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06-10-2021, 11:19 AM
#3691
i think i miht just have hit the loto with GLTO boyos. its halted lol i got in
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06-10-2021, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted By Bavaria⏩
Jesus titty fukking christ. Cliffs?
There's a few angles I can see playing out here 2-5 years out in regards to oil price.
The company I work for is the Canadian subsidiary of ExxonMobil. We have not invested in any greenfield projects since the first 2014 crash. Along with Exxon, the top 5 biggest Canadian producers have said no more to mega-projects. Brownfield expansions and de-bottlenecking for now. Even at $60 WTI the Canadian producers are cash flow machines, once balance sheets are repaired this money has to go somewhere, however it isn't going to be North America in this current political environment. The Canadian federal gubment and now Biden administration has made it exceptionally clear they are closed for energy business. Exxon is now betting on the Guyana mega field and Russia, granted sanctions are holding that back. There is absolutely a want to build more projects in Canada, but I believe the flight of investment capital is politically motivated. These businesses aren't going to invest 5bil+ in leftist jursidiction. We can't even get pipelines built for christ sakes. It's really a shame that these golden gooses are purposefully getting cooked, rather than laying the golden eggs.
Case 1: If the pre-COVID economy comes roaring back in the next few months I can see OPEC+ bringing back the rest of their idled production, along with the Iran factor. This would probably level us out somewhere around the $70 mark before the virus hit. However as Destor stated, there has been next to no capital investment for new fields in the past 6 or so years. These projects take almost 10 years to come online, so there would be no supply side levers to pull. US shale oil could come back but those companies got slaughtered, and Biden ain't a helping hand. Companies worldwide wont be able to bring new production online fast enough to keep demand at bay.
Likely what I see happening is green tech becoming an apparent failure in 5-10 years and the energy sector meeting in the middle somewhere. Oil/Gas will bring on emissions technology to make the hippies happy and "green" tech will fill in the gaps. Meet in the middle so to speak.
Case 2: It's completely political now with environmental + first nations groups controlling energy projects, at least in Canada. We cannot get anything built. There is now technology out there that can significantly reduce emissions (Carbon Storage, Sequestering, SA-SAGD) and companies are getting on board with investing in it. However, the rhetoric out there completely ignores this. Even if we could reduce emissions by 90% it will never be enough. Governments and political groups want the fossil fuel industry completely gone. Natural Gas was the clean alternative a short while ago and now that's in their sights as well. Energy companies have been exceptionally terrible with bringing the truth to light and fighting for themselves and Governments along with environmental groups have been exceptionally good at spreading misinformation and pandering to the public. If oil reaches $100bbl+ gubments will further use this to push the climate agenda. Use high energy prices to pander to the public on how green tech will save them.
Example: Venezuela is a good example on how no capital investment correlates to rising prices. Granted this happened because of their political issues. Decades ago they were the Oil & Gas darling. Exxon, Chevron, ConocoPhillips built their energy infrastructure only to have it all expropriated. They swiftly ran these complex's into the ground and squeezed every penny out of them without investing for the future. They now have only 25% of their original output and have to import everything. Last I heard they're trying to convert their last running cokers into "Flexicokers" to make fuel. This will be a stunning failure, they have to run at such high temperatures those things will be coked solid as Venezuela no longer has the expertise to operate these plants. With-out capital investment into replacement fields + plants you only have so long until it all comes crashing down.
The company I work for is the Canadian subsidiary of ExxonMobil. We have not invested in any greenfield projects since the first 2014 crash. Along with Exxon, the top 5 biggest Canadian producers have said no more to mega-projects. Brownfield expansions and de-bottlenecking for now. Even at $60 WTI the Canadian producers are cash flow machines, once balance sheets are repaired this money has to go somewhere, however it isn't going to be North America in this current political environment. The Canadian federal gubment and now Biden administration has made it exceptionally clear they are closed for energy business. Exxon is now betting on the Guyana mega field and Russia, granted sanctions are holding that back. There is absolutely a want to build more projects in Canada, but I believe the flight of investment capital is politically motivated. These businesses aren't going to invest 5bil+ in leftist jursidiction. We can't even get pipelines built for christ sakes. It's really a shame that these golden gooses are purposefully getting cooked, rather than laying the golden eggs.
