Thread: ***Canadian Crew*** Part 8
02-25-2016, 08:37 PM
#3751
Originally Posted By MatTheCur⏩
You went full badger with that beard, bruh. Grey looks good no homer
you effs have been posting without letting me know there was a new thread?
Arses
Arses
*** Misc Cigar Crew ***
It is the power of the mind to be unconquerable
Quote
02-26-2016, 10:00 AM
#3752
It's not free. Those of us who went to school BEFORE this passed and are going to be paying off our 50k school debt for the rest of our lives will ALSO be paying for everyone else's tuitions with our taxes now. Yay.
Squats and Maple syrup son. Squats and Maple syrup.
*CANADIAN CREW*
Training Log- http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=163818831
***Sig shortened for cranky, old, mouth breathers***
02-26-2016, 10:10 AM
#3753
Originally Posted By Fawnl⏩
Yes, I agree. This is crap.
It's not free. Those of us who went to school BEFORE this passed and are going to be paying off our 50k school debt for the rest of our lives will ALSO be paying for everyone else's tuitions with our taxes now. Yay.
I didn't vote Liberal.
- Hunttarded
- ♔
- Join Date: Feb 2013
- Posts: 5,149
- Rep Power: 49,867
-
02-26-2016, 11:24 AM
#3754
Ah nothing in life is free… But I see it like this:
I'd rather pay a little more in my taxes to give people the opportunity to go to school and better themselves (paying it forward, as it were), rather than have them claiming Social Security cheques and sit at home because they don't have to work or get higher education. The more educated workers we have, the more income is generated for companies, which means there's more taxes being collected, which means more people going to school, which means more educated workers, etc. etc.
Just me, though.
I'd rather pay a little more in my taxes to give people the opportunity to go to school and better themselves (paying it forward, as it were), rather than have them claiming Social Security cheques and sit at home because they don't have to work or get higher education. The more educated workers we have, the more income is generated for companies, which means there's more taxes being collected, which means more people going to school, which means more educated workers, etc. etc.
Just me, though.
Proud member of Team Ogre
—–> Come join me in my log on bb.com!: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=150246533
Currently running: Wade's program
Currently reading: Nothing. Suggest something for me to digest with my eyes
Currently playing: Clicker Heroes and Diablo 3
02-26-2016, 11:54 AM
#3755
http://www.metronews.ca/news/canada/...n-his-own.html
Wow, this country is way to forgiving and Liberal. 8 years later…
Wow, this country is way to forgiving and Liberal. 8 years later…
02-26-2016, 11:59 AM
#3756
Originally Posted By MatTheCur⏩
That's a good way of looking at it I hadn't considered. Hopefully it plays out that way.
…rather than have them claiming Social Security cheques and sit at home because they don't
have
to work or get higher education…
Originally Posted By Muneyy⏩
http://www.metronews.ca/news/canada/...n-his-own.html
Wow, this country is way to forgiving and Liberal. 8 years later…
Wow, this country is way to forgiving and Liberal. 8 years later…
- Hunttarded
- ♔
- Join Date: Feb 2013
- Posts: 5,149
- Rep Power: 49,867
-
02-27-2016, 04:18 AM
#3757
Originally Posted By Muneyy⏩
that guy is a psycho
http://www.metronews.ca/news/canada/...n-his-own.html
Wow, this country is way to forgiving and Liberal. 8 years later…
Wow, this country is way to forgiving and Liberal. 8 years later…
02-28-2016, 05:41 AM
#3758
Anyone ever sell their phone upgrade? I'm eligible for one through Rogers. Want to keep my S4 though since it does everything just fine. Thinking about getting an iPhone 6s on a 2 year contract or something then selling it on Craigslist for $600 or so. In before I regret robbed
The new VR phones are cool but it's still so new. Guaranteed problems probably
The new VR phones are cool but it's still so new. Guaranteed problems probably
***Canadian Crew***
Honorary Black Man
#MCGFTFT
02-28-2016, 11:19 AM
#3759
Originally Posted By Muneyy⏩
http://www.metronews.ca/news/canada/...n-his-own.html
Wow, this country is way to forgiving and Liberal. 8 years later…
Wow, this country is way to forgiving and Liberal. 8 years later…
Originally Posted By Hunttarded⏩
Wow well I was unaware that a political party could decide who represented a danger to society and who doesn't! Thanks for the info champ.
