Shout out to this roster and the excellent GM work. I was happy to hear him on NFL radio the last two weeks.

Agree on saleh. I think he’s good as done after this year however.

This defensive scheme is garbage and not working for our guys. Too many guys regressing and when you see losers like Eli Harold show stuff he's never shown here then it's coaching.

Not sure who will be available but we need someone better.

Glad to see us making this a game but honestly I'd rather improve our draft slot and grab Bosa to help turn around the D. Though a win MNF vs GB would certainly be nice.

It's super frustrating how we're using Thomas. Guy gets barely any playing time inside at 3T on passing downs. If they didn't think he could be a pass rusher then why the fuk did we draft him? If we drafted him to use him as a run d specialist then I'm very scared.

He's their highest draft pick…why not help put him into position to succeed? If he sucks then move on from him but what they're doing to him isn't helping anyone.

Hows breida been looking.

When Goodwin is on he is amazing. He totally changes everything. Just got caught up to the second half. Honestly here is no way we should even be in this game.

Offense looks great. Beathard is playing pretty goood.


Defense blows. I think you guys already covered it. I really don’t even know where to begin. The only thing that I like are our linebackers.

Beathard has some redeemable qualities but when the pressure is on, he seems to fold. Maybe he evolves.

Shout out to lynch going on field to really asses the talent on the team. Dedication.

Sucks but Aaron smelled blood in the water (Greg Mabin) and exposed him.

Oh well we arent going anywhere this year might as well lose.

Another typical frustrating Niners loss.

A couple turnovers too many on plays we shouldn't have, meanwhile our own D forces none.

Terrible DB play and coverage overall where they don't turn their heads around and because they don't have eyes in the back of their head they give up big plays. Meanwhile GB defender actually turns his head, sees the ball, and intercepts CJ on our final drive.

Throw in a heartbreaking penalty (albeit penalty they most likely will always call, but doesn't affect the play at all) to crush your hopes on what else would have been a game changing sack.

Some really great play and execution followed by poor play, decisions, and execution. Coaching doing well but also not well enough.

At least we didn't have any major injuries (some minor but not season ending, maybe Ward for a few weeks, but we're used to that with him).

Penalties and missed tackles were a couple but not as bad as usual. Goodwin looked good tonight, Kittle and Breida still did as well. CJ did great but still could've been better in a perfect world, he was good enough to win IMO.

I loved Sherm stepping up to guard Adams, regardless of the penalty call.

Some other positives but still overshadowed by the loss and frustrating nature of it IMO. I guess we're still trending forward in the right path, who knows though, at some point without wins and close losses like these reoccurring, seems like our ceiling is just this. Something has to click.

Blair looked better tonight, Buck still a monster. Ruben seems off but still serviceable with Warner, and I wanna see Thomas get a chance inside. What the hell why not at this point try anything and everything, nothing to lose see what works for the rest of the year, not just for him but everyone on D, and O just to see what we got because next year I feel like we really need to know with all these guys who stays and who goes.

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He still has it…. Or at least most of it! Now need to replace Colbert, and who ever is playing on the other side of sherman.

We signed Tom Salvage and waived Cole Wick.

We shocking the world today, beating the Rams in those beautiful 94 throwbacks! Go Niners!

I hope so man, this season has been so frustrating so far. They look like a legit playoff team at times, the talent is there in a lot of spots. They are just making a lot of mental errors and the injuries are in key areas that have really brought us down. This could have been a 1 loss team so far but all the little stuff, the close losses, etc.

Definitely excited to see where we're at in the next 1-2 years

Looks like Sherman is inactive. Not good.

No Sherman fuk

Beathard gunna beathard…..


Also Breida hurt. Not good.



Also defense playing ok.



Edit again… go monster

What was that?

We taking the division next year brah
GOATpollo and Shanahan bla bla blah

Nobody was predicting we'd win the division this year considering how all in the Rams went.

Btw in case you didn't notice(assuming you even watched the game) Garoppolo wasn't out there. Neither was our best corner and half the defense is playing injured.

Beathard is a tough SOB but his pocket presence is awful. Look forward to next year with Jimmy back and hopefully some actual pass rushers.

Donald is scary good.

Dah
I know garopollo is out all season but you guys already sucked with him and sherman as starters, lol.

Try again.

1. Don't come in here to troll

2. We were 1-2 with 2 road loses to SB contenders.

See how the Rams do when they lose Gurley, Goff, lose Cooks for a few games and have all their DBs banged up.

Rams went all in for this season and are playing great. It's not unexpected. Let's see if you can close out the season with a playoff W.

Anyways…back to my niner bros.

This season has been a bummer with all the injuries, Jimmy's being the biggest one but I'm not understanding why some of the fans are flipping the fuk out.

Everyone forgets how crappy this roster was when Kyle and Lynch took over the roster. They're quick to point to the Rams and their quick turn around with McVay and their 7-0 start this year…sure those guys had 10 straight seasons of losing records. They hit on some key impact players and McVay is making great use of them.