Case 1: If the pre-COVID economy comes roaring back in the next few months I can see OPEC+ bringing back the rest of their idled production, along with the Iran factor. This would probably level us out somewhere around the $70 mark before the virus hit. However as Destor stated, there has been next to no capital investment for new fields in the past 6 or so years. These projects take almost 10 years to come online, so there would be no supply side levers to pull. US shale oil could come back but those companies got slaughtered, and Biden ain't a helping hand. Companies worldwide wont be able to bring new production online fast enough to keep demand at bay.
Likely what I see happening is green tech becoming an apparent failure in 5-10 years and the energy sector meeting in the middle somewhere. Oil/Gas will bring on emissions technology to make the hippies happy and "green" tech will fill in the gaps. Meet in the middle so to speak.
Case 2: It's completely political now with environmental + first nations groups controlling energy projects, at least in Canada. We cannot get anything built. There is now technology out there that can significantly reduce emissions (Carbon Storage, Sequestering, SA-SAGD) and companies are getting on board with investing in it. However, the rhetoric out there completely ignores this. Even if we could reduce emissions by 90% it will never be enough. Governments and political groups want the fossil fuel industry completely gone. Natural Gas was the clean alternative a short while ago and now that's in their sights as well. Energy companies have been exceptionally terrible with bringing the truth to light and fighting for themselves and Governments along with environmental groups have been exceptionally good at spreading misinformation and pandering to the public. If oil reaches $100bbl+ gubments will further use this to push the climate agenda. Use high energy prices to pander to the public on how green tech will save them.
Example: Venezuela is a good example on how no capital investment correlates to rising prices. Granted this happened because of their political issues. Decades ago they were the Oil & Gas darling. Exxon, Chevron, ConocoPhillips built their energy infrastructure only to have it all expropriated. They swiftly ran these complex's into the ground and squeezed every penny out of them without investing for the future. They now have only 25% of their original output and have to import everything. Last I heard they're trying to convert their last running cokers into "Flexicokers" to make fuel. This will be a stunning failure, they have to run at such high temperatures those things will be coked solid as Venezuela no longer has the expertise to operate these plants. With-out capital investment into replacement fields + plants you only have so long until it all comes crashing down.
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06-10-2021, 11:22 AM
#3693
no investment in O&G in murica means higher prices and Saudi America will get to build more sky scrapers at our expense, all thanks to the energy deniers aka "green energy"
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06-10-2021, 11:24 AM
#3694
Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
I'm definitely not saying to invest in oil companies on the basis that crude could go to $100-200, but there could be big upside if it does happen and you are interested in companies that will generate free cash flow at $60 WTI
You think supply will decline that much? What if Iran oil is good again?
I just look at these slides and see that oil is super complicated to predict.
From investing point of you, to me this feels like chasing oil stocks atm. Time to buy oil stocks was last year.
I just look at these slides and see that oil is super complicated to predict.
From investing point of you, to me this feels like chasing oil stocks atm. Time to buy oil stocks was last year.
Don't think I've ever shilled anything on here, I invest on fundamentals and not on trying to get people to buy into chit they don't understand or riding momentum/hype
Originally Posted By Bavaria⏩
I think you're spot on and could easily see high oil prices being used as a way to further incentivize "green" alternatives. If oil is cheap, that just makes fossil fuels more attractive and dissuades switching to alternatives
There's a few angles I can see playing out here 2-5 years out in regards to oil price.
The company I work for is the Canadian subsidiary of ExxonMobil. We have not invested in any greenfield projects since the first 2014 crash. Along with Exxon, the top 5 biggest Canadian producers have said no more to mega-projects. Brownfield expansions and de-bottlenecking for now. Even at $60 WTI the Canadian producers are cash flow machines, once balance sheets are repaired this money has to go somewhere, however it isn't going to be North America in this current political environment. The Canadian federal gubment and now Biden administration has made it exceptionally clear they are closed for energy business. Exxon is now betting on the Guyana mega field and Russia, granted sanctions are holding that back. There is absolutely a want to build more projects in Canada, but I believe the flight of investment capital is politically motivated. These businesses aren't going to invest 5bil+ in leftist jursidiction. We can't even get pipelines built for christ sakes. It's really a shame that these golden gooses are purposefully getting cooked, rather than laying the golden eggs.
