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03-29-2024, 08:37 AM
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It's so difficult to get the consent of a child…..
Why?
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03-29-2024, 08:38 AM
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It's so difficult to get the consent of a child…..
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Why?
I'll take "Because they're children for fux sake" for $500 Alex.
"Do you think S actually felt like that was a sxual thing he was doig? he's like. Only an actual p3do would thik that she thought he was groping her, too."

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03-29-2024, 08:40 AM
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I'll take "Because they're children for fux sake" for $500 Alex.
Well yeah, children are children. Do you think that's why parents have to be involved?

I just don't buy the claim that there are sneak attacks with hormones and surgeries occurring. But, I fully support investigating the claim.
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03-29-2024, 08:51 AM
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Well yeah, children are children. Do you think that's why parents have to be involved?

I just don't buy the claim that there are sneak attacks with hormones and surgeries occurring. But, I fully support investigating the claim.
Are you being stupid on purpose?
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03-29-2024, 08:52 AM
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I'll take "Because they're children for fux sake" for $500 Alex.
Hey, just because they're still playing with toys at nine years old, doesn't mean they're not responsible enough, to switch their gender, and take life altering medication……
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03-29-2024, 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Are you being stupid on purpose?
Those are the claims in and from the OP.
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03-29-2024, 08:59 AM
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Hey, just because they're still playing with toys at nine years old, doesn't mean they're not responsible enough, to switch their gender, and take life altering medication……
How (and where) are "they" doing it without involving parents?
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03-29-2024, 09:15 AM
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How (and where) are "they" doing it without involving parents?
Let's see, it's not hard to get consent from a child, and if the mom is nuts, it's not hard to get consent from them as well…..
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03-29-2024, 09:18 AM
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Let's see, it's not hard to get consent from a child, and if the mom is nuts, it's not hard to get consent from them as well…..
So untrained and inexperienced professionals are taking advantage of mentally ill mothers?

Why?

Definitely worth investigating even though the motive is rather unclear.
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03-29-2024, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
Are you being stupid on purpose?
He does this constantly.. His covid "arguments" are lousy with it.
"Do you think S actually felt like that was a sxual thing he was doig? he's like. Only an actual p3do would thik that she thought he was groping her, too."

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03-29-2024, 09:36 AM
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He does this constantly.. His covid "arguments" are lousy with it.
Curious that when claims are restated by an opposing discussant those claims are then deemed to be "stupid".
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03-29-2024, 10:55 AM
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Let's see, it's not hard to get consent from a child, and if the mom is nuts, it's not hard to get consent from them as well…..
He is purposefully leaving off the “informed” part of consent. A person cannot have informed consent regarding something they can’t be informed about. He clearly understands this but is just trolling as always.




Then again, he has a LONG track record of being behind the science…whether it be the severity of omicron, whether babies should get mRNA injections, or whether gender affirming care causes more harm than good. Luckily many advanced nations are realizing their past mistakes and adjusting accordingly. Some people are just slower than others, and that’s ok.
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03-29-2024, 10:58 AM
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he is purposefully leaving off the “informed” part of consent. A person cannot have informed consent regarding something they can’t be informed about. He clearly understands this but is just trolling as always.




Then again, he has a long track record of being behind the science…whether it be the severity of omicron, whether babies should get mrna injections, or whether gender affirming care causes more harm than good. Luckily many advanced nations are realizing their past mistakes and adjusting accordingly. Some people are just slower than others, and that’s ok.
Wat??????

He really should just stick to copying and posting his Rona posts.
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03-29-2024, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted By jtaylor2010⏩
He is purposefully leaving off the “informed” part of consent. A person cannot have informed consent regarding something they can’t be informed about. He clearly understands this but is just trolling as always.




Then again, he has a LONG track record of being behind the science…whether it be the severity of omicron, whether babies should get mRNA injections, or whether gender affirming care causes more harm than good. Luckily many advanced nations are realizing their past mistakes and adjusting accordingly. Some people are just slower than others, and that’s ok.
No, I'm not.

The claim is that inexperienced/untrained professionals are providing treatments without consent of either the children or parents involved. Are you now trying to change the claim to be that the children and parents aren't being provided with relevant information or that they are unable to understand the information provided?

I still contend that professionals administering treatments against children's and parents' will should be thoroughly investigated.

None of the nations you've referenced have barred nor banned GAC.

Disagreeing, questioning, and/or not trusting a bro isn't equivalent to trolling, imo.
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03-29-2024, 11:23 AM
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However, the WPATH Files reveal that the organization does not meet the standards of evidence-based medicine, and members frequently discuss improvising treatments as they go along.









Members are fully aware that children and adolescents cannot comprehend the lifelong consequences of “gender-affirming care,” and in some cases, due to poor health literacy, neither can their parents.
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03-29-2024, 11:42 AM
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However, the WPATH Files reveal that the organization does not meet the standards of evidence-based medicine, and members frequently discuss improvising treatments as they go along.

Members are fully aware that children and adolescents cannot comprehend the lifelong consequences of “gender-affirming care,” and in some cases, due to poor health literacy, neither can their parents.

That's a quote from the media article in the OP, yeah?
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03-29-2024, 11:57 AM
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If humanity is still around in a hundred years, what will they think of all of this?
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03-29-2024, 12:07 PM
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If humanity is still around in a hundred years, what will they think of all of this?
I'd guess it'll depend on which political party is in power, just like now
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03-29-2024, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted By Dave22reborn⏩
It's so difficult to get the consent of a child…..
I'm sure Dave has a lot of experience with this.
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03-29-2024, 01:37 PM
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If humanity is still around in a hundred years, what will they think of all of this?
They will wonder why people were so cruel to transgender folks.
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