That's a good way of looking at it I hadn't considered. Hopefully it plays out that way.
We let doctors and legal experts make decisions like this so avoid that our ignorant feelings come contaminate situations like these ones.
So you want to blame the Liberals… for not punishing harshly enough someone that was in a complete psychotic state during the incident which would have 0 impacts on preventing future similar incidents from occurring .
But…
You don't want to blame the Conservatives who have constantly reduce health care spending and specifically mental health care spending, something that can obviously prevent something like this from happening in the future.
Great logic!
Originally Posted By yg7s7⏩
Its called mental illness and neither one of us are immune to it unfortunately. With proper prevention, diagnosis and treatment, we can highly reduce such terrible incident from occurring.
that guy is a psycho
You think that calling mental ill people "psychos" a way to encourage people with such illness from seeking treatment?
And no his illness is not related to being a "psychopath".
how can she neg… HOW CAN SHE NEG!!! HOW?!
- getbig_ttt
- Team Rewarding
-
- getbig_ttt
- Team Rewarding
- Join Date: Aug 2008
- Location: Canada
- Age: 36
- Posts: 9,724
- Rep Power: 33,950
-
02-28-2016, 12:31 PM
#3760
getbig dropping bombs ITT. You know there's no room on the misc for logic and reason. Off with his head.
*** Misc Cigar Crew ***
It is the power of the mind to be unconquerable
02-28-2016, 12:32 PM
#3761
Gonna need cliffs on all this srs shiit itt lately.
- Getter_done
- Registered User
-
- Getter_done
- Registered User
- Join Date: Dec 2008
- Posts: 100,673
- Rep Power: 1,194,302
-
02-28-2016, 12:50 PM
#3762
Originally Posted By getbig_ttt⏩
Don't put words in my mouth. Threats aren't subjective and I'm not sure why you're suggesting they are, but penalization is and that's politically dependent. The same thing would have happened under Conservative but they're not as forgiving. You're talking about some dude getting his chopped off on a charter bus, it totally blows my mind how you think there's any merit to defending something like this.
Wow well I was unaware that a political party could decide who represented a danger to society and who doesn't! Thanks for the info champ.
We let doctors and legal experts make decisions like this so avoid that our ignorant feelings come contaminate situations like these ones.
So you want to blame the Liberals… for not punishing harshly enough someone that was in a complete psychotic state during the incident which would have 0 impacts on preventing future similar incidents from occurring .
But…
You don't want to blame the Conservatives who have constantly reduce health care spending and specifically mental health care spending, something that can obviously prevent something like this from happening in the future.
Great logic!
We let doctors and legal experts make decisions like this so avoid that our ignorant feelings come contaminate situations like these ones.
So you want to blame the Liberals… for not punishing harshly enough someone that was in a complete psychotic state during the incident which would have 0 impacts on preventing future similar incidents from occurring .
But…
You don't want to blame the Conservatives who have constantly reduce health care spending and specifically mental health care spending, something that can obviously prevent something like this from happening in the future.
Great logic!
I don't care for whatever rationale you have because there wouldn't be any substance to it anyways. And don't mention crappy allocation of funds because Wynne mentioned subjecting like $80M to in-vitro fertilization or whatever years ago, so cut the facade that your party gives a **** about mental health.
- Hunttarded
- ♔
- Join Date: Feb 2013
- Posts: 5,149
- Rep Power: 49,867
-
02-28-2016, 01:12 PM
#3763
Originally Posted By Hunttarded⏩
So what should we do?