Case 1: If the pre-COVID economy comes roaring back in the next few months I can see OPEC+ bringing back the rest of their idled production, along with the Iran factor. This would probably level us out somewhere around the $70 mark before the virus hit. However as Destor stated, there has been next to no capital investment for new fields in the past 6 or so years. These projects take almost 10 years to come online, so there would be no supply side levers to pull. US shale oil could come back but those companies got slaughtered, and Biden ain't a helping hand. Companies worldwide wont be able to bring new production online fast enough to keep demand at bay.
Likely what I see happening is green tech becoming an apparent failure in 5-10 years and the energy sector meeting in the middle somewhere. Oil/Gas will bring on emissions technology to make the hippies happy and "green" tech will fill in the gaps. Meet in the middle so to speak.
Case 2: It's completely political now with environmental + first nations groups controlling energy projects, at least in Canada. We cannot get anything built. There is now technology out there that can significantly reduce emissions (Carbon Storage, Sequestering, SA-SAGD) and companies are getting on board with investing in it. However, the rhetoric out there completely ignores this. Even if we could reduce emissions by 90% it will never be enough. Governments and political groups want the fossil fuel industry completely gone. Natural Gas was the clean alternative a short while ago and now that's in their sights as well. Energy companies have been exceptionally terrible with bringing the truth to light and fighting for themselves and Governments along with environmental groups have been exceptionally good at spreading misinformation and pandering to the public. If oil reaches $100bbl+ gubments will further use this to push the climate agenda. Use high energy prices to pander to the public on how green tech will save them.
Example: Venezuela is a good example on how no capital investment correlates to rising prices. Granted this happened because of their political issues. Decades ago they were the Oil & Gas darling. Exxon, Chevron, ConocoPhillips built their energy infrastructure only to have it all expropriated. They swiftly ran these complex's into the ground and squeezed every penny out of them without investing for the future. They now have only 25% of their original output and have to import everything. Last I heard they're trying to convert their last running cokers into "Flexicokers" to make fuel. This will be a stunning failure, they have to run at such high temperatures those things will be coked solid as Venezuela no longer has the expertise to operate these plants. With-out capital investment into replacement fields + plants you only have so long until it all comes crashing down.
The company I work for is the Canadian subsidiary of ExxonMobil. We have not invested in any greenfield projects since the first 2014 crash. Along with Exxon, the top 5 biggest Canadian producers have said no more to mega-projects. Brownfield expansions and de-bottlenecking for now. Even at $60 WTI the Canadian producers are cash flow machines, once balance sheets are repaired this money has to go somewhere, however it isn't going to be North America in this current political environment. The Canadian federal gubment and now Biden administration has made it exceptionally clear they are closed for energy business. Exxon is now betting on the Guyana mega field and Russia, granted sanctions are holding that back. There is absolutely a want to build more projects in Canada, but I believe the flight of investment capital is politically motivated. These businesses aren't going to invest 5bil+ in leftist jursidiction. We can't even get pipelines built for christ sakes. It's really a shame that these golden gooses are purposefully getting cooked, rather than laying the golden eggs.
Case 1: If the pre-COVID economy comes roaring back in the next few months I can see OPEC+ bringing back the rest of their idled production, along with the Iran factor. This would probably level us out somewhere around the $70 mark before the virus hit. However as Destor stated, there has been next to no capital investment for new fields in the past 6 or so years. These projects take almost 10 years to come online, so there would be no supply side levers to pull. US shale oil could come back but those companies got slaughtered, and Biden ain't a helping hand. Companies worldwide wont be able to bring new production online fast enough to keep demand at bay.
Likely what I see happening is green tech becoming an apparent failure in 5-10 years and the energy sector meeting in the middle somewhere. Oil/Gas will bring on emissions technology to make the hippies happy and "green" tech will fill in the gaps. Meet in the middle so to speak.
Case 2: It's completely political now with environmental + first nations groups controlling energy projects, at least in Canada. We cannot get anything built. There is now technology out there that can significantly reduce emissions (Carbon Storage, Sequestering, SA-SAGD) and companies are getting on board with investing in it. However, the rhetoric out there completely ignores this. Even if we could reduce emissions by 90% it will never be enough. Governments and political groups want the fossil fuel industry completely gone. Natural Gas was the clean alternative a short while ago and now that's in their sights as well. Energy companies have been exceptionally terrible with bringing the truth to light and fighting for themselves and Governments along with environmental groups have been exceptionally good at spreading misinformation and pandering to the public. If oil reaches $100bbl+ gubments will further use this to push the climate agenda. Use high energy prices to pander to the public on how green tech will save them.
