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03-27-2018, 11:18 AM
#3541
The one thing I was hoping for was making Suh play the nose at times and him becoming frustrated/team problem
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03-27-2018, 11:23 AM
#3542
Originally Posted By SF49ers⏩
I'm curious what their plan is. Donald and Suh are very similar players. Do they play them at positions that don't accentuate their talent just to get them on the field? Do they rotate them? Can definitely lead to some butthurt for one of them. Plus you have Brockers out there too. They may use him as the NT and have Suh and Donald play 3-4 DE. Very interesting.
The one thing I was hoping for was making Suh play the nose at times and him becoming frustrated/team problem
03-27-2018, 11:40 AM
#3543
That's what I was thinking, Brockers as NT with Suh and Donald at DE. Brockers doesn't have the protypical body as a NT in a 3-4. But to be honest, under half their snaps will be in their base package anyways
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03-27-2018, 11:56 AM
#3544
Either way our line isn’t ready for it the way it currently stands.
03-27-2018, 06:05 PM
#3545
Originally Posted By Hoyer4MVP⏩
Have to see how it plays out with the draft and camp.
Either way our line isn’t ready for it the way it currently stands.
03-27-2018, 07:40 PM
#3546
That’s said and done. STL is putting a better team out there, and not by a little bit. They have game breakers.
Outside of that. Shanahan is playing 4d chess and I love it. I don’t think he gets anything out of Williams, but he’s trying to get the most….which I think gets Breida taking his game to the next level.
Shanahan is an absolute blessing. It’s early and it could go harbaugh considering the ego concerns…it’s like a perfect blend of harbaugh and kelly, which makes me think it’s destiny.
Drunk from the pelicans game.
Outside of that. Shanahan is playing 4d chess and I love it. I don’t think he gets anything out of Williams, but he’s trying to get the most….which I think gets Breida taking his game to the next level.
Shanahan is an absolute blessing. It’s early and it could go harbaugh considering the ego concerns…it’s like a perfect blend of harbaugh and kelly, which makes me think it’s destiny.
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03-27-2018, 08:00 PM
#3547
Originally Posted By iamgenus⏩
It’d be awesome if somewhere Garnett can play this year and at the very least be solid.
Have to see how it plays out with the draft and camp.
I’m still baffled we haven’t done anything at the receiver position. It is not a good WR corps. Period. Still pissed we didn’t get Robinson. I’d be much more optimistic if we did.
03-27-2018, 08:39 PM
#3548
Originally Posted By Hoyer4MVP⏩
I agree but I'm willing to give Kyle a pass.
It’d be awesome if somewhere Garnett can play this year and at the very least be solid.
I’m still baffled we haven’t done anything at the receiver position. It is not a good WR corps. Period. Still pissed we didn’t get Robinson. I’d be much more optimistic if we did.
I’m still baffled we haven’t done anything at the receiver position. It is not a good WR corps. Period. Still pissed we didn’t get Robinson. I’d be much more optimistic if we did.
He's shown that if he sees a player who he considers a must have to get his offense to another level he goes after them regardless if it's a popular opinion or not.
We saw it last year with paying Juice all that money and we saw it this free agency with Richburg and McKinnon.
He wanted them and wouldn't be outbid. So the fact that it seems we didn't even make an offer to Robinson means he wasn't super excited about him.
I'll be very curious to see if we address WR in the draft. Lots of options in the middle rounds with some big targets available.
Hopefully Garnett steps up and not only wins one of the guard jobs but plays very well there. I'd love to land Braden Smith in the 2nd/3rd round to fight for the other spot.
03-28-2018, 10:40 AM
#3549
Didn't I see where Kyle basically stated the team shouldn't be throwing out max contracts to average WRs when he was asked about why the Niners didn't bring in a top free agent WR.
I'm thinking the team is really high on Kendrick Bourne. I was rooting for him when he had a shot to make the 53 last year and he did have a small impact towards the end of the season.
I'm thinking the team is really high on Kendrick Bourne. I was rooting for him when he had a shot to make the 53 last year and he did have a small impact towards the end of the season.