As I mentioned above picture the Rams without Goff and Gurley this year…

My only concern is on the defensive side of the field. I'm not sure what's going on there. Sometimes we look good…other times we're straight up brutal. Young players looking lost and playing much worse compared to last year. Solomon Thomas who I thought would be a great player for us appears to be closer to bust status than stud status. That sucks. I really felt great about that pick at the time.

Having said that I think next year we can get things back on track. I don't see us finishing with #1 overall - next 3 weeks will certainly go a long way to determining where we should be picking. We lose next 3 weeks and we're making it look good for #1 overall.

Arizona - definitely a challenger for #1 overall. Odds of going edge rusher high but could go with Oliver versus Bosa.
Raiders - selling the farm and clear challengers for #1 overall. Odds of going with edge rusher almost a certainty.
Giants - I do think they have enough talent not to get #1 overall but I would think they have to go QB over edge rusher with how Eli has played.

The guys I'm eyeing heavily for us right now

Nick Bosa - dominant edge rusher, awesome technique. Great size, probably great athletic ability similar to his big brother. Biggest red flag? Family injury concerns. Nothing kills talent faster than laziness(he's not) and injuries(his family does have history of it)
Clelin Ferrell - I have to look at more of his stuff and I'm always nervous with guys on super talented DLs. How much is them vs opportunity. Ferrell does look to have grown as a rusher from last year which is a great sign but out of all the guys I'm going to mention he leaves me most concerned about his athletic ability.
Montez Sweat - kid is having himself a season. He was the guy I was eyeing for us when I still thought we'd have a pick in the 20s but he's climbing and could definitely help himself at the combine and wind up as a top 10, maybe even top 5 selection when it's said and done.
Brian Burns - smallest of the 4 guys but killing it right now. Pressure and sack galore. Very curious to see his weight at the combine and his combine numbers.

Others to look at if we trade down or trade up from our 2nd rounder.

Jachai Polite - another guy earning himself a lot of money this year. Great get off and hustle. Doesn't have the height/weight of some other guys but no denying he's a bad mofo as a rusher.
Josh Allen - Consistent as hell for Kentucky and helping them be legit this year
Jaylon Ferguson - need to see more of him but leading NCAA in sacks currently
Chase Winovich - Lunch pail to work kind of rusher

This draft has some promising WRs as well but I'm hoping Pettis can get healthy and get out there to show what he can do(sucks he can't get that chemistry going with Jimmy) but I do think WR may be a priority as well. I just hope we don't ignore the glutton of edge rush talent in this draft class and draft someone else early thinking we can get one in the 2nd round only to wind up with our dicks in our hands as the top guys are scooped up.

It sucks that on defense without Sherman the oldest guy is what Jimmy Ward? I basically see a bunch of people not knowing what the hell they're supposed to do or just not good enough at doing it. Then Foster has looked a shell of himself compared to last year for whatever reason, and same with some of the other players who looked good last year. Injuries piling up…

On offense we look great 20% of the time and miserable the rest, mainly because the WRs don't do anything, and we have a knack for creating turnovers whether its fumbles or interceptions they just happen, repeatedly. Run game has been a bright spot imo but still turnovers there occur frequently. OL was bad in pass pro last game imo and CJ pocket presence is very minimal. Kittle is the guy who plays best, with the best attitude. We need that to catch on among the offense, specifically the WRs, but the talent there is so little. Looking forward to Pettis getting healthy but with CJ looking worse and worse each game not sure it will matter.

Last game was our worst special teams performance all year.

I'm deeply concerned that we play our next 3 games against terrible terrible opponents but I feel we will find ways to lose all those games. Hell we already lost to AZ in Levi's, and with our turnover abundance on offense and lack thereof on defense I think we lose against anyone at this point. Until they turn that around their is no chance no matter how good they look at times. Rooting for wins of course but at this point I see this team for who they are, and its deeply frustrating.

Colbert is now on IR. I hope they just tank the rest of the season to get a better pick. Hopefully next year they are able to works some trades or just bring in some other vets who can play and make a impact. At this point I would just trash the whole defense minus a few players. Offense isn't that bad… Run game is nice, but we can't pass for $hit. Need another WR who can make an impact. Keep Pettis, and goodwin. TE's are fine, same with running backs. Online need better guards and maybe another tackle for Joe.

You know I respect your opinion but why?

Look at that Rams win when Kap ran in for the 2pt conversion in 2016. All it did was put us at #2 when getting #1 overall that year would've meant we got Myles Garrett who was by far the best player and biggest need for us at the time minus QB.

Sometimes it's better to lose close games versus winning meaningless games which nobody will remember in a year.

This year Nick Bosa may not be the clear best guy like Garrett was but he's perfect for what we need. I'd rather get #1 overall knowing that it was in large part due to injuries. Much easier to regroup next year with a guy like Bosa and hopefully some other additions.

I also think you're selling the offense short on the 20% part. The issue there is turnovers and injuries obviously. We can move the ball but the turnovers are killing us. It's clear we overrated our WRs heading into the year and Garçon seems to be a shell of what he was last year. I do wonder how the offense would've looked with McKinnon healthy and Goodwin not getting hurt early week 1 with Jimmy at QB and Pettis out there.