Don't put words in my mouth. Threats aren't subjective and I'm not sure why you're suggesting they are, but penalization is and that's politically dependent. The same thing would have happened under Conservative but they're not as forgiving. You're talking about some dude getting his chopped off on a charter bus, it totally blows my mind how you think there's any merit to defending something like this.
I don't care for whatever rationale you have because there wouldn't be any substance to it anyways. And don't mention crappy allocation of funds because Wynne mentioned subjecting like $80M to in-vitro fertilization or whatever years ago, so cut the facade that your party gives a **** about mental health.
I don't care for whatever rationale you have because there wouldn't be any substance to it anyways. And don't mention crappy allocation of funds because Wynne mentioned subjecting like $80M to in-vitro fertilization or whatever years ago, so cut the facade that your party gives a **** about mental health.
Was he in anyway responsible for what he did? No.
Should we punish him for what he did? No.
Is he currently doing good enough to be out in the community again? Yes.
Is he more likely to re offend and commit another murder vs the tens of thousands of people currently suffering from mental illness without proper medication? No.
So what? Lets punish him just because ? There is absolutely no justification to keep him in a cage at this point.
The events that took the life of Tim McLean are beyond tragic and horrible. However further going after Vince Li is useless. No one will gain anything from it.
how can she neg… HOW CAN SHE NEG!!! HOW?!
- getbig_ttt
- Team Rewarding
-
- getbig_ttt
- Team Rewarding
- Join Date: Aug 2008
- Location: Canada
- Age: 36
- Posts: 9,724
- Rep Power: 33,950
-
02-28-2016, 01:22 PM
#3764
Originally Posted By getbig_ttt⏩
Schizophrenia has a high recurrence statistic. Unless he's reassessed often I would consider this a compromise of public safety. If I had it my way this dude wouldn't have had any of this **** happen to him in the first place but it's a matter of the commons vs. the individual and I think that's where this decision faulted with its leniency.
So what should we do?
Was he in anyway responsible for what he did? No.
Should we punish him for what he did? No.
Is he currently doing good enough to be out in the community again? Yes.
Is he more likely to re offend and commit another murder vs the tens of thousands of people currently suffering from mental illness without proper medication? No.
So what? Lets punish him just because ? There is absolutely no justification to keep him in a cage at this point.
The events that took the life of Tim McLean are beyond tragic and horrible. However further going after Vince Li is useless. No one will gain anything from it.
Was he in anyway responsible for what he did? No.
Should we punish him for what he did? No.
Is he currently doing good enough to be out in the community again? Yes.
Is he more likely to re offend and commit another murder vs the tens of thousands of people currently suffering from mental illness without proper medication? No.
So what? Lets punish him just because ? There is absolutely no justification to keep him in a cage at this point.
The events that took the life of Tim McLean are beyond tragic and horrible. However further going after Vince Li is useless. No one will gain anything from it.
- Hunttarded
- ♔
- Join Date: Feb 2013
- Posts: 5,149
- Rep Power: 49,867
-
02-28-2016, 01:26 PM
#3765
Originally Posted By Hunttarded⏩
Again, can you demonstrate that his currently illness (which is being closely looked at) is more likely to make re offend than one of the tens of thousands of Canadians with Schizophrenia that aren't taking any medication?
Schizophrenia has a high recurrence statistic. Unless he's reassessed often I would consider this a compromise of public safety. If I had it my way this dude wouldn't have had any of this **** happen to him in the first place but it's a matter of the commons vs. the individual and I think that's where this decision faulted with its leniency.
how can she neg… HOW CAN SHE NEG!!! HOW?!
- getbig_ttt
- Team Rewarding
-
- getbig_ttt
- Team Rewarding
- Join Date: Aug 2008
- Location: Canada
- Age: 36
- Posts: 9,724
- Rep Power: 33,950
-
02-28-2016, 01:33 PM
#3766
Originally Posted By getbig_ttt⏩
No, I can't. And aside from that article, neither can you. Can you demonstrate that other schizophrenics have it as developed as his was during this incident? Because I'm sure all of Canada would consider this 8 year old incident very memorable and so it must not happen often, even though we have "tens of thousands of Canadians with Schizophrenia that aren't taking any medication".