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03-28-2018, 12:23 PM
#3550
Originally Posted By Miked1978⏩
Bourne showed some nice things last year. Excited to see what he can do with more time in the offense. A rookie undrafted free agent in a scheme this complicated who couldn't even practice due to the stupid graduation rules is pretty impressive.
Didn't I see where Kyle basically stated the team shouldn't be throwing out max contracts to average WRs when he was asked about why the Niners didn't bring in a top free agent WR.
I'm thinking the team is really high on Kendrick Bourne. I was rooting for him when he had a shot to make the 53 last year and he did have a small impact towards the end of the season.
I'm thinking the team is really high on Kendrick Bourne. I was rooting for him when he had a shot to make the 53 last year and he did have a small impact towards the end of the season.
I'm pretty excited about this WR class too. I think we can find some potential steals on day 3 if we don't target WR early.
Here are guys I'd like to see here
DaeSean Hamilton
Trey Quinn
Marcell Ateman
Korey Robertson
Daurice Fountain
Richie James
03-29-2018, 01:50 PM
#3551
The more I look at it, the more I like the Richburg signing.
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03-29-2018, 07:09 PM
#3552
Originally Posted By EvilChicken⏩
I'm hoping Richburg will be our Alex Mack…he may not be as talented but hopefully he comes close.
The more I look at it, the more I like the Richburg signing.
https://twitter.com/FB_FilmAnalysis/...53522038042624
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Also seeing people starting to climb on board with the Harold Landry going earlier talk. He's easily in the lead for me at 9 for us. Roquan Smith is my 2nd choice with a good sized gap after him.
IMO we draft Landry if we have him graded as high as I have him and want to address Leo. We take Smith if his grade is much higher or they think they can draft an ok Leo prospect later and Smith's ability to cover is too good to pass up from LB.
I'm a bit nervous we could fall for Edmunds and his potential to be a hybrid but hope it's between Landry or Smith or trade down.
03-30-2018, 12:04 AM
#3553
You guys hear the rumors about the Patriots willing to trade Gronk? What do you think?
03-30-2018, 06:48 AM
#3554
Originally Posted By Mparserz⏩
Sign me up. 3rd round pick at most though. Gronk is a beast but we all know he has trouble staying healthy and wants a new deal soon.
You guys hear the rumors about the Patriots willing to trade Gronk? What do you think?
However he and Kittle would be fuking BEASTS in this offense.
We'd have the sickest 22 personnel group out there by far.
04-03-2018, 03:02 PM
#3555
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Once again they are making some moves. Going to be a crazy season.
Once again they are making some moves. Going to be a crazy season.
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04-03-2018, 03:06 PM
#3556
Originally Posted By jwtiger69⏩
We'll see how it turns out for them. They traded a 2nd rounder for Watkins and then couldn't even keep him. May end up having another one year rental in Cooks but for a first rounder this time.
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Once again they are making some moves. Going to be a crazy season.
Once again they are making some moves. Going to be a crazy season.
All the pressure is on the Rams to win this year. I'd love to see us take the division from them as their dream team underperformed with the sky high expectations.
04-03-2018, 06:41 PM
#3557
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04-03-2018, 06:52 PM
#3558
Lol. I'd have no problems with Ward but who the fuk is Chad Forbes?
04-04-2018, 11:47 AM
#3559
Originally Posted By iamgenus⏩
Some guy that thought “card” needed to be capitalized.
Lol. I'd have no problems with Ward but who the fuk is Chad Forbes?
Seriously though, I’d be fine with Ward but what really bothers me is (if this is true) Lynch needs to shut up. He’s not in the media anymore. Quit letting things leak.
04-04-2018, 03:21 PM
#3560
Originally Posted By Hoyer4MVP⏩
We'll see what happens but I don't think anything really leaked from what we really wanted last year. The Rueben Foster love was out there but nothing in regards to Solomon or any of the other guys we drafted.
Some guy that thought “card” needed to be capitalized.
