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09-12-2023, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted By Horse86⏩
coool so you mean I have effectively 2 weapons in one that can do both "good"?
You think .45 ACP pistol ballistics out of a shoulder fired weapon is good?

Bless your heart, sug

As long as you're having fun and being safe I guess that's all that matters though
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09-12-2023, 12:48 PM
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You think .45 ACP pistol ballistics out of a shoulder fired weapon is good?

Bless your heart, sug

As long as you're having fun and being safe I guess that's all that matters though
not I…30 cal ballistics suppressed out of a 10.5" out to a 100yrds hitting sub MOA is superior to any 45 cal pistol ballistics and anything it's being shot out of.

Brozef hit em with some more gel tests.
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09-12-2023, 12:57 PM
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not I…30 cal ballistics suppressed out of a 10.5" barbell out to a 100yrds hitting sub MOA is superior to any 45 cal and anything it's being shot out of.

Brozef hit em with some more gel tests.
suppressed implies subsonic

BC will surely be better for 30 cal bullets but damn if 230grain aint mushroom stampin any princess in the way
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09-12-2023, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted By rectifryer⏩
suppressed implies subsonic

BC will surely be better for 30 cal bullets but damn if 230grain aint mushroom stampin any princess in the way
right i'm referring to subs/suppressed when talking about the 45 cal comparo. Ideally 190g should do the trick.
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09-12-2023, 01:21 PM
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right i'm referring to subs/suppressed when talking about the 45 cal comparo. Ideally 190g should do the trick.
If you think a subsonic 300 blk is more effective at 100 yards than a good 5.56, well, bless your heart sug
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09-12-2023, 01:23 PM
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If you think a subsonic 300 blk is more effective at 100 yards than a good 5.56, well, bless your heart sug
you keep changing the topic bruv
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09-12-2023, 01:26 PM
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you keep changing the topic bruv
hmm, thought we were comparing 5.56 to 300 blackout

Sorry if I misunderstood.

Sounds like you have something more complicated going on. I'll leave you alone. Carry on
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09-12-2023, 03:28 PM
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Nobody GAF that you can spend more money to get the same performance out of "super" 300 as you get out of good 5.56.
I'm not sure this is true if we are strictly talking about soft tissue targets.

But 5.56 owns when it comes to armor penetration, 300 blk is just too slow.
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09-12-2023, 03:34 PM
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300 blk is cope
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09-12-2023, 03:45 PM
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I would just like to point out that a 300 BLK sub will be over 900 fps out to 400 yds.

The 45 maintains that to 100 yds. The BCs on them are similar to 300 PRC, with wildly superior wind performance.

It's 45 acp muzzle energy, out to 400 yds. It has limited applications though and the correction needed is kind of a lot.
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09-12-2023, 04:01 PM
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300 blk is cope
It neat to play with.

But .223 is better for taking down deer, that's for sure.
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09-12-2023, 10:46 PM
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thoughts on getting a Sig Sauer Sig- MPX RMPX16B935 MPX PCC 9mm Luger 35+1 16", instead of the MK18 for home defense?

Seems like I could buy this without the ATF forms unless I'm mistaken.
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09-12-2023, 11:01 PM
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thoughts on getting a Sig Sauer Sig- MPX RMPX16B935 MPX PCC 9mm Luger 35+1 16", instead of the MK18 for home defense?

Seems like I could buy this without the ATF forms unless I'm mistaken.
There is absolutely zero chance I would trust a firearm Sig made for any sort of defensive purpose. Just buy a Hi-Point and improve your odds of it running.
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09-12-2023, 11:25 PM
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300 blk is cope
Ive never wanted to even bother with it

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09-12-2023, 11:47 PM
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There is absolutely zero chance I would trust a firearm Sig made for any sort of defensive purpose. Just buy a Hi-Point and improve your odds of it running.
i may just go with a $600 PSA AR-15. They seem to have really good reviews and at the end of the day I just want something that is going to go boom. With that $ I can buy some nice upgrades too
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09-13-2023, 03:50 AM
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I would just like to point out that a 300 BLK sub will be over 900 fps out to 400 yds.

The 45 maintains that to 100 yds. The BCs on them are similar to 300 PRC, with wildly superior wind performance.

It's 45 acp muzzle energy, out to 400 yds. It has limited applications though and the correction needed is kind of a lot.
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09-13-2023, 03:32 PM
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I'm contractually obligated to relocate to california.

Can I convert my ar weapons to featureless and still use detachable 30 round mags with them in california?
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09-13-2023, 03:39 PM
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I was bringing up the 5.56 short barrel with suppressor question, because I was having second thoughts on a 300BO upper. If I had a 10.3 or 9.5" 5.56 barrel, but with a pinned and welded suppressor with a total length of 16" or 17", would it still have drastic performance issues?






Originally Posted By nn586⏩
i may just go with a $600 PSA AR-15. They seem to have really good reviews and at the end of the day I just want something that is going to go boom. With that $ I can buy some nice upgrades too
Oh lawd, Farley is going to bully you.


Just FYI I have a PSA rifle, it's been great for 1k~ rounds. I put a bmmg kit in it to shoot .22, and besides some mag issues, the gun itself is still working well. For the money, they're good, but don't expect a good home defense setup out of it.
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09-13-2023, 03:45 PM
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Hey that reminds me, who here has the bmmg kit for an AR-15, was it you, Brosef? Did you say you bought different mags that work with that kit? I'm having failure to feed issues, and I'm wondering if the mags are at fault. The gun worked great before the kit.
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09-14-2023, 06:38 AM
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Oh lawd, Farley is going to bully you.