Example: Venezuela is a good example on how no capital investment correlates to rising prices. Granted this happened because of their political issues. Decades ago they were the Oil & Gas darling. Exxon, Chevron, ConocoPhillips built their energy infrastructure only to have it all expropriated. They swiftly ran these complex's into the ground and squeezed every penny out of them without investing for the future. They now have only 25% of their original output and have to import everything. Last I heard they're trying to convert their last running cokers into "Flexicokers" to make fuel. This will be a stunning failure, they have to run at such high temperatures those things will be coked solid as Venezuela no longer has the expertise to operate these plants. With-out capital investment into replacement fields + plants you only have so long until it all comes crashing down.
06-10-2021, 11:24 AM
#3695
put my buy order in for ORPH @ 25
Bought 533 of CYTR @ 3.75
Bought 533 of CYTR @ 3.75
06-10-2021, 11:27 AM
#3696
Originally Posted By JoshSP1985⏩
A month ago today it was trading at $139–entirely possible it dips that low again; but if it does, not sure it recovers. Of course, I said the same thing when it was $45 on February 24th or whatever.
What do you guys think about taking a GME position now with the drop?
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06-10-2021, 11:27 AM
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GLTO halted again. pulling an ORPH i got in 20k at 6. lets get dis bread pussies
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06-10-2021, 11:28 AM
#3698
Originally Posted By SipNPiz⏩
Hit the nail on the head. Reduced production in North American simply means displacing those barrels with less than desirable African, M. Eastern, and Russian.
no investment in O&G in murica means higher prices and Saudi America will get to build more sky scrapers at our expense, all thanks to the energy deniers aka "green energy"
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06-10-2021, 11:31 AM
#3699
Originally Posted By thatsnarf⏩
Dumped 533 bricks of CYTR on somebody's head @ 4.26
put my buy order in for ORPH @ 25
Bought 533 of CYTR @ 3.75
Bought 533 of CYTR @ 3.75
New order 577 CYTR @ 3.50 pending
06-10-2021, 11:35 AM
#3700
inb4 i make a 100 grand and all the halts **** me and i end up selling for 10 dollars profit
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06-10-2021, 11:36 AM
#3701
Originally Posted By TugOfPeace⏩
glto i snext boyo set a limi bu
WTF at orph? How is that even possible?
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06-10-2021, 11:41 AM
#3702
Originally Posted By topperstyle⏩
Good call.
Post proof of trade or negs for life (srs)
You are sus af
You are sus af
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06-10-2021, 11:42 AM
#3703
Originally Posted By ListenHereBruh⏩
buy order GLTO 333 @ 7.25
glto i snext boyo set a limi bu
buy order CYTR 577 @ 3.50 : filled - fuk it halted
buy order ORPH 80 @ 25
06-10-2021, 11:42 AM
#3704
Originally Posted By twovalvekid⏩
dont know how to post pics. someone show me how and ill gladly post
Good call.
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06-10-2021, 11:43 AM
#3705
Who's buiying the GME dip?
Originally Posted By topperstyle⏩
Only people I can think of who have truly posted their personal portfolio gainz are Chino3, myself and another bro that doesn't post here anymore.
Post proof of trade or negs for life (srs)
You are sus af
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06-10-2021, 11:46 AM
#3706
Originally Posted By dopamine72⏩
I just did lol just for fun. Let's see if we get a bounce this week.
Who's buiying the GME dip?
Only people I can think of who have truly posted their personal portfolio gainz are Chino3, myself and another bro that doesn't post here anymore.
Only people I can think of who have truly posted their personal portfolio gainz are Chino3, myself and another bro that doesn't post here anymore.
Also I've posted my gains several times as well which have now turned into losses lmao
06-10-2021, 11:51 AM
#3707
Originally Posted By dopamine72⏩
Bam
Who's buiying the GME dip?
Only people I can think of who have truly posted their personal portfolio gainz are Chino3, myself and another bro that doesn't post here anymore.