Seriously though, I’d be fine with Ward but what really bothers me is (if this is true) Lynch needs to shut up. He’s not in the media anymore. Quit letting things leak.
Seriously though, I’d be fine with Ward but what really bothers me is (if this is true) Lynch needs to shut up. He’s not in the media anymore. Quit letting things leak.
I'm hoping it's more smoke screen and us going after Landry. He makes so much sense to me I'm hoping he's the guy and if not Roquan Smith, Ward would be my 3rd choice….assuming of cpurse Nelson is off the board.
Just don't want Tremaine Edmunds or Marcus Davenport or either of the two safeties.
04-04-2018, 04:51 PM
#3561
Originally Posted By iamgenus⏩
Well they clearly weren’t in love with Thomas and then he went out and told the whole story about the Garoppolo trade and then we heard about how they really wanted Cousins until Jimmy G played like 3 games.
We'll see what happens but I don't think anything really leaked from what we really wanted last year. The Rueben Foster love was out there but nothing in regards to Solomon or any of the other guys we drafted.
I'm hoping it's more smoke screen and us going after Landry. He makes so much sense to me I'm hoping he's the guy and if not Roquan Smith, Ward would be my 3rd choice….assuming of cpurse Nelson is off the board.
Just don't want Tremaine Edmunds or Marcus Davenport or either of the two safeties.
I'm hoping it's more smoke screen and us going after Landry. He makes so much sense to me I'm hoping he's the guy and if not Roquan Smith, Ward would be my 3rd choice….assuming of cpurse Nelson is off the board.
Just don't want Tremaine Edmunds or Marcus Davenport or either of the two safeties.
Just keep it buttoned up, dude. Nothing good comes out of telling everyone everything behind the scenes.
04-04-2018, 06:06 PM
#3562
Move over Genus, im getting on board the Landry train. Assuming Quentin Nelson is gone.
My preference:
Nelson
Landry
Smith
My preference:
Nelson
Landry
Smith
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04-04-2018, 07:33 PM
#3563
Originally Posted By Miked1978⏩
I'll make room bro. Would be thrilled with any of those 3.
Move over Genus, im getting on board the Landry train. Assuming Quentin Nelson is gone.
My preference:
Nelson
Landry
Smith
My preference:
Nelson
Landry
Smith
The guys who will bum be out are
Davenport - too raw, not a great fit at Leo IMO
Edmunds - too raw, great talent but lots of out of position bad read plays that lead to huge plays when guys play out of scheme
Fitzpatrick - love the player but even at corner or safety he's putting a good player on the bench
James - same as Minkah. Don't want safety in the first.
Arden Key I wouldn't touch til day 3…maybe take him off the board all together. He's the Joe Williams on defense.
04-05-2018, 09:58 AM
#3564
Originally Posted By iamgenus⏩
i like Landry and Edmunds. I dont think we need Edmunds as much as we need an Edge rusher tho. It'd be a gamble drafting him and trying to develop him into an edge player. He's got gobs of potential tho.
I'll make room bro. Would be thrilled with any of those 3.
The guys who will bum be out are
Davenport - too raw, not a great fit at Leo IMO
Edmunds - too raw, great talent but lots of out of position bad read plays that lead to huge plays when guys play out of scheme
Fitzpatrick - love the player but even at corner or safety he's putting a good player on the bench
James - same as Minkah. Don't want safety in the first.
Arden Key I wouldn't touch til day 3…maybe take him off the board all together. He's the Joe Williams on defense.
The guys who will bum be out are
Davenport - too raw, not a great fit at Leo IMO
Edmunds - too raw, great talent but lots of out of position bad read plays that lead to huge plays when guys play out of scheme
Fitzpatrick - love the player but even at corner or safety he's putting a good player on the bench
James - same as Minkah. Don't want safety in the first.
Arden Key I wouldn't touch til day 3…maybe take him off the board all together. He's the Joe Williams on defense.
Only knock on Davenport is that he went to UTSA.
I'd be ok with trading down TBH, and still being able to grab Landry or Davenport. But yes, i dont see Safety as a need, at all.
