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09-24-2018, 09:03 PM
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Tom savage might be an upgrade brahs.

Edit: lol ok I deserve to be negged. I won’t neg back since this should be s no trolling zone. I root against you guys but it’s not as fun with your lord and savior out
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09-24-2018, 09:09 PM
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There was nothing "funny" about how his foot planted he cut on his left leg up field and his knee gave out. That's due to a imbalance and poor training of his body. There's a reason why non contact injuries happen, and it's improper training, poor mechanics, muscle imbalances in general terms. That move he made should absolutely not tear your ACL. If his foot slipped or something weird happened like that I wouldn't be pointing it out, same reason I mentioned contact, Bowman's knee injury is in no way preventable, someone falling on you in that way is a clearly different type of circumstance that happens often. This wasn't the case, as with McKinnon's.


Yes, every team has knee injuries, that goes without saying. This type of injury in this situation shouldn't have occurred. Jimmy could've slid or went OB but he wasn't expecting this to be the result of staying in, and it shouldn't have been. It is what it is, just something that bothers me because there are things to do to help prevent this type of stuff and other injuries as well.
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09-24-2018, 09:12 PM
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Tom savage might be an upgrade brahs.

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LMFAO did you just say Tom Savage might be an upgrade? FUKIN LOL FUNNIEST CHIT I'VE HEARD ALL YEAR
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LMFAO did you just say Tom Savage might be an upgrade? FUKIN LOL FUNNIEST CHIT I'VE HEARD ALL YEAR
Hehehe my favorite part was when I said Tom savage would be an upgrade. Did you see that part? I’ll send you the pic
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09-25-2018, 08:45 AM
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Hehehe my favorite part was when I said Tom savage would be an upgrade. Did you see that part? I’ll send you the pic
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09-25-2018, 12:27 PM
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I hope they promote Nick Mullins instead of those other scrub QBs they are working out today. If any of them plays we wont be winning a game.

I'm curious what CJ can do now that he has 1 year under his belt.
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I hope they promote Nick Mullins instead of those other scrub QBs they are working out today. If any of them plays we wont be winning a game.

I'm curious what CJ can do now that he has 1 year under his belt.
As a George Kittle FF owner, I hope he continues to force him the ball
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09-27-2018, 09:37 AM
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Eric Ried is now with the panthers for a one year deal. Curious to see if he even performs well after such a long layoff now.
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09-28-2018, 07:05 AM
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Watching the Rams is driving me crazy.

But the reaction from 49er fans making comparisons to the Rams is even worse.

Everyone forgets how awful this team was under Chip Kelly and all the roster talent we lost heading into the Jim Tomsula season. It's honestly a crazy situation that few teams have experienced.

It's like in one offseason we lost several all pro/pro bowl players - Willis, Borland, Justin Smith, Aldon Smith, Ray McDonald, Anthony Davis. Had a bunch of guys leave in free agency Crabtree, Delanie Walker, Culliver and Bowman's career was killed due to injuries.

Everyone looks at the Rams and sees their big moves this offseason and thinks we should be doing similar things. Rams had their starting QB, they had an elite RB, they had some terrific players on D. They also added a veteran DC while we have first time Saleh.

Have Goff or Gurley get injured and let's see how great the Rams look then. Much easier to throw a ton of resources and go all in when you have a good QB on a rookie contract.

I do think this offseason we'll be a bit more aggressive. I feel like we've always been targeting next season as the one where we essentially expect a playoff run. Whether that was after signing Cousins or in this case trading for Jimmy.
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09-28-2018, 09:42 AM
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Eric Ried is now with the panthers for a one year deal. Curious to see if he even performs well after such a long layoff now.
Wish him the best of luck but I strongly see him retiring this year if he gets another concussion, which for him seem unavoidable.
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09-28-2018, 09:48 AM
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Let’s not forget how much we hated our offseason. As much as we all tried to justify the FA signings (or lack thereof) and the very underwhelming draft after the fact, the truth is nobody liked the off-season.

Even when we had Jimmy G playing it was apparent we lacked a lot of talent.

Meanwhile the Bears, who had a ton of cap space, went out on got a lot of players, they pushed all their chips in on Mack, and look at them. If they had a semi decent QB they’d be a serious threat. That roster is deep.