I'll do my mock offseason in a bit but WR is a need. I just hope we don't make a mistake of going WR early in the draft over the pass rusher. I trust Kyle to get production out of lesser WR talent over Saleh getting production out of lesser edge rushers.

Here's what I'd love to see as far as our upcoming offseason(trying to keep it as realistic as possible)

Re-sign/Extend:

Robbie Gould
Kyle Nelson
Raheem Mostert
Bradley Pinion(our whole kicking unit appears to be free agents)


Sign:

Earl Thomas - hoping he prefers to come here to stick it to Seattle more so than he wants to go play for Dallas. We should open up the wallet and bring him in. Perfect scheme fit, leadership, familiarity with Sherm and exactly what we need. Allows Tartt and Colbert to fight for SS.

Roger Saffold - fortify the G position with a veteran and steal from the Rams in the process.

Dante Fowler - will cost money just cuz he's a pass rusher but shouldn't break the bank like some other guys. Scheme familiarity and provides depth/rotation at Leo

Chris Hogan - familiarity with Jimmy. Quality WR who can play all over the field.

Tyrell Williams - big body WR who can help in the redzone and able to get behind DBs to help keep them honest.

Bradley Roby - Denver may not let him get away but they may have cap issues. Roby has been playing pretty well and will at worst provide good competition but will likely be the starter across from Sherm.


Draft(only gonna do day 1-2 for now):

1. Montez Sweat - I think when it's said and done we don't get #1 overall which rules out Nick Bosa. As I've said several times in this thread there are other guys available after Bosa. I may change my mind on my favorite after Bosa once I dig into the tape of all the guys but thinking Sweat will be a probable target where we wind up.

2. Noah Fant - gives us an elite TE group with two studs from Iowa

3. JJ Arcega-Whiteside - big size WR who can battle for the ball and give us more threat in the redzone.

Draft is pretty tough to predict at this point not knowing where we're going to pick and the stock of players climbing/falling so much in the next few months but to me edge rusher is a MUST in the first 2 rounds, preferably round 1. I think WR and CB is also one of our bigger needs. I took Fant just because the guy is a stud. I think when it's all said and done he's actually a first round pick. But having a 2 TE set with Kittle and Fant would make us a nightmare to defend.

Because when I sit down on Sunday and watch the whole game it feels a lot better when they win. I can't sit there and root for a loss. I don't look at the season as a play for next year type of thing. You end up where you end up and you compete for wins along the way. The problem is watching I already know what to expect, but I can't bring myself to just not watch. We get 16 games a year and thats it. I totally understand people rooting for a better draft pick but I'm not that kinda guy.

I get it but we lose that game to the Rams and Myles Garrett is a 49er right now. This defense with him is totally different and would allow us to go BPA in this draft class, whether that's Bosa and give us the best pass rush in the game or add someone like Ed Oliver who would dominate inside with Buckner.

I feel like this year especially it's like an understanding that no Jimmy = tank mode. It would be much worse if Jimmy was playing and we were looking this bad or we didn't have a QB in hand and we're heading into new coaching staff/regime change which brings a ton of changes.

IMO this year is a step back before a leap forward. Better draft pick should make it easier. And sometimes the difference in talent is a clear gap. It was that year.

It's all hypothetical, philosophical if you really wanna get into what you're saying. I don't care who is on the team, I just want wins. I'm watching either way and wins are better than losses. Who knows if Garrett joins our team, or what injuries do or don't occur if he joins us, if we get Jimmy then, if we select other draft picks than what we selected after the Garrett pick. Thats a game I don't like getting in to. I'm into the real world, the one where we're 1-6 a turnover machine and a damn frustrating team to watch. They need to be better, regardless who they put out there. Yes I want every draft pick to be a home run, it doesn't work that way, for us or any team. We just have to be better, I get injuries, youth, and a variety of other reasons explain why we suck. But at some point you gotta man up and get a win. At least lose because you got beat, not because you beat yourself, over and over. Either way, I hope we get the best pick in the draft whether its picking 1 or 600. And that we win on Sundays. Every Sunday.

If Foster doesn’t work out (shoulder looks concerning, rated as one of the worst linebackers playing right now)….it will be very interesting to look back at Lynch’s work so far. Had a golden opportunity with picks, cap, to really make something happen and turned it over to this dik.

As for winning and losing…I root to win when the game is on but perfectly fine with a loss. I will not be fine with losses to Seattle, top pick or not.

Foster will be fine. I think our guys have declined across the board from last year. PFF isn't the ultimate cut or dry analysis on how someone looks but saw Al Sacco post this and it's kind of crazy

#49ers D PFF scores 2017 vs. 2018. The drop-offs are staggering. Something's wrong across the board.

Buckner
'17: 90.4
'18: 77.5

Foster
'17: 90.7
'18: 44.3

Tartt
'17: 85.7
'18: 62.4

Witherspoon
'17: 81.1
'18: 45

Colbert
'17: 77.6
'18: 31.7

Williams:
'17: 80.2
'18: 68.8


Pretty much every player worth looking at has declined per PFF since last season.

Hopefully we see some changes to that defensive staff.

Acorn head gotta go