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09-19-2023, 07:53 PM
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09-20-2023, 03:50 AM
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I only have one day on the Scope Cap Pro so far since I just got it in. It's awesome. Functions like any other ARD but with the added benefit of having the lens cap built in and it being removable in a split second (via the shock cord). No other ARD that I'm aware of is removable in the same way. All others are screwed or bolted on. As Nugz mentioned above, it's more noticeable on 1x (but still not bad). If you're shooting on 1x, having the ability to remove it is awesome. At 1x magnification, I don't see a scenario where you'd be worried about scope glint anyway, so it's a win-win.
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On a 1x it's bigly detrimental. On an optic with some magnification the distortion effect isn't as pronounced.
invisible on a 4x?
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09-20-2023, 03:54 AM
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or from what I see on gunbroker I can buy a DD M18 upper, do the form 1 and then buy the lower.

Any other good sites to look at prices?
you register the lower…

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09-20-2023, 07:47 AM
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invisible on a 4x?
At 4x it will just make your unit dimmer. It will not be visible. You can test this by putting partof your pinky over part of the lens andzooming. You'll literally watch it blur and disappear
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09-20-2023, 09:44 AM
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question brahs, say i want to buy this SBR that doesn't have a stock on it. this would just be a form 1 from ATF (which is a month i heard) and then once I get it from the FFL I can slap any kind of stock and accessories onto it?

The other option is buying an entire SBR but id need a form 4 with a much longer wait

to me, this is the quickest way to get an SBR. I'm in MI.

That is basically what I did with my mk18.

Bought it as a pistol, form 1'd it and wala.
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09-20-2023, 09:45 AM
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or from what I see on gunbroker I can buy a DD M18 upper, do the form 1 and then buy the lower.

Any other good sites to look at prices?
If doing it this way you need to buy the lower first.
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09-20-2023, 10:50 AM
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or from what I see on gunbroker I can buy a DD M18 upper, do the form 1 and then buy the lower.

Any other good sites to look at prices?
Still eyeing an AR less than 11.5 inches? SMH
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09-20-2023, 11:12 AM
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or from what I see on gunbroker I can buy a DD M18 upper, do the form 1 and then buy the lower.

Any other good sites to look at prices?
Cloud world rules: Constructive possesion/intent upon owning a sub 16" upper without a lower you can put it on that results in something other than an SBR.

Just…sayin'…that could potentially be a thing.

But, the way to do that is to buy the stripped/other lower, then submit the form 1 and engrave the lower, and once the stamp comes back, put a stock on the lower and put the short upper on the lower at which point you have constructed a registered SBR
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09-20-2023, 07:32 PM
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you register the lower…

f'n avi on vacation again. This chit site I swear
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If doing it this way you need to buy the lower first.
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Cloud world rules: Constructive possesion/intent upon owning a sub 16" upper without a lower you can put it on that results in something other than an SBR.

Just…sayin'…that could potentially be a thing.

But, the way to do that is to buy the stripped/other lower, then submit the form 1 and engrave the lower, and once the stamp comes back, put a stock on the lower and put the short upper on the lower at which point you have constructed a registered SBR
I see… I thought you buy and register the upper first and then buy whatever lower after its released to you from ffl… this chit is confusing and its dumb as hell why we have to do this to begin with. im with people when they say abolish the ATF ded fkn srs….


Originally Posted By RThoe⏩
Still eyeing an AR less than 11.5 inches? SMH

that pic was just an example, while i was watching this vid below (very good vid by the way) the Irishman at the beginning mentioned 10.3'' so I paused the vid and went to look at some and made that post here. Then continuted vid, about a minute later he said that they all moved to 11.5'' / 14.5'' after there was a bunch of ballistic testing done. just like misc was saying

im looking for 11.5'' most likely for sure, either a KAC upper or DDMK18. But I also would like a smaller carry gun (currently G19 gen4) and im leaning towards getting the p365x macro tacops but not decided to what to buy first.

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09-20-2023, 07:36 PM
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I see… I thought you buy and register the upper first and then buy whatever lower after its released to you from ffl… this chit is confusing and its dumb as hell why we have to do this to begin with. im with people when they say abolish the ATF ded fkn srs….
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I always thought this chit was bass akwards. I mean why aren’t you registering the business end (upper). That’s the freakin part we are measuring to consider it an SBR or not. The lower could be attached to anything. Makes no sense. That in a nutshell is the Gov.
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09-20-2023, 07:50 PM
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Has the "buy an upper, put it on a pistol lower, submit a form 1, then move the upper to the new lower" days passed?
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09-21-2023, 10:18 AM
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I see… I thought you buy and register the upper first and then buy whatever lower after its released to you from ffl… this chit is confusing and its dumb as hell why we have to do this to begin with. im with people when they say abolish the ATF ded fkn srs….
You've done zero research then.

You need to register the serialized lower. Uppers are not registered.
However, what ever length you declare on the form 1 you'll always have to have.