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04-05-2018, 10:19 AM
#3565
Originally Posted By iamgenus⏩
I have a strange feeling D Ward is who we will be picking. He's probably #5 on my list but just based on who we currently have on the roster we literally have no one behind Sherman and Witherspoon.
I'll make room bro. Would be thrilled with any of those 3.
The guys who will bum be out are
Davenport - too raw, not a great fit at Leo IMO
Edmunds - too raw, great talent but lots of out of position bad read plays that lead to huge plays when guys play out of scheme
Fitzpatrick - love the player but even at corner or safety he's putting a good player on the bench
James - same as Minkah. Don't want safety in the first.
Arden Key I wouldn't touch til day 3…maybe take him off the board all together. He's the Joe Williams on defense.
The guys who will bum be out are
Davenport - too raw, not a great fit at Leo IMO
Edmunds - too raw, great talent but lots of out of position bad read plays that lead to huge plays when guys play out of scheme
Fitzpatrick - love the player but even at corner or safety he's putting a good player on the bench
James - same as Minkah. Don't want safety in the first.
Arden Key I wouldn't touch til day 3…maybe take him off the board all together. He's the Joe Williams on defense.
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04-05-2018, 06:51 PM
#3566
Originally Posted By Nara62629⏩
Nara! How you been dude? Haven't seen you post in forever.
i like Landry and Edmunds. I dont think we need Edmunds as much as we need an Edge rusher tho. It'd be a gamble drafting him and trying to develop him into an edge player. He's got gobs of potential tho.
Only knock on Davenport is that he went to UTSA.
I'd be ok with trading down TBH, and still being able to grab Landry or Davenport. But yes, i dont see Safety as a need, at all.
Only knock on Davenport is that he went to UTSA.
I'd be ok with trading down TBH, and still being able to grab Landry or Davenport. But yes, i dont see Safety as a need, at all.
Edmunds to me is major boom or bust. Rather someone else roll the dice.
04-06-2018, 07:24 AM
#3567
Originally Posted By iamgenus⏩
I'm good Gene, just took a little break from the misc, but you know when it comes to the Niners, i love this place.
Nara! How you been dude? Haven't seen you post in forever.
Edmunds to me is major boom or bust. Rather someone else roll the dice.
Edmunds to me is major boom or bust. Rather someone else roll the dice.
I think Edmunds is boom or good. At worst he's a rangy ILB. At best…we move can him around and have an Urlacher in the middle or a Suggs on the edge.
We do still have a lot of holes, but i think we can grab a DB and WR in the later rounds. We need an EDGE player and Edmunds isnt that guy yet, i'm just so intrigued by his potential.
I would be just as happy with Landry tho. I think his Junior season speaks for itself. He had a down senior yr cuz of injury, he can be a double digit sack guy in the NFL.
We should be looking at an edge player early since those guys are rarely found outside of the first 2 rounds. OT that we can groom to take over for Staley/Brown in 2 or 3. and i think we can find another long armed DB that we can bring along like we did Akhello.
I'm sure Shanny also has some WR/RB in the later rounds that fit his scheme.
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04-06-2018, 07:37 AM
#3568
Originally Posted By Nara62629⏩
Don't blame you for taking a break from this place lol but always good to have old school 49er bros in here posting. We've lost a few over the years but maybe Jimmy G will bring some back.
I'm good Gene, just took a little break from the misc, but you know when it comes to the Niners, i love this place.
I think Edmunds is boom or good. At worst he's a rangy ILB. At best…we move can him around and have an Urlacher in the middle or a Suggs on the edge.
We do still have a lot of holes, but i think we can grab a DB and WR in the later rounds. We need an EDGE player and Edmunds isnt that guy yet, i'm just so intrigued by his potential.
I would be just as happy with Landry tho. I think his Junior season speaks for itself. He had a down senior yr cuz of injury, he can be a double digit sack guy in the NFL.
We should be looking at an edge player early since those guys are rarely found outside of the first 2 rounds. OT that we can groom to take over for Staley/Brown in 2 or 3. and i think we can find another long armed DB that we can bring along like we did Akhello.