Again, can you demonstrate that his currently illness (which is being closely looked at) is more likely to make re offend than one of the tens of thousands of Canadians with Schizophrenia that aren't taking any medication?
- Hunttarded
- ♔
- Join Date: Feb 2013
- Posts: 5,149
- Rep Power: 49,867
-
02-28-2016, 01:50 PM
#3767
Originally Posted By Hunttarded⏩
Fox news logic… ditch science, medicine and facts for fear.
No, I can't. And aside from that article, neither can you. Can you demonstrate that other schizophrenics have it as developed as his was during this incident? Because I'm sure all of Canada would consider this 8 year old incident very memorable and so it must not happen often, even though we have "tens of thousands of Canadians with Schizophrenia that aren't taking any medication".
Keep it up champ.
how can she neg… HOW CAN SHE NEG!!! HOW?!
- getbig_ttt
- Team Rewarding
-
- getbig_ttt
- Team Rewarding
- Join Date: Aug 2008
- Location: Canada
- Age: 36
- Posts: 9,724
- Rep Power: 33,950
-
02-28-2016, 01:56 PM
#3768
In. We takin ova
"I hated every minute of training, but I said, 'Don't quit. Suffer now and live the rest of your life as a champion."
Arizona Cardinals | Toronto Blue Jays | Winnipeg Jets
- codsterlaing95
- Registered User
-
- codsterlaing95
- Registered User
- Join Date: Dec 2014
- Location: United States
- Posts: 1,576
- Rep Power: 235
-
02-28-2016, 01:58 PM
#3769
Originally Posted By getbig_ttt⏩
Sure, greater than 50% recurrence of schizophrenic episodes and then you go and claim dismissal of anything factual. Drop a 'champ' in there too, that's intimidating.
Fox news logic… ditch science, medicine and facts for fear.
Keep it up champ.
Keep it up champ.
- Hunttarded
- ♔
- Join Date: Feb 2013
- Posts: 5,149
- Rep Power: 49,867
-
02-28-2016, 08:17 PM
#3770
Whoops. Looks like I wound up in R&P again
***Canadian Crew***
Honorary Black Man
#MCGFTFT
02-29-2016, 05:41 AM
#3771
Originally Posted By getbig_ttt⏩
So what should we do?
Was he in anyway responsible for what he did? No.
Should we punish him for what he did? No.
Is he currently doing good enough to be out in the community again? Yes.
Is he more likely to re offend and commit another murder vs the tens of thousands of people currently suffering from mental illness without proper medication? No.
So what? Lets punish him just because ? There is absolutely no justification to keep him in a cage at this point.
The events that took the life of Tim McLean are beyond tragic and horrible. However further going after Vince Li is useless. No one will gain anything from it.
Was he in anyway responsible for what he did? No.
Should we punish him for what he did? No.
Is he currently doing good enough to be out in the community again? Yes.
Is he more likely to re offend and commit another murder vs the tens of thousands of people currently suffering from mental illness without proper medication? No.
So what? Lets punish him just because ? There is absolutely no justification to keep him in a cage at this point.
The events that took the life of Tim McLean are beyond tragic and horrible. However further going after Vince Li is useless. No one will gain anything from it.
Originally Posted By Hunttarded⏩
Schizophrenics are known to go through "episodes". They can be medicated to the tits, but they will STILL decide that they don't need their medication anymore. My aunt is a schizophrenic and they NEED close monitoring to stay on track. I think that being able to do what Li did takes a very certain kind of person capable of doing horribly evil things. Not ALL schizophrenics are dangerous. And THAT is why he should be put behind bars. This is not about people with mental illness, this about HIM and what he has already proven that he is capable of and putting him out into the public because he says "I'll be good". He said that before the attack too, no one could believe that quiet, unobtrusive Li could do such a thing. He is dangerous, he has proven he is dangerous, he should be locked up like the other dangerous criminals in the world, mental illness or not. People who are mentally ill would tell you the same thing.
