and good arm length. Edge rusher is a big need for us.
Why he isn’t our pick: Lacks a repertoire of pass rush moves. Most believe he is better suited to be a 3-4 OLB. His draft grade may not be as high as some of the other prospects available at #9
Denzel Ward
Why he’s our pick: Widely considered to be the best corner in this draft. Willing to tackle. Has speed and ball skills you want in your cornerback.
Why he isn’t our pick: Not the ideal size the 49ers covet in a corner. Also may struggle against bigger receivers and has some questions if he’d be good in zone.

Minkah Fitzpatrick
Why he’s our pick: Does everything asked of him and does it well. Playmaker in the backfield who played mostly safety in college but did play slot corner some too which is huge since most of the time our defense is in Nickel. Ideally he can play nickel and we’d have a great tackler if it’s a run play. A lot of draft guys have him as a top 3 skill position player in this draft. Tartt and Ward contracts expire next year.
Why he isn’t our pick: He’s better suited to be a safety and we currently have 3 decent safeties on the roster so are we really getting the most bang for our buck? Can he beat out K. Williams for nickel reps? Can he beat our Colbert, Ward, Tartt at safety?

Roquon Smith
Why he’s our pick: Smart, fast, tackling machine with great instincts. Was a team captain at Georgia. Players compared to are Deion Jones and Rueben Foster. Imagine having a clean Reuben Foster!!!
Why he isn’t our pick: May not value LB as much as some especially considering we drafted Foster last year but waited until he fell. This draft has some good linebackers that can be had in the middle rounds.

Trumaine Edwards
Why he’s our pick: Elite athlete with size (6’5, 253lbs), speed and strength. Seen comparisons to Brian Urlacher. Can cover a lot of ground and covers TE/RBs well.
Why he isn’t our pick: Not exactly sure why but he’s by far my least favorite out of everyone I’ve listed here. He’s fairly raw and doesn’t have elite instincts which leads to believe we don’t have him rated as high as some especially considering we may not value LB as much.


Quentin Nelson
Why he’s our pick: His NFL comparison is Larry Allen which says a lot. Do you really pass on a that? Fills an immediate need at guard and makes it a strength. IMO the safest pick in the entire draft.
Why he isn’t our pick: Only reason he wouldn’t be our pick other than he probably won’t be available is because he’s a guard which isn’t valued as much. That’s literally the only reason. But you sure can tell if you don’t have a good guard come Sunday when the defense is pushing your interior in and you cant run or pass!!!

Marcus Davenport
Why he’s our pick: Very aggressive tackler with good pass rush moves. Has a higher ceiling than a Harold Landry and is still learning. Started off slow at Senior Bowl but improved every day and finished with a big game.
Why he isn’t our pick: He’s still raw and doesn’t have great instincts. Are those traits of a top 10 pick? Not sure how good he will be as a LEO in our scheme.


I was kind of hoping I'd convince myself who I wanted at #9 but I'm still not sure. Guess I'd be happy with anyone of these guys.

Had no clue Reid was a top five safety that excels in zone and man coverage….lol

I will miss his tackling. I won’t miss his “coverage”.

Aldon Smith arrested AGAIN….god I hope Reuben Foster isn't another one.

Talk about a wasted talent. Don't know if I can deal with another flameout like this.

My love for Landry really shot up after seeing his combine interview. Hearing that he worked his butt off on developing that ability to bend around the edge really impressed me because it looks totally natural and it's not an easy thing to do. If he's able to work on developing moves like that and making them seem natural I'm not worried about him developing other moves. I understand his size concerns but I also don't agree with them. He matches up size wise with guys like Vic Beasley, Von Miller, Demarcus Lawrence, Khalil Mack and many others who have no issues playing in the NFL. Hell at this point I doubt anyone would question if Lawrence can hold up at DE but he came into the combine with pretty much the same size as Landry and put up much worse numbers.

Ward is my #1 corner in this class but I agree with the concerns. I do think he can hold up on the outside and shut down guys regardless of their size. He'd have a tough time with some size guys but some throws you just can'd defend. If the QB can make those throws and the receiver can make them…just have to give them credit and hope they can't keep doing it.


