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09-15-2023, 10:29 AM
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I see. I just threw it out there to see but I'm still looking on what I want to get. I was interested in getting a KAC until I saw the price. $4-10k from what I saw. I'd say my budget is max $2.5-3k. The KACs look awesome though, just need to win the lottery first
If you want to go full retard with KAC, just buy an upper. You don't need a KAC lower. Generally speaking, all lowers are the same. The main difference in some will be whether or not they're ambi and, to be perfectly honest, unless you're a lefty ambi lowers are way overrated.

KAC uppers new will be right around $2k. Used uppers (or second hand brand new ones) can be had for several hundred less. You could easily put together an AR with a KAC upper and keep things within your $3k budget, though that may be difficult if the budget is factoring in an optic, light, sling, mags, ammo.

The list Farmers gave you below is definitely a good one and I'd fully recommend anything from those brands as well. I'd also add LaRue to the list.

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Lots of guys on here have far more experience with ARs than I. I've seen a list posted of gucci ARs in the past:

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Wilson Combat

I'm sure there's a couple more. I have a Larue that I like. Technically I suppose it's all Larue parts other than a stripped PSA lower. I think that's a decent option for bang for your buck. I do think 1 AR is always better than 0 ARs. I'd guess you could pick up a PSA AR when they're running a sale and get all your money out of it later on when you upgrade depending on the buy/sell climate. Right now, I'm optimistic that we're heading into a really good buyers' market in the coming months. It cant sure change fast though.
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I read that freedom week means 30 rd mags are generally accepted if you have a featureless rifle.

But yes, I am ret ard. Going somewhere cool, though. Florida has way too many people now.
Not sure. Even if it did, it wouldn't be for people that are brand new residents in late 2023. Sure, they'd have to prove that, but I've had close enough calls in CA that I don't think it's worth it to train in public with questionable items.

Where at? Not many places in CA I'd classify as cool. I'm not sure if the Florida comment is a coping mechanism, but CA literally has twice the amount of people lol.
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09-15-2023, 05:13 PM
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Where at? Not many places in CA I'd classify as cool. I'm not sure if the Florida comment is a coping mechanism, but CA literally has twice the amount of people lol.
Florida has 400 people per sq mile, California only has 254. Its that fukking crazy here right now. You can't escape in florida because its all sprawled out.

IM'd you the location.
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09-15-2023, 07:40 PM
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I’m struggling to find a comfortable IWB holster that’s comfortable while driving, what my solution?
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09-16-2023, 04:02 PM
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So I think my favorite light is still my OG Rein 1.0. I got the Rein 3.0 but, the 1.0 has a much better color temperature. Far more neutral/warm light with higher CRI. The color temp of the 3.0 is pretty high (bluish) and the CRI isn't as good (colors not quite as natural/good). It is a tighter beam that clearly has more candela and thus range, but then my home defense firearm doesn't need that lol.

For max PID distance/max intensity right at the thing you point it at, the Rein 3.0 is still better.
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09-16-2023, 10:08 PM
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Anyone use onehundredconcepts hex caps for their optics? Looking at adding them to my red dots for reducing reflection.

Also might consider their light caps. They have a new snap cap pro doo-dad dropping soon. $60 for 2 pieces of molded plastic and ranger cord…
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09-17-2023, 03:06 AM
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Not many places in CA I'd classify as cool. I'm not sure if the Florida comment is a coping mechanism, but CA literally has twice the amount of people lol.
generally speaking i agree. but i do have some good memories of butte county.
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09-17-2023, 06:52 AM
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Anyone use onehundredconcepts hex caps for their optics? Looking at adding them to my red dots for reducing reflection.

Also might consider their light caps. They have a new snap cap pro doo-dad dropping soon. $60 for 2 pieces of molded plastic and ranger cord…
Where do you live and what are you doing that you think you need to prevent glint off of an optic?
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09-17-2023, 07:53 AM
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Where do you live and what are you doing that you think you need to prevent glint off of an optic?
That’s classified. Why do you need a silencer, sir?


Question still stands…anyone use and like these on their optics and lights?
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09-17-2023, 10:21 AM
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That’s classified. Why do you need a silencer, sir?


Question still stands…anyone use and like these on their optics and lights?
Hearing protection, reduced flinch while shooting, recoil reduction without an accompanying enveloping concussive blast. It's literally better for just about any application except for bleeding edge competitive shooting, and even that is subjective depending on your cartridge.

Meanwhile, a honeycomb in front of your lens is good for exactly 1 thing, which is reducing glint signature on an optic for avoiding detection by people. (and I guess maybe minor protection of your objective side lens)


You're not going to have a lot of people with experience with these, because it's an extremely niche product.
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yeah, don't ask about anything unnecessary for hobby shooting.
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09-17-2023, 11:03 AM
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That’s classified. Why do you need a silencer, sir?
First all of, it's not about need , because it's a Bill of Rights …and even without the Constitution and its Amendments, the burden of proof is always on the person who wants to control what other people do/own. Yes I know this doesn't fit into your spat with Ike necessarily as it's a two way street but gotta say it.