Only people I can think of who have truly posted their personal portfolio gainz are Chino3, myself and another bro that doesn't post here anymore.
Spoiler!
06-10-2021, 11:51 AM
#3708
Originally Posted By dopamine72⏩
If you post predictions that often come true then I don't need to see a screenshot of your portfolio.
Who's buiying the GME dip?
Only people I can think of who have truly posted their personal portfolio gainz are Chino3, myself and another bro that doesn't post here anymore.
Only people I can think of who have truly posted their personal portfolio gainz are Chino3, myself and another bro that doesn't post here anymore.
Originally Posted By ListenHereBruh⏩
Upload a pic to your device, upload it to Tiny Pic to host the image and then post it here using image tags.
dont know how to post pics. someone show me how and ill gladly post
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06-10-2021, 11:52 AM
#3709
Originally Posted By Abzu⏩
tiny pic is down.
If you post predictions that often come true then I don't need to see a screenshot of your portfolio.
Upload a pic to your device, upload it to Tiny Pic to host the image and then post it here using image tags.
Upload a pic to your device, upload it to Tiny Pic to host the image and then post it here using image tags.
lol at ppl doubting me. i dont fraud. dont c the point
also up 13k rn on it on this halt.
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06-10-2021, 11:53 AM
#3710
Originally Posted By ListenHereBruh⏩
Then I don't know lol.
tiny pic is down.
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06-10-2021, 11:54 AM
#3711
misc is retarded not allowing you to just attach files. how easy is that **** to do now a days
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06-10-2021, 11:55 AM
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Im ****ing hyped bro. i dont know how im gunna be a able to sell it cus it keeps halting anyone with advice on that?
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06-10-2021, 11:58 AM
#3713
Originally Posted By ListenHereBruh⏩
just market order this way when it trades again you're out
Im ****ing hyped bro. i dont know how im gunna be a able to sell it cus it keeps halting anyone with advice on that?
you're already up so just make sure you get something if it plummets
06-10-2021, 11:58 AM
#3714
Originally Posted By dopamine72⏩
If it drops below my average I will buy more–I bought 10 between yesterday evening and this morning ($308 and $280), raising my average by $40 lmao. And unless realized gains, what's the point of posting?
Who's buiying the GME dip?
Only people I can think of who have truly posted their personal portfolio gainz are Chino3, myself and another bro that doesn't post here anymore.
Only people I can think of who have truly posted their personal portfolio gainz are Chino3, myself and another bro that doesn't post here anymore.
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06-10-2021, 12:01 PM
#3715
Originally Posted By Destor⏩
Big time Cenovus gains!! Been awhile since I've seen a 80%+ gain in my portfolio haha.
Bam
Spoiler!
Spoiler!
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06-10-2021, 12:04 PM
#3716
Originally Posted By thatsnarf⏩
which one tho
just market order this way when it trades again you're out
you're already up so just make sure you get something if it plummets
you're already up so just make sure you get something if it plummets
sell limit order
stop order or limit stop order?
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06-10-2021, 12:04 PM
#3717
All meme stocks dropping.
Anyone buying the OCGN dip? I think it will go even lower.
Anyone buying the OCGN dip? I think it will go even lower.
I probably banged your mom.
Eat the whole animal like a real man.
06-10-2021, 12:05 PM
#3718
My best guess is the majority of the reasoning behind gme selling off is gme is slowly selling their 5 million shares.
Everyone in my small circle is buying. Except me.
Everyone in my small circle is buying. Except me.
06-10-2021, 12:06 PM
#3719
Originally Posted By Bavaria⏩
Left you some green squares with a comment
Big time Cenovus gains!! Been awhile since I've seen a 80%+ gain in my portfolio haha.
BIRD an insider play? Think we have them on site doing something right now haha
You can roll up to one of the 2 rigs we have going in your Lambo.
BIRD an insider play? Think we have them on site doing something right now haha
You can roll up to one of the 2 rigs we have going in your Lambo.
06-10-2021, 12:07 PM
#3720
Originally Posted By ListenHereBruh⏩
just sell @ market order so when it unhalts, you just get rid of it.
which one tho
sell limit order
stop order or limit stop order?
sell limit order
stop order or limit stop order?
you're up so big, just take the profits at whatever it strikes.
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