Rams went balls deep in the offseason and they look unstoppable.

We absolutely cannot go into the next offseason without being aggressive. Get receivers, get pass rushers, get some playmakers on defense.

I like how the glass half full guys are saying well at least we can get a high pick in the draft. And? So we can get another Soloman “Ghost” Thomas? This Front Office hit the lottery with Jimmy G and they’ve been very underwhelming everywhere else.
Thomas is partly a ghost because of Saleh. There's no fuking way Armstead should be playing over Thomas. Thomas may not be living up to his draft status but he's showing more on tape than Armstead is in his 4th season. Plus Thomas is playing with a lot on his mind after his sister's suicide.

However he's also being played out of position and not being played to his strengths. He should be the big end in this D even if we don't want to move Buckner out of 3T. Thomas needs to be our Michael Bennett. We're asking him to essentially be our Cliff Avril.

Next year's draft class is rich at edge rusher. The type of guys we need in order to move Thomas to his proper spot and keep a guy like Marsh on the bench.

Nick Bosa, Clelin Ferrell, Montez Sweat and Brian Burns are legit edge rushers who would make us a much better defense. There are several other quality rushers who could be available.

We definitely have to double down on addressing pass rush this upcoming offseason. I'm looking at signing someone like Brandon Graham in FA and then still going edge rusher in the first round. It's that important.
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09-28-2018, 11:40 AM
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Let’s not forget how much we hated our offseason. As much as we all tried to justify the FA signings (or lack thereof) and the very underwhelming draft after the fact, the truth is nobody liked the off-season.

Even when we had Jimmy G playing it was apparent we lacked a lot of talent.

Meanwhile the Bears, who had a ton of cap space, went out on got a lot of players, they pushed all their chips in on Mack, and look at them. If they had a semi decent QB they’d be a serious threat. That roster is deep.

Rams went balls deep in the offseason and they look unstoppable.

We absolutely cannot go into the next offseason without being aggressive. Get receivers, get pass rushers, get some playmakers on defense.

I like how the glass half full guys are saying well at least we can get a high pick in the draft. And? So we can get another Soloman “Ghost” Thomas? This Front Office hit the lottery with Jimmy G and they’ve been very underwhelming everywhere else.
This x6000.

Hopefully it’s a valuable lesson learned. Maybe someone will call Lynch and hand him a playmaker. We need it.

Need a true playmaking WR for JG. The Goodwin experiment was fun but that’s what you do when you have Brady or another proven elite QB. Don’t give JG scraps while he’s evolving.

Rams are light years ahead of us but hopefully Goff’s contract will bring them back…right now, they will be incredibly tough for anyone to beat. We have lost people for sure…but McKinnon may be a “critical” piece to us, but a borderline starter for playoff rosters

Long way to go. Hopefully scouts help Lynch and he doesn’t fall in love with another fellow classmate. Lynch hasn’t proven sht other than he like to yap his mouth and come to the sidelines in a suit as if he has any sort of actual credibility as a GM. But man, glad we saved that money on Robinson lol.
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09-28-2018, 12:01 PM
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This x6000.

Hopefully it’s a valuable lesson learned. Maybe someone will call Lynch and hand him a playmaker. We need it.

Need a true playmaking WR for JG. The Goodwin experiment was fun but that’s what you do when you have Brady or another proven elite QB. Don’t give JG scraps while he’s evolving.

Rams are light years ahead of us but hopefully Goff’s contract will bring them back…right now, they will be incredibly tough for anyone to beat. We have lost people for sure…but McKinnon may be a “critical” piece to us, but a borderline starter for playoff rosters

Long way to go. Hopefully scouts help Lynch and he doesn’t fall in love with another fellow classmate. Lynch hasn’t proven sht other than he like to yap his mouth and come to the sidelines in a suit as if he has any sort of actual credibility as a GM. But man, glad we saved that money on Robinson lol.
One thing I said I wasn't going to do this offseason is question the decisions of the team when it comes to offense.

Kyle Shanahan knows what he's doing and what he wants from his players…at least on offense. I wish we could've bribed Vic Fangio into coming back or hiring a proven DC. I know we did have a few guys kind of reject us so not much you can do when that happens.

And no question if you asked me before our free agency last year if I would be thrilled with who we got, i would've said no.