I'm a big Minkah fan but I agree at the end of the day if we go with a safety at #9 we're not getting the best bang for the buck as safety is a strength. I have no question whether he'd make us better…he would. But at the end of the day we have a lot of holes I'd like to see us plug up in this draft and safety isn't a top concern…assuming of course they stay healthy but not sure it's worth being that defensive.


I don't agree that this draft has that much talent at linebacker and no question in my mind Roquan is the best of the bunch and I'd love to have him with or without Foster but if it's between him and Landry….I prefer Landry because I think you can find better ILBs later in the draft(if not necessarily this one) or available in free agency. It's possible to find pass rushers later in the draft but the good ones simply don't make it to free agency. You have to take them when you can get them.

Agree…this dude scares me and he'd be the last on my list on the guys you have here. Potential is through the roof but he's so damn raw. I see Jamie Collins comparisons and to me that's not a good thing. I think our scheme is very much one where everyone has to be on the same page and do their jobs. This scheme is designed to not give up big plays…as fast and athletic as Edmunds is it's just a faster way for him to overrun a play or hit a gap he shouldn't be in and leave us open to a huge play.

There was a reason Belichick shipped away Collins for peanuts in a middle of a SB run. As many awesome highlights that he had he also had way too many times when he was freelancing and playing giving up his assignments and leading to huge plays given up.

IMO this kid is a huge boom or bust. I'd rather see someone else roll the dice on him.

I agree he's likely gone but if he's somehow there I don't know if he's necessarily BPA on our board. The guy is a stud no question but as I mentioned below this class is deep in interior OL talent. Some of those guys are better fits for our scheme. Taking Nelson is a sure thing so it's hard to imagine we'd pass on him because Guard is a big need…but I can see us going with a pass rusher or Roquan Smith if he's available because pass rusher and ILB talent in this class simply isn't up to snuff with G talent. I think Smith, Sweat and Braden Smith in the first 2 days is a better haul for the team than Nelson, Sweat and ILB in round 3.

I don't trust him at all but he could very well be the next JPP. I just think we need an impact player as a rookie and don't think Davenport is ready for that. To me he needs a few years and I'm not even sure he's got a higher ceiling than Landry. Not to mention this scheme calls for smaller, faster guys at Leo. Davenport may not be an ideal Leo fit when it's all said and done.

Lynch’s narcissism is a little much for me. STFU. Where is the benefit of basically saying the head coach wanted another guy and “mourned” for awhile…it took 5 games for Shanahan to say that’s our guy? You think he told Jimmy this yet you tell the world.

This is up there with the initial interview with him and the “my daughter cried” because the 49ers were so sorry or however he phrased. I’m almost on that fuk off time with this guy.

Get out the way and let Shanahan do his thing…keep bringing him mediocre talent etc. eventually you’ll be Baalke (except he hasn’t selected injured guys yet).

I thought it was odd to hear that story come out but I think you're also reading too much into it. I saw the headline and the way the writers presented it and was like…"ahmm why the fuk would he say that"

But as I read it the way it came off was "Kyle wanted Kirk Cousins but Jimmy came in and shut that chit down and showed Kyle he's legit and someone to throw a ton of money at"

I also think Lynch gives us a lot of opportunities and his relationships and his reputation have led to some good things for us.

He repeated himself twice with it. He didn’t handle like a professional, or a “team” sort of approach. Seemed like a “pat myself on the back” look how smart I am comment…and he really didn’t do **** but pick up a phone. Honestly, statements like that are what causes rifts between a Coach and GM, not saying that’s where it’s headed. It was just dumb af.

Anyway, excited for this draft.

Gonna have to agree with the second statement here. It just seems like an unnecessary thing to say. I'm not saying it'll decimate team chemistry, but stuff like that doesn't need to be said. No one wants to hear they were the backup option.

We're lucky the way things turned out like they did though, and I can't wait to see what this cast has in store for the upcoming season

Bummed…. I missed jimmy G at Disneyland this weekend. He was there Friday just like me. Oh well. I did see Robin Thick. Not as cool though….