Just FYI I have a PSA rifle, it's been great for 1k~ rounds. I put a bmmg kit in it to shoot .22, and besides some mag issues, the gun itself is still working well. For the money, they're good, but don't expect a good home defense setup out of it.
The PSA rifles have great reviews and they seem to pass most torture tests on youtube. (passed all the ones that I have seen) so they seem pretty solid




you wouldnt trust it for home defense?
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09-14-2023, 08:08 AM
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I'm contractually obligated to relocate to california.

Can I convert my ar weapons to featureless and still use detachable 30 round mags with them in california?
I'm contractually obligated to call you a ****in retard.

My info on Cali laws is (thankfully) dated so do further research, but you're committing a crime by bring 30 rounders into the state. As a new resident of that **** hole, you will never be able to use 30 rounders (or any mag over 10 rounds).

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The PSA rifles have great reviews and they seem to pass most torture tests on youtube. (passed all the ones that I have seen) so they seem pretty solid




you wouldnt trust it for home defense?
No.

You get what you pay for. PSA will have a much higher chance of QC issues. Maybe you'll be fine. Maybe you won't. As a first rifle to just get into this, it's not terrible, but that's why the phrase, "buy once cry once" is used so often in this industry.

I'd bet most guys in this thread, and those that take AR related training seriously, do not currently use the first AR they bought/assembled. You learn a lot after your first one if you're not guided from the beginning and likely end up spending more in the end by upgrading to something better down the road.
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I'm contractually obligated to call you a ****in retard.

My info on Cali laws is (thankfully) dated so do further research, but you're committing a crime by bring 30 rounders into the state. As a new resident of that **** hole, you will never be able to use 30 rounders (or any mag over 10 rounds).



No.

You get what you pay for. PSA will have a much higher chance of QC issues. Maybe you'll be fine. Maybe you won't. As a first rifle to just get into this, it's not terrible, but that's why the phrase, "buy once cry once" is used so often in this industry.

I'd bet most guys in this thread, and those that take AR related training seriously, do not currently use the first AR they bought/assembled. You learn a lot after your first one if you're not guided from the beginning and likely end up spending more in the end by upgrading to something better down the road.
I see. I just threw it out there to see but I'm still looking on what I want to get. I was interested in getting a KAC until I saw the price. $4-10k from what I saw. I'd say my budget is max $2.5-3k. The KACs look awesome though, just need to win the lottery first
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09-14-2023, 09:22 AM
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I see. I just threw it out there to see but I'm still looking on what I want to get. I was interested in getting a KAC until I saw the price. $4-10k from what I saw. I'd say my budget is max $2.5-3k. The KACs look awesome though, just need to win the lottery first
Lots of guys on here have far more experience with ARs than I. I've seen a list posted of gucci ARs in the past:

BCM
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Wilson Combat

I'm sure there's a couple more. I have a Larue that I like. Technically I suppose it's all Larue parts other than a stripped PSA lower. I think that's a decent option for bang for your buck. I do think 1 AR is always better than 0 ARs. I'd guess you could pick up a PSA AR when they're running a sale and get all your money out of it later on when you upgrade depending on the buy/sell climate. Right now, I'm optimistic that we're heading into a really good buyers' market in the coming months. It cant sure change fast though.
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I'm contractually obligated to call you a ****in retard.

My info on Cali laws is (thankfully) dated so do further research, but you're committing a crime by bring 30 rounders into the state. As a new resident of that **** hole, you will never be able to use 30 rounders (or any mag over 10 rounds).
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I read that freedom week means 30 rd mags are generally accepted if you have a featureless rifle.

But yes, I am ret ard. Going somewhere cool, though. Florida has way too many people now.
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I see. I just threw it out there to see but I'm still looking on what I want to get. I was interested in getting a KAC until I saw the price. $4-10k from what I saw. I'd say my budget is max $2.5-3k. The KACs look awesome though, just need to win the lottery first
If you're on a budget, get a BCM upper and an Aero lower.

If you want an SBR, get the lower, do a form 1 once approved buy a shorty BCM upper.
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If you're on a budget, get a BCM upper and an Aero lower.

If you want an SBR, get the lower, do a form 1 once approved buy a shorty BCM upper.
Just peeked at Larue's prices. Their uppers have gone up a bunch since I bought mine. $1,300 now. When I got mine in 2020, they were $800 for the ultimate upper kit which included the assembled upper and everything but the stripped lower. BCM looks like a much better deal now ($700 + or - for an upper)

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I decided to get a Benelli M4 with 00 buckshot for home defense

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I'm contractually obligated to relocate to california.

Can I convert my ar weapons to featureless and still use detachable 30 round mags with them in california?
1. CA does not have constructive intent for AWs. You can detach the upper from the lower and it is legal so long as you never attach the parts within CA borders.

2. Featureless is pretty gay unless you like fin grips and ruining your muscle memory for operating a safety selector and just looking gay in general instead of a Delta Force alpha male. You can use 30 round mags if they are grandfathered, but maglock (10 rounds only) is just way better and easier for conversions: https://youtu.be/CRgyoOULeKQ

3. Importing or buying 30 round mags in CA is illegal. I recommend you go to the local gunstore and buy some pinned mags with cash. Or you can convert your existing mags to 10 rounders. Do not drill out the rivet because this will convert them to full capacity mags which is illegal.

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