I'm sure Shanny also has some WR/RB in the later rounds that fit his scheme.
I'm so excited for the season to start, and then i remember its only April…
I think Edmunds is boom or good. At worst he's a rangy ILB. At best…we move can him around and have an Urlacher in the middle or a Suggs on the edge.
We do still have a lot of holes, but i think we can grab a DB and WR in the later rounds. We need an EDGE player and Edmunds isnt that guy yet, i'm just so intrigued by his potential.
I would be just as happy with Landry tho. I think his Junior season speaks for itself. He had a down senior yr cuz of injury, he can be a double digit sack guy in the NFL.
We should be looking at an edge player early since those guys are rarely found outside of the first 2 rounds. OT that we can groom to take over for Staley/Brown in 2 or 3. and i think we can find another long armed DB that we can bring along like we did Akhello.
I'm sure Shanny also has some WR/RB in the later rounds that fit his scheme.
I'm so excited for the season to start, and then i remember its only April…
Edmunds to me is similar to Jamie Collins - elite talent, makes some jaw dropping highlight plays but also someone who worries me in terms of instincts, recognition and playing within the scheme. It may seem weird coming from me since I was the biggest Kap fan but he reminds me of the LB version of Kap. Elite talent, can make great plays but slow in what he sees. Took me a while to admit that while Kap wasn't stupid and knew X's and O's but on the field he just couldn't process what he was seeing as fast as he needed to and it limited his ability to play QB.
Edmunds scares me because despite being really young and talented I hate the idea that his weakness is essentially being a smart football player. Can he develop and put the athletic ability with the mental game? Possibly but the fact that he's so far away I'm hoping another team takes him.
If we're not going Landry then Roquan Smith is my guy. He doesnt have the size of Edmunds and maybe not the potential but his ability to track the ball and get to him is crazy and he's great in coverage as well.
IMO today's offenses especially in the NFC West are moving to more RB heavy schemes but in the passing game. So you either have to make sure the QB can't get the ball out quick enough or keep those guys covered or stopped for short gains. And that's why it's Landry or Smith for me.
04-11-2018, 02:41 PM
#3569
Used fanspeak to do a quick mock.
Would be pretty happy if it went down like this
I tried to not do any trades and while I would've rather wait to take WR later in the draft figured based on the board they had available Gallup was too good to pass up in the 3rd round. Ditto with Shepherd in the 4th. He may be overkill with who we have already but he's a legit DLman.
9: R1P9
EDGE HAROLD LANDRY
BOSTON COLLEGE
59: R2P27
CB CARLTON DAVIS
AUBURN
70: R3P6
C FRANK RAGNOW
ARKANSAS
74: R3P10
WR MICHAEL GALLUP
COLORADO STATE
128: R4P28
DT NATHAN SHEPHERD
FORT HAYES
143: R5P6
LB JOSEY JEWELL
IOWA
184: R6P10
C SEAN WELSH
IOWA
223: R7P5
CB BRANDON FACYSON
VIRGINIA TECH
240: R7P22
EDGE PETER KALAMBAYI
STANFORD
Would be pretty happy if it went down like this
I tried to not do any trades and while I would've rather wait to take WR later in the draft figured based on the board they had available Gallup was too good to pass up in the 3rd round. Ditto with Shepherd in the 4th. He may be overkill with who we have already but he's a legit DLman.
9: R1P9
EDGE HAROLD LANDRY
BOSTON COLLEGE
59: R2P27
CB CARLTON DAVIS
AUBURN
70: R3P6
C FRANK RAGNOW
ARKANSAS
74: R3P10
WR MICHAEL GALLUP
COLORADO STATE
128: R4P28
DT NATHAN SHEPHERD
FORT HAYES
143: R5P6
LB JOSEY JEWELL
IOWA
184: R6P10
C SEAN WELSH
IOWA
223: R7P5
CB BRANDON FACYSON
VIRGINIA TECH
240: R7P22
EDGE PETER KALAMBAYI
STANFORD
04-12-2018, 09:21 AM
#3570
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