My mk18 pistol was registered as a 10.3". Legally I'll always have to possess a 10.3", or nothing.

Nobody @ me about this. I don't care to discuss. Go look it up yourself.
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09-21-2023, 10:19 AM
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I see… I thought you buy and register the upper first and then buy whatever lower after its released to you from ffl… this chit is confusing and its dumb as hell why we have to do this to begin with. im with people when they say abolish the ATF ded fkn srs….

Uppers (for an AR type rifle) are not themselves firearms, are not serialized, and are not registered for anything. The lower receiver of an AR is the firearm
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09-21-2023, 12:24 PM
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You've done zero research then.

You need to register the serialized lower. Uppers are not registered.
However, what ever length you declare on the form 1 you'll always have to have.

My mk18 pistol was registered as a 10.3". Legally I'll always have to possess a 10.3", or nothing.

Nobody @ me about this. I don't care to discuss. Go look it up yourself.
Gee who hurt you bro?
I have done research, but the wording is confusing as the other poster said. I've watched a ton of videos and none of them explain it that way.
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09-21-2023, 12:51 PM
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Gee who hurt you bro?
I have done research, but the wording is confusing as the other poster said. I've watched a ton of videos and none of them explain it that way.
I've discussed this with too many uppity noobs here and in real life.
I'm not wasting my time. I'm not pissed, I'm just being frank.
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09-21-2023, 05:35 PM
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My mk18 pistol was registered as a 10.3". Legally I'll always have to possess a 10.3", or nothing.
You can write to the ATF to document a configuration change. No additional stamp required. You can also document additional configurations, although that's not required as far as I can tell.
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09-22-2023, 04:15 AM
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You can write to the ATF to document a configuration change. No additional stamp required. You can also document additional configurations, although that's not required as far as I can tell.
Lots of little things like this. It's impractical to try to cover everything concisely here. People need to do their own research.
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09-22-2023, 04:24 AM
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I keep life simple. I went to a gun store, bought a 1911, and walked out with it. No tax stamp. No wait past ~20 minutes.

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I keep life simple. I went to a gun store, bought a 1911, and walked out with it. No tax stamp. No wait past ~20 minutes.

GOBBLESS.
You got some 11 round magazines while you we…wait, CT…nevermind
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You got some 11 round magazines while you we…wait, CT…nevermind
Ed needs to update his location. I think that was at least two moves ago, lol. Nevada now, right?
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Any IL Brahs still legal? Got a dd rifle and 4 lowers need someone to get at ffl
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09-22-2023, 11:56 PM
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Just picked up a Sig Sauer P365X Macro Tacops, das it mane! Will be new carry gun.

Also about to buy a HOLOSUN 507K.. can't decide between green or red but prolly goin red. It'll fit directly onto it. Wanted Trijicon RMR but a lot of ppl say they like the HOLOSUN with the P365.. and there's another mounting plate I need to fit that on and would need to take the rear sight off.

And a Trex sidecar holster

edit… decided to get the HOLOSUN EPS Carry MRS 2 MOA Dot & 32 MOA Circle Reflex Pistol Sight for my P365X macro


The SBR is on hold until I get all this chit btw but need a new carry gun for now ded fkn srs…
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Ed needs to update his location. I think that was at least two moves ago, lol. Nevada now, right?
Yessir. I don't think we can change our location though. At least in our avi info.

Originally Posted By nn586⏩
Just picked up a Sig Sauer P365X Macro Tacops, das it mane! Will be new carry gun.

Also about to buy a HOLOSUN 507K.. can't decide between green or red but prolly goin red. It'll fit directly onto it. Wanted Trijicon RMR but a lot of ppl say they like the HOLOSUN with the P365.. and there's another mounting plate I need to fit that on and would need to take the rear sight off.

And a Trex sidecar holster

edit… decided to get the HOLOSUN EPS Carry MRS 2 MOA Dot & 32 MOA Circle Reflex Pistol Sight for my P365X macro


The SBR is on hold until I get all this chit btw but need a new carry gun for now ded fkn srs…
Holosun seems to be the best cost effective choice for a pistol. Cheaper ones tend to pack features and don't seem to be as reliable, and anything more expensive doesn't really seem to offer much more value or features.
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Btw, dude, I was totally joking about telling you to stfu. RgrJNC used to be a member in MFC with a different name (CdCox or some **** like that). The dude became a radical leftist and now votes for democrats, including Biden, and generally sucks. I assumed everyone knew who he was and that's why I made that comment when you wished he had a good day or whatever lol.
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Well he's like 5'3" so I'm not surprised he's an angry leftist
5'3 is awfully generous.
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Any IL Brahs still legal? Got a dd rifle and 4 lowers need someone to get at ffl
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Ok brahs new pistol came in today, installed that and the sight.
Still need to hit the range to zero it in and possibly get new screws / figure out how to cowitness the sights with the optic cause right now it doesn't appear that they line up


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