I wanted Allen Robinson. I wanted Andrew Norwell. I was good with Richburg but the McKinnon signing didn't do a ton for me and I was very surprised by the contract.

However once again…it's on offense. I trust Kyle to know that Robinson isn't worth the money in his offense. That McKinnon was.

Shame we couldn't see Jerick out there at all to know whether it was a good move or not. Rams are making Robert Woods and Cooper Kupp look great. Neither guy is considered an elite talent. Brandin Cooks is a good WR but as good of a career as he's had I can't say he's an elite WR either. He's the Goodwin of that offense. Giving the Rams a threat over the top which opens up the short/intermediate for the other guys.

With Goodwin healthy our offense can move as long as we're not losing guys on the OL or our franchise QB. The running game was clicking with Jimmy but Breida or Morris don't provide the same threat in the passing game.

Now our defense is a much bigger mess and that's why we need to go heavy on that in the offseason.

Brandon Graham/Dante Fowler should be serious targets if they hit free agency. That's on top of the guys in the draft. I would certainly like us to get a nice big WR who can stretch things down teh field but also give us a big target in the red zone but those guys don't grow on trees.

IMO we have to go heavy on defense because I trust Kyle with healthy Jimmy can put an offense out there that will move the ball and score points. I don't trust Saleh with the guys we have. Solomon Thomas isn't showing that he can play well on the outside so unless we want him to fail he has to be moved to where he can put his talent to proper work. Bring in an edge rusher to play Leo, get rid of Armstead and put Thomas at big end and let him move inside at 3T next to Buckner on passing downs.
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09-28-2018, 02:20 PM
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Sucks that we are already talking about what to do in the offseason but I guess this is what happens when you lose your QB and RB for the year. I don't think we could have done anything to avoid the predicament we are in today.

I was looking at some stats from the 2016 season and we had 42 different guys start for us that year. Only 7 are left. That's like 84% roster turnover. Unreal.
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09-28-2018, 02:43 PM
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Like everyone said above I hope we go all out next year and try to spend some money. We need a few flashy players on both side to do anything.


I am happy to see that our run blocking is decent and it looks our dline is having an ok time stopping the run. The secondary blows… Other than that we need to tackle and to stop dropping the ball.
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09-29-2018, 04:24 AM
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Much easier to throw a ton of resources and go all in when you have a good QB on a rookie contract.
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wait until that QB (which "might" not be that good without the weapons he currently have) makes 25-30 million per year…
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09-30-2018, 11:07 AM
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Game day! Looking for more positivity and more touches from Breida. A solid game from CJ. And no missed tackles and improved defensive game. Let's get to 2-2 today. No injuries too!
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09-30-2018, 01:32 PM
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Pick 6 and another stop to start for the D! Let's go!
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09-30-2018, 01:33 PM
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****, Pettis hurt. Can we get some better luck on the injury front so frustrating.
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09-30-2018, 01:54 PM
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What is happening
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What is happening
the whole team is injured just lol
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09-30-2018, 02:57 PM
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The injuries are a huge concern, just out of control at this point its ridiculous. That said the defense looked way worse after the first two drives, guys wide open, no pressure, just bad. Offensively Shanny botched that last drive, no runs, no clock wasted when we got it with like 48 seconds, and then a ****ty punt coverage. No way this should be tied right now. We gotta get a TD drive to open the half and play better defense.
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09-30-2018, 03:12 PM
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I hate the fact our DB's, safeties, and LB's in coverage never turn around. So frustrating watching teams make plays that should easily be broken up if they were just turned around to see the ****ing ball. Now the missed tackles coming back out. Wtf
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Oh lawd 3rd string.
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Tip my hat to Beathard. Guys giving it all he has.
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09-30-2018, 04:47 PM
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Frustrating af watching these games man. Same old ****. Doing enough to win, but also doing just a little bit more to lose. The missed tackles and lack of pressure still number 1 issue overall. Second would be drops, especially the super untimely ones that erase big plays or lead to turnovers in key moments. It's terrible watching the coverage not get their head around and giving up plays that should be broken up, doesn't Sherm tell these guys to play the ball.

A bit mad that we aren't running the ball more. Breida has looked REALLY good in that area and is not given the ball enough. He deserves it. Also it helps control clock throughout the game and in key moments, takes pressure off QB and gets play action going.

