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09-06-2023, 11:42 AM
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Looking for a light for an AR pistol.

Not trying to break the bank. I'm not looking for remote switches, cables and added clutter as some of the lights bring with them. Simple, easy, well made is all I am looking for.

I'm leaning towards this INFORCE WML 400 Lumens Gen 2 Weaponlight White Light, Black Body. $118.

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09-06-2023, 11:43 AM
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Brahs, where is the cheapest/best place to get ammo?

Looking to get 1k rounds for the range for my g19 gen4

and then prolly 5 boxes of self defense ammo. 9mm 147 grain federal
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09-06-2023, 12:03 PM
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Chinesium pricing: Streamlight ProTac railmount. They are the one to get. I still won't trust inforce after they released a bunch of early lights with parasitic drain. I hear the newer ones are better. But, streamlight has been making pretty solid well priced flashlights for a long time and their rail mount lights for quite awhile as well
Initially I was leaning towards Streamlight, I do already have 4-5 of their lights.

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09-06-2023, 12:48 PM
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It's really variable depending on who's running the best sale. Palmetto state has some good sales, Midway sometimes, target sports USA, and on and on. Ammoseek is an aggregator that usually has some of the best deals. Not always the best, but usually not far off.
thanks boyos.

from my research here, FEDERAL HST 9MM 147 GR or 124 GR is what I should be getting for my conceal ammo

need some range ammo tho as well, sounds like people just say to buy the cheapest. I have a glock 19. I suppose ill go on ammoseek and just buy the cheapest chit possible with the best review ratio
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09-06-2023, 12:54 PM
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I've been an AAC hoor lately. Palmetto has been pushing those like crazy, 9mm as low as .25 cpr, 5.56 .40cpr. They had 45acp at .40cpr a while back, but they got up to like .52 cpr. Their shipping is very reasonable as well.
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09-06-2023, 12:56 PM
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thanks boyos.

from my research here, FEDERAL HST 9MM 147 GR or 124 GR is what I should be getting for my conceal ammo

need some range ammo tho as well, sounds like people just say to buy the cheapest. I have a glock 19. I suppose ill go on ammoseek and just buy the cheapest chit possible with the best review ratio
For range handgun defensive practice I'd use the cheapest available that is new production from a major manufacturer. No reloads/remanufacturered, and no "who is that?" fly by night newbie crap that's too cheap to believe. Steel case fine for Glock BTW

Oh, and no winchester their ammo is sht
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09-06-2023, 01:28 PM
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For range handgun defensive practice I'd use the cheapest available that is new production from a major manufacturer. No reloads/remanufacturered, and no "who is that?" fly by night newbie crap that's too cheap to believe. Steel case fine for Glock BTW

Oh, and no winchester their ammo is sht
I see some pretty cheap stuff from 'American Sniper' and 'Patriot Defense'. Not sure if either are worth it.

i checked the range near me and they said any ammo except ones with steel core
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09-06-2023, 01:45 PM
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thanks boyos.

from my research here, FEDERAL HST 9MM 147 GR or 124 GR is what I should be getting for my conceal ammo

need some range ammo tho as well, sounds like people just say to buy the cheapest. I have a glock 19. I suppose ill go on ammoseek and just buy the cheapest chit possible with the best review ratio
I remember getting 50rd boxes of the Fed HST 124g for $29 per. Grabbed about 1k at the time.
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09-06-2023, 03:30 PM
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I remember getting 50rd boxes of the Fed HST 124g for $29 per. Grabbed about 1k at the time.
There was a time that was $18.39 (50 round box of 9mm HST) from Target Sports, free shipping. Just checked my order history to confirm

I also paid $13.79/50 for .40 180 GR Federal HST

But this was spring of 2018 so…it's been 5 years
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09-06-2023, 03:35 PM
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Here is an order of 500 of them for $197 to the door

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09-06-2023, 03:38 PM
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Looking for a light for an AR pistol.

Not trying to break the bank. I'm not looking for remote switches, cables and added clutter as some of the lights bring with them. Simple, easy, well made is all I am looking for.

I'm leaning towards this INFORCE WML 400 Lumens Gen 2 Weaponlight White Light, Black Body. $118.

Any other suggestions?
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09-06-2023, 03:42 PM
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lol he says not trying to break the bank, you list the one WML you could probably break a literal bank with if you threw it hard enough

Light would be fine
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09-06-2023, 03:45 PM
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I see some pretty cheap stuff from 'American Sniper' and 'Patriot Defense'. Not sure if either are worth it.

i checked the range near me and they said any ammo except ones with steel core
CCI, Speer, Federal, PMC, PPU, S&B, Magtech, ADI and possibly AAC is just about the only brands I'd recommend to anyone.