Now, to the direct question: What are the benefits of a silencer/suppressor?

Not damaging your hearing permanently with just one shot. Sure, if you gotta defend yourself or family, you deal with the hearing damage, but…that doesn't mean you have to if you don't have to.

Not damaging your hearing or other people's hearing due to repeated exposure even with some hearing protection. I constantly see people with nothing but over the ear muffs rated for an NRR of like 18-22 on the thinner ones….you get a 165 dB rifle and reduce it by even 25 dB and you're still doing damage.

If guns were X dB loud, and putting an accessory on made them X+35 dB loud, anybody who did that would be ridiculed and or told they were doing something wrong. Fact.
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09-17-2023, 07:22 PM
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Hearing protection, reduced flinch while shooting, recoil reduction without an accompanying enveloping concussive blast. It's literally better for just about any application except for bleeding edge competitive shooting, and even that is subjective depending on your cartridge.

Meanwhile, a honeycomb in front of your lens is good for exactly 1 thing, which is reducing glint signature on an optic for avoiding detection by people. (and I guess maybe minor protection of your objective side lens)


You're not going to have a lot of people with experience with these, because it's an extremely niche product.
I guess that’s why they are always sold out. Ppl must like “niche”. Which makes it not…so…niche. The rainbow reflective mirror coating is is pretty fn noticeable bro even from a long distance.

And I see a lot of ppl with covers on their torches…bc why would you not.

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09-17-2023, 08:25 PM
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I guess that’s why they are always sold out. Ppl must like “niche”. Which makes it not…so…niche. The rainbow reflective mirror coating is is pretty fn noticeable bro even from a long distance.

And I see a lot of ppl with covers on their torches…bc why would you not.

>spray paint the gun in all kinds of 4D camo colors to make it super duper hard to see
> leaves mirror/reflective surfaces wide the f open


They're a small company, I expect they're always sold out because they don't make a lot of product.

Covers on lights seem to be about protecting your light from carbon deposits.

Most people spray painting rifles are doing it for fun. Buying killflashes for fun is a different level. Again, niche
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09-18-2023, 01:08 PM
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Florida has 400 people per sq mile, California only has 254. Its that fukking crazy here right now. You can't escape in florida because its all sprawled out.

IM'd you the location.
I'm not sure if it's even possible to figure this out since there are certainly towns across CA with a tiny handful of people, but the vast majority of CA is uninhabited. Idk what the breakdown of people per square mile would be of the inhabited areas, but my guess is it would be much higher than CA. So much of the state is empty wilderness. Even if you moved to the middle of nowhere in CA, you're still subject to all of their laws and policies. **** that. I'll check PM.

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generally speaking i agree. but i do have some good memories of butte county.
I have good memories from CA as well, but that doesn't make up for how god awful that state is.

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Anyone use onehundredconcepts hex caps for their optics? Looking at adding them to my red dots for reducing reflection.

Also might consider their light caps. They have a new snap cap pro doo-dad dropping soon. $60 for 2 pieces of molded plastic and ranger cord…
I run two of their Light Caps and just got a Scope Cap Pro for my ATACR (which is essentially a hex cap for magnified optics). Their products are great and they're doing some cool stuff. While their prices are pretty high for what you're actually getting, they're relatively cheap and work really well.

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Where do you live and what are you doing that you think you need to prevent glint off of an optic?
I mentioned this just a few days ago, but anyone with an AR that is shooting beyond 25m and/or shooting with any type of kit is doing so to train for some type of SHTF scenario, for lack of a better term. I think we can all agree on that? That being said, preventing glint is simply one aspect of training for those type of combat scenarios.

I recently put an ARD from OHC on my ATACR for that application. If I'm wearing kit and using my rifle in some type of SHTF scenario, much of what I'll be doing will likely be observing. ARDs are big for that.

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They're a small company, I expect they're always sold out because they don't make a lot of product.

Covers on lights seem to be about protecting your light from carbon deposits.

Most people spray painting rifles are doing it for fun. Buying killflashes for fun is a different level. Again, niche
For how big OHC has gotten, I don't think they're nearly as niche/small as you think.

Light covers have two main functions and you listed one, the other is to prevent NDs. They're very cheap and weigh nothing. I run them on both of my rifles.

Painting rifles serves a purpose other than just aesthetically/for fun.
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09-18-2023, 02:49 PM
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I'm not sure if it's even possible to figure this out since there are certainly towns across CA with a tiny handful of people, but the vast majority of CA is uninhabited. Idk what the breakdown of people per square mile would be of the inhabited areas, but my guess is it would be much higher than CA. So much of the state is empty wilderness. Even if you moved to the middle of nowhere in CA, you're still subject to all of their laws and policies. **** that. I'll check PM.