Sure, greater than 50% recurrence of schizophrenic episodes and then you go and claim dismissal of anything factual. Drop a 'champ' in there too, that's intimidating.
Squats and Maple syrup son. Squats and Maple syrup.
*CANADIAN CREW*
Training Log- http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=163818831
***Sig shortened for cranky, old, mouth breathers***
02-29-2016, 07:12 AM
#3772
Originally Posted By Fawnl⏩
As someone who has been on anti-psychotics, I can tell you that being on these meds makes you feel like you're dead inside, can't feel joy, can't feel any emotions at all. Given the choice of being on these meds for the rest of my life or death……..I would be leaning towards death……so no wonder compliance is an issue. Try taking some anti-psychotics for a month on two and see if you want to stay on them.
Schizophrenics are known to go through "episodes". They can be medicated to the tits, but they will STILL decide that they don't need their medication anymore. My aunt is a schizophrenic and they NEED close monitoring to stay on track.
Aesthetic Glutes Crew
Eleshirt Crew
02-29-2016, 08:40 AM
#3773
Originally Posted By MatTheCur⏩
Das it mane.
Ah nothing in life is free… But I see it like this:
I'd rather pay a little more in my taxes to give people the opportunity to go to school and better themselves (paying it forward, as it were), rather than have them claiming Social Security cheques and sit at home because they don't have to work or get higher education. The more educated workers we have, the more income is generated for companies, which means there's more taxes being collected, which means more people going to school, which means more educated workers, etc. etc.
Just me, though.
I'd rather pay a little more in my taxes to give people the opportunity to go to school and better themselves (paying it forward, as it were), rather than have them claiming Social Security cheques and sit at home because they don't have to work or get higher education. The more educated workers we have, the more income is generated for companies, which means there's more taxes being collected, which means more people going to school, which means more educated workers, etc. etc.
Just me, though.
- LaughingStorm
- Banned
-
- LaughingStorm
- Banned
- Join Date: Feb 2014
- Location: Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, United States
- Age: 43
- Posts: 17,024
- Rep Power: 0
-
02-29-2016, 10:19 AM
#3774
Originally Posted By Roasted⏩
So what do you suggest then? I've never been on anti psychotics because I don't need them. Maybe you didn't either and that's why they effected you that way? Or maybe not… Maybe that IS the reason they get off the meds so often. the problem is, THEY GET OFF THE MEDS. But if the choice is hearing god telling you to saw an innocent persons head off and DOING it, or being on drugs and not having feelings? I feel like your choice is made for you. Or, fine, if you don't want to be on drugs, you have to stay safely confined, away from innocent people.
As someone who has been on anti-psychotics, I can tell you that being on these meds makes you feel like you're dead inside, can't feel joy, can't feel any emotions at all. Given the choice of being on these meds for the rest of my life or death……..I would be leaning towards death……so no wonder compliance is an issue. Try taking some anti-psychotics for a month on two and see if you want to stay on them.
It amazes me that people can even think for one second that he can't/shouldn't be held responsible for his actions. Mentally ill or not, HE DID IT. Who should be held responsible? God? noone? Just tell him not to do it again and out he goes into the public again? Promising to take the anti psychotics that ppl hate? This is not going to end well.
Squats and Maple syrup son. Squats and Maple syrup.
*CANADIAN CREW*
Training Log- http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=163818831
***Sig shortened for cranky, old, mouth breathers***
02-29-2016, 10:23 AM
#3775
Let's just cut the political crap, whether we agree or not. It never works out well and posts in the CC are few and far between as it is.