Kittle still looks good but we need more from our WR's too. This team is hard to watch cause we're like so far away but also not so much at the same time. It's a really weird and frustrating position, which isn't helped at all by the major injuries to Jet and Jimmy as well as all the others that have piled up over the season so far.

Next week we got Arizona but its home for us, let's get to 2-3 and take it from there.
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Frustrating af watching these games man. Same old ****. Doing enough to win, but also doing just a little bit more to lose. The missed tackles and lack of pressure still number 1 issue overall. Second would be drops, especially the super untimely ones that erase big plays or lead to turnovers in key moments. It's terrible watching the coverage not get their head around and giving up plays that should be broken up, doesn't Sherm tell these guys to play the ball.

A bit mad that we aren't running the ball more. Breida has looked REALLY good in that area and is not given the ball enough. He deserves it. Also it helps control clock throughout the game and in key moments, takes pressure off QB and gets play action going.

Kittle still looks good but we need more from our WR's too. This team is hard to watch cause we're like so far away but also not so much at the same time. It's a really weird and frustrating position, which isn't helped at all by the major injuries to Jet and Jimmy as well as all the others that have piled up over the season so far.

Next week we got Arizona but its home for us, let's get to 2-3 and take it from there.
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09-30-2018, 06:31 PM
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I dont understand why we arent running Breida more? Or running more in general.

I was inpressed with Beathard. He is one tough SOB.

If not for Celek dropped ball that was an int we would have won.

Our only hope is we gave them all they could handle without our starting QB, RB, LT, CB, FS, and SS.
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I dont understand why we arent running Breida more? Or running more in general.

I was inpressed with Beathard. He is one tough SOB.

If not for Celek dropped ball that was an int we would have won.

Our only hope is we gave them all they could handle without our starting QB, RB, LT, CB, FS, and SS.
Kyle is all about matchups.

If a defense is giving us a pro passing look by stacking the box to sell out versus the run he's going to call pass plays all game long even with the backup QB. He believes in his scheme and will ride or die with it. And honestly I can't blame him too much for it.

We don't have the type of OL or the type of running game that will work well running into stacked boxes. Sure it hurts your ability to run the clock but I also remember the days of coaches who had us run on first 2 downs when it doesn't work at all and forcing us to face 3rd and long situations all fuking game long.

Our guys just have to make the plays. If you get a favorable passing look then you have to pass protect, throw the ball on target and catch the ball. We no longer have the huge OL and Frank Gore where we could run on teams at will regardless how many they put out there.

The injuries are just brutal though…makes it so hard to watch because I'm running out of players I'm excited to see. Hopefully none of the knee injuries are long term.
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Originally Posted By mngardne
Frustrating af watching these games man. Same old ****. Doing enough to win, but also doing just a little bit more to lose. The missed tackles and lack of pressure still number 1 issue overall. Second would be drops, especially the super untimely ones that erase big plays or lead to turnovers in key moments. It's terrible watching the coverage not get their head around and giving up plays that should be broken up, doesn't Sherm tell these guys to play the ball.

A bit mad that we aren't running the ball more. Breida has looked REALLY good in that area and is not given the ball enough. He deserves it. Also it helps control clock throughout the game and in key moments, takes pressure off QB and gets play action going.

Kittle still looks good but we need more from our WR's too. This team is hard to watch cause we're like so far away but also not so much at the same time. It's a really weird and frustrating position, which isn't helped at all by the major injuries to Jet and Jimmy as well as all the others that have piled up over the season so far.

Next week we got Arizona but its home for us, let's get to 2-3 and take it from there.
Turning your head around can also get you beat BAD. DB coaches teach different things and a lot will say you should play the WR and make the play once they get their hands up. Of course some WRs are really good at not tipping when the pass is coming and snatching it away last minute. It's the price you pay…turning your head around is fine when you think you've got your WR's route down and you have him in a good spot where turning your head around won't give the WR the separation they need to actually make the play.

I think we saw a play like that in preseason vs Dallas. Ward had great coverage, turned his head and Gallup broke away from him for the easy TD.

It's pretty easy for us watching to say turn around because we know where the ball is. The DB has 2 things he can go off of, watching film and trying to recognize the play or the receiver giving it away when the ball is coming. It's risky. You turn too soon and you're done.
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