I have good memories from CA as well, but that doesn't make up for how god awful that state is.



I run two of their Light Caps and just got a Scope Cap Pro for my ATACR (which is essentially a hex cap for magnified optics). Their products are great and they're doing some cool stuff. While their prices are pretty high for what you're actually getting, they're relatively cheap and work really well.



I mentioned this just a few days ago, but anyone with an AR that is shooting beyond 25m and/or shooting with any type of kit is doing so to train for some type of SHTF scenario, for lack of a better term. I think we can all agree on that? That being said, preventing glint is simply one aspect of training for those type of combat scenarios.

I recently put an ARD from OHC on my ATACR for that application. If I'm wearing kit and using my rifle in some type of SHTF scenario, much of what I'll be doing will likely be observing. ARDs are big for that.



For how big OHC has gotten, I don't think they're nearly as niche/small as you think.

Light covers have two main functions and you listed one, the other is to prevent NDs. They're very cheap and weigh nothing. I run them on both of my rifles.

Painting rifles serves a purpose other than just aesthetically/for fun.
Absolutely, the purpose is camouflage through silhouette reduction, but the threshold of "I'll paint this and it'll look cool" vs "I'm buying killflashes for my optics for the pending collapse of civilization" is somewhat different.

I'm glad you can give him feedback!
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Absolutely, the purpose is camouflage through silhouette reduction, but the threshold of "I'll paint this and it'll look cool" vs "I'm buying killflashes for my optics for the pending collapse of civilization" is somewhat different.

I'm glad you can give him feedback!
Then let's spread awareness and close the gap on those numbers to be better prepared for when the leftists (including the one ITT) get their way and come after us hehe.
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I run two of their Light Caps and just got a Scope Cap Pro for my ATACR (which is essentially a hex cap for magnified optics). Their products are great and they're doing some cool stuff. While their prices are pretty high for what you're actually getting, they're relatively cheap and work really well.



I mentioned this just a few days ago, but anyone with an AR that is shooting beyond 25m and/or shooting with any type of kit is doing so to train for some type of SHTF scenario, for lack of a better term. I think we can all agree on that? That being said, preventing glint is simply one aspect of training for those type of combat scenarios.

I recently put an ARD from OHC on my ATACR for that application. If I'm wearing kit and using my rifle in some type of SHTF scenario, much of what I'll be doing will likely be observing. ARDs are big for that.


For how big OHC has gotten, I don't think they're nearly as niche/small as you think.

Light covers have two main functions and you listed one, the other is to prevent NDs. They're very cheap and weigh nothing. I run them on both of my rifles.

Painting rifles serves a purpose other than just aesthetically/for fun.
solid review and 100% correct. Thanks bruh. Agreed they are a bit pricey for what you get (but seem to do what it's made for pretty well)…..let us know how you like the Scope Cap Pro.

Do you see/have to look through the hex pattern at all when looking through any optic or reddot? Or does it blend in to the eye and essentially vanish. I've seen pics of both…..curious how it is IRL
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That’s classified. Why do you need a silencer, sir?


Question still stands…anyone use and like these on their optics and lights?
On a 1x it's bigly detrimental. On an optic with some magnification the distortion effect isn't as pronounced.
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What was last year?

Two years ago I got a D60 for $67 and pmag 30's in 5.56 for $6
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solid review and 100% correct. Thanks bruh. Agreed they are a bit pricey for what you get (but seem to do what it's made for pretty well)…..let us know how you like the Scope Cap Pro.

Do you see/have to look through the hex pattern at all when looking through any optic or reddot? Or does it blend in to the eye and essentially vanish. I've seen pics of both…..curious how it is IRL
I only have one day on the Scope Cap Pro so far since I just got it in. It's awesome. Functions like any other ARD but with the added benefit of having the lens cap built in and it being removable in a split second (via the shock cord). No other ARD that I'm aware of is removable in the same way. All others are screwed or bolted on. As Nugz mentioned above, it's more noticeable on 1x (but still not bad). If you're shooting on 1x, having the ability to remove it is awesome. At 1x magnification, I don't see a scenario where you'd be worried about scope glint anyway, so it's a win-win.
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What was last year?

Two years ago I got a D60 for $67 and pmag 30's in 5.56 for $6
I don't remember anything except not buying anything last year.

No mags on sale this year. They do have Blazer and Federal 115 gr 9mm for about 22 cpr.

And a few off brands of 9mm and 5.56 for pretty cheap.
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question brahs, say i want to buy this SBR that doesn't have a stock on it. this would just be a form 1 from ATF (which is a month i heard) and then once I get it from the FFL I can slap any kind of stock and accessories onto it?

The other option is buying an entire SBR but id need a form 4 with a much longer wait

to me, this is the quickest way to get an SBR. I'm in MI.

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or from what I see on gunbroker I can buy a DD M18 upper, do the form 1 and then buy the lower.

Any other good sites to look at prices?
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