Winchester, Browning and Remington are all made by the same conglomerate.
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09-06-2023, 03:48 PM
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CCI, Speer, Federal, PMC, PPU, S&B, Magtech, ADI and possibly AAC is just about the only brands I'd recommend to anyone.
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Magtech may also show up as CBC
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(range/training ammo, cheapest from any of these will be fine)

(some of these have super awesome higher end ammo too, depending)

I mostly try to get the ATK brands…Federal, CCI, Speer if they have something applicable

IMI for middle grade semi bulk. Razor Core SMK rifle ammo or pretty solid M193 etc

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09-06-2023, 03:49 PM
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lol he says not trying to break the bank, you list the one WML you could probably break a literal bank with if you threw it hard enough

Light would be fine
I was hoping he might reconsider after seeing how worth it it is.
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09-06-2023, 03:50 PM
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Add:
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Magtech may also show up as CBC
Fiocchi

(range/training ammo, cheapest from any of these will be fine)

(some of these have super awesome higher end ammo too, depending)
Yup those too
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09-06-2023, 03:53 PM
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I can't bring myself to buy any made at Lake City especially with Winchester on the box…which sucks because it's still some of the hottest 5.56 out there like it has been forever.
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09-06-2023, 04:00 PM
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I can't bring myself to buy any made at Lake City especially with Winchester on the box…which sucks because it's still some of the hottest 5.56 out there like it has been forever.
Fortunately for 5.56x45, 9x19, and 7.62x51 there are a ton of manufacturers to choose from since the democrats haven't yet wholesale banned ammo imports and they are NATO rounds.

But the regulars in here, if any remain, can attest that I've been beating the drum of "winchester sucks dont' buy their trash" for many years. Been that way for awhile. Top to bottom, rifle pistol rimfire, all of it, it's just their company standards altogether are sht their customer service is sht they ignore you when you send them lot numbers and pics and mic measurements of out of spec ammo they DGAF so fuk them
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09-06-2023, 04:15 PM
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I can't bring myself to buy any made at Lake City especially with Winchester on the box…which sucks because it's still some of the hottest 5.56 out there like it has been forever.
I bought a case of Federal Lake City like 3 years ago. When did that stop?
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09-06-2023, 04:19 PM
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Fortunately for 5.56x45, 9x19, and 7.62x51 there are a ton of manufacturers to choose from since the democrats haven't yet wholesale banned ammo imports and they are NATO rounds.

But the regulars in here, if any remain, can attest that I've been beating the drum of "winchester sucks dont' buy their trash" for many years. Been that way for awhile. Top to bottom, rifle pistol rimfire , all of it, it's just their company standards altogether are sht their customer service is sht they ignore you when you send them lot numbers and pics and mic measurements of out of spec ammo they DGAF so fuk them
Can confirm on the rimfire. I don't buy much factory ammo outside of rimfire, but the Winchester 22 ammo I've shot was about the worst I've seen.

Brozef got me thinking though. Lake City always used to have a solid reputation for brass quality. Around 8 or 10 years ago I stumbled upon a pile of it at the shooting range and so I picked it up for use as once fired brass for reloading. Since then, I've pretty much exclusively shot Lake City brass in 5.56, picking it up when I've come across it. I knew lake city switched over to winchester in 2020, but this is the first time it's occurred to me that brass quality may have changed. I guess I need to look into that. For what it's worth, I shot some great groups with brass I picked up in July. No idea when it was manufactured though.
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09-06-2023, 04:24 PM
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I bought a case of Federal Lake City like 3 years ago. When did that stop?
Olin group took over the contract a while back. You'll have to do some googling.
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09-06-2023, 04:52 PM
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Lake City M193/M855 has been far and wide the most reliable and consistent 5.56 that I’ve gone through in over a decade. Especially M855, which has been finicky with so many brands. M193 is generally consistent.

It’s the only brand that reliably shoots in every one of my rifles no matter what.
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Lake City M193/M855 has been far and wide the most reliable and consistent 5.56 that I’ve gone through in over a decade. Especially M855, which has been finicky with so many brands. M193 is generally consistent.

It’s the only brand that reliably shoots in every one of my rifles no matter what.
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Here is an order of 500 of them for $197 to the door

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Idk how the hell you got that big of a discount but mirin.

Just got 500 rnds of Magtech 9B Range/Training 9mm Luger 124 gr 1109 fps Full Metal Jacket (FMJ) (through ammoseek / Southern Defense) and 5 boxes that same 9mm - 124 Grain HST JHP - Federal Premium Law Enforcement - 50 Rounds (Lucky Gunner)

dont even wanna say how much i paid cause it was prolly too much
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09-06-2023, 06:05 PM
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Idk how the hell you got that big of a discount but mirin.

Just got 500 rnds of Magtech 9B Range/Training 9mm Luger 124 gr 1109 fps Full Metal Jacket (FMJ) (through ammoseek / Southern Defense) and 5 boxes that same 9mm - 124 Grain HST JHP - Federal Premium Law Enforcement - 50 Rounds (Lucky Gunner)

dont even wanna say how much i paid cause it was prolly too much
At the time, ammo prices were sub-basement.

To reference the long timers here, they'll remember, I was Relentless about BUY AMMO at that time. Fuk the scopes and the optics and the 8th guns and 70th magazine, buy ammo

Those were the days. It was just a good sale
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what brands are not reliable in your rifles?
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There was a time that was $18.39 (50 round box of 9mm HST) from Target Sports, free shipping. Just checked my order history to confirm

I also paid $13.79/50 for .40 180 GR Federal HST

But this was spring of 2018 so…it's been 5 years
That’s a hell of a fn deal. Bring back 2018
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I was going to say the same and then I realized the price.

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lol he says not trying to break the bank, you list the one WML you could probably break a literal bank with if you threw it hard enough

Light would be fine
Can confirm. Grabbed 2 of them on last run. Moonshine flavor. If I run out of ammo I’m using those to throw.
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What brands are not reliable in your rifles?
SDI and New Republic are two I’ll never use again

I’ve had a few failures with PP, Fiocchi, PMC, Aguila and some others but nothing major. Would still use all of them.

The only 2 brands that I’ve never had a failure with is Lake City and Siberian 7.62x39.
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