I was tempted to fly out to Vegas after seeing him out there but restrained myself.

I gotta tell you if the Rams don't win the SB next year I'm going to really enjoy watching them lose that last game.

Forget about them being a divisional rival…just the fact that a team is going all in like that always makes me root against them unless they're the 49ers.

God help that team if they start out 0-2 or 0-3 or something like that…it will not be pretty.

The Rams are going out and getting it. It’s admirable but the next moves have to be excellent as well to sign the young talent long term

Like I stated in the previous thread, the comp picks will be a nice asset from Watkins and Johnson. They make those work next year and have an above average draft…they will continue as a threat for many years.

I “like” our chances to compete, but I truly admire the moves as of now. Maybe it blows up, but I like the risk. If it doesn’t, they will be a legit contender for years. McVay can coach. Philips has toys.

If you are being honest, where do you see the edges we have over them at positions? Qb for sure. I think our line overall will be better, linebackers? If Baron stays healthy, their secondary and line are leagues better than ours. Brocker is a stud. Their team is very deep right now.

When you have a good QB making peanuts (relative to other QB’s) you should go for it every time. That’s what Seattle did early on with Wilson.

I wouldn't say their team is very deep.

They have an advantage at RB, DL, CB.

We're better at QB, TE and LB assuming Foster is on the team.

Need more info to give the edge one way or another at OL, WR, S

However more talent doesn't always mean that team is better. We were way less talented last year and we pretty much won both games(sorry but the BS OPI on Taylor was just that…BS) We were also a lot less talented than Jags and beat them.

The fact that we have a better QB goes a LONG way.

At the end of the day we have to see how all these additions come together for the Rams. No question those guys are extremely talented and Donald and Suh coming after Jimmy scares me. But the Jags game last year gives me a lot of hope. IMO our team will be much better than the one who shredded that dominant defense last year. I'd argue that Jags secondary is better than what the Rams are putting out there this year. I'd also say their pass rush is as good if not better than what the Rams are putting together.

The rams are technically a 3-4 team. So having 3 of their best players on the DL be DTs is not great because unless they put out Brockers and Donald at DE and Suh at NT one of them will be on the bench in base. In Nickel it would be odd to see 3 DTs on the DL as well so one of those talented guys is sitting.

Also I understand the Rams going all in. It makes sense. They were an 11-5 team last year. They have a lot of their key players under contract for a few years before they'll be due monster contracts.

If they can win now it makes sense to go all in before Goff is due for his new deal which likely will end up being the highest paid QB in the game. Before Donald gets his likely highest paid defensive player contract, before Gurley gets his…etc

We're all excited about our future but we're still a 6-10 team. Before we can blow our wad and go all in in free agency we have to have a season to show that we're a legit contender. I hope this season is just that but we're being smart by not going all in because there are still a lot of holes on this team and still a lot of young players who have to show they're legit building blocks moving forward.

The Patriots built themselves for long term success. We should be doing the same. Let the Rams have their thunder for a year or two(assuming they actually do)…I'd rather we slow play it and give ourselves a chance to be the next NFL dynasty.

I'm going to draft Goff and Gurley in every FF league I'm in this season. That will take them both down a notch.

Looking at their overall roster, its not as scary as I thought.

They play a 3-4 and don't have any good edge rushers or linebackers for that matter. They do have the best defensive line and probably the best secondary but their LBs aren't that good at all. Offensively their WRs are Robert Woods and Cooper Kupp which are ok but nothing special. Not much behind them and no one proven at tight end. They have no one behind Todd Gurley either.

They are the offseason super bowl champs no doubt though. That doesn't necessarily work out all the time. Worked for the Eagles last year but the Raiders won the offseason what 2 years ago and they fell flat on their face. The Rams have also traded away a lot of their draft picks which hurts long term.

This team is built to win now and unless they hit homeruns on their limited number of draft picks and able to develop them they will be a one hit wonder. All of their stars are at the end of their contracts.

LOL me too. Kiss of death is coming!!! Maybe they put them on the Madden cover too!!!