- Hunttarded
- ♔
- Join Date: Feb 2013
- Posts: 5,149
- Rep Power: 49,867
-
02-29-2016, 12:33 PM
#3776
Originally Posted By Fawnl⏩
I get what you're saying and partially agree that even in a "psychotic" state there is obviously something morally wrong with him if he does something so horrible wrong, even in a psychotic state. I was fully psychotic before and even at my craziest I was a complete pacifist and only hurt myself but for the most part, the drugs work exactly the same on everyone. I don't think these drugs even help with Schizophrenia directly, they just have this numbing effect on people so even when they have hallucinations/delusions they are to numbed out to care and I'm guessing being highly emotional increases delusions and hallucinations so maybe it indirectly lessens those too. The name "anti-psychotic" is even BS. They lower Dopamine in the brain majorly which is a major component of processing reward, joy and emotions in the brain. That's all they do. Has little to do with psychosis. Also, there is no proven link between schizophrenia and high dopamine activity in the brain, that's a myth spread by pharmaceutical companies so they can push their drugs. Unfortunately, there is no good treatment for schizophrenia right now. Our understanding of the brain is still in stone age. Hopefully science gets there soon.
So what do you suggest then? I've never been on anti psychotics because I don't need them. Maybe you didn't either and that's why they effected you that way? Or maybe not… Maybe that IS the reason they get off the meds so often. the problem is, THEY GET OFF THE MEDS. But if the choice is hearing god telling you to saw an innocent persons head off and DOING it, or being on drugs and not having feelings? I feel like your choice is made for you. Or, fine, if you don't want to be on drugs, you have to stay safely confined, away from innocent people.
For the record, I'm not Schizophrenic. Just had a bad drug experience that pushed me into extreme Mania once.
Aesthetic Glutes Crew
Eleshirt Crew
02-29-2016, 12:36 PM
#3777
I didn't know this was politics. But that's cool.
I'm actually a bit scared. I think I might be in the middle if a snownado. The power is out and the winds are so extreme that I'm staying in the basement in case my windows explode. Not sure how I'm going to get my kids off the bus at this point.
I'm actually a bit scared. I think I might be in the middle if a snownado. The power is out and the winds are so extreme that I'm staying in the basement in case my windows explode. Not sure how I'm going to get my kids off the bus at this point.
Squats and Maple syrup son. Squats and Maple syrup.
*CANADIAN CREW*
Training Log- http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=163818831
***Sig shortened for cranky, old, mouth breathers***
02-29-2016, 12:57 PM
#3778
They should not sell craft brews at hockey games.
It only leads to pain and regret.
It only leads to pain and regret.
- LaughingStorm
- Banned
-
- LaughingStorm
- Banned
- Join Date: Feb 2014
- Location: Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, United States
- Age: 43
- Posts: 17,024
- Rep Power: 0
-
02-29-2016, 01:06 PM
#3779
Originally Posted By LaughingStorm⏩
How much would those run you? It's like 8 bucks for domestic over here at the ACC.
They should not sell craft brews at hockey games.
It only leads to pain and regret.
It only leads to pain and regret.
- Hunttarded
- ♔
- Join Date: Feb 2013
- Posts: 5,149
- Rep Power: 49,867
-
02-29-2016, 01:18 PM
#3780
Originally Posted By Hunttarded⏩
Wasn't bad. Was about $7 for a 20 ounce Victory DirtWolf.
How much would those run you? It's like 8 bucks for domestic over here at the ACC.
This was an AHL game, tho. Was out to see the Hershey Bears brutally curb stomp them Utica Comets (who PK Subban's one brother plays for).
- LaughingStorm
- Banned
-
- LaughingStorm
- Banned
- Join Date: Feb 2014
- Location: Harrisburg, Pennsylvania, United States
- Age: 43
- Posts: 17,024
- Rep Power: 0
-
Bookmarks
- Digg
- del.icio.us
- StumbleUpon
Posting Permissions
- You may not post new threads
- You may not post replies
- You may not post attachments
- You may not edit your posts