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post 1545883921 03-08-2018, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted By omnip0tent
Some of us would lose our jobs, freak people out etc... If I bent over to do some **** in my office and my gun showed under my polo id probably get fired. I also NEED to pay my bills. If I can discreetly carry in my bag. Its better than leaving it at home.
I can give you that... Just saying the back pack variant seems to be one of the least accessible options.
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Originally Posted By Austanian
I can give you that... Just saying the back pack variant seems to be one of the least accessible options.
It is. I hope daily that some nut job doesn't begin to shoot up the office while I'm strolling the halls. But I spent 95% of my time within arms length of my bag. The other 5%....jesus take the wheel
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post 1545884331 03-08-2018, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted By Austanian
What is the point of having an inaccessible CC?

I mean if you wore some sort of satchel I could see it being like purse carry.
Eh, in some cases a semi difficult to get to firearm can be better than no firearm at all. In your bag is still useful against a workplace violence situation or to/from your car.
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Originally Posted By SpeedCheeser
Eh, in some cases a semi difficult to get to firearm can be better than no firearm at all. In your bag is still useful against a workplace violence situation or to/from your car.
It is more the To/From your car situation I question. Would be curious to see the time difference between laptop bag and back pack.
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Originally Posted By Austanian
It is more the To/From your car situation I question. Would be curious to see the time difference between laptop bag and back pack.
I'd assume that if you were carrying in a backpack you probably wouldn't carry it like a backpack. Hang it in a way that is more accessible.
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Originally Posted By Austanian
And the fact most school districts will auto-ban it... Completely ruins the purpose.

I can live with the "Extra training" portion, but it will never come into play.
Requiring a specific training program geared towards teachers wouldn't really bother me. But yeah, it's as good as still banned in most districts.
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Originally Posted By Austanian
What is the point of having an inaccessible CC?

I mean if you wore some sort of satchel I could see it being like purse carry.
Well with a desk job you're going to be sitting right next to it all day outside of maybe having to go to a meeting. Drawing from ankle carry is slow as **** and would be much easier to get caught, not going to be a ton of difference between that and reaching under your desk and unzipping a compartment. On the remote possibility there is a workplace shooting, the chances are extremely low you're going to be the first one down and not have the chance to get it out.
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Hey everybody, i just got my foid card and have been to the range a few times. Im looking to get my fist gun and think ive narrowed it down to 5. I want to use it for range/home defense/possible ccw. What would you choose out of the following and why?
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Originally Posted By MEGATHICC
Hey everybody, i just got my foid card and have been to the range a few times. Im looking to get my fist gun and think ive narrowed it down to 5. I want to use it for range/home defense/possible ccw. What would you choose out of the following and why?
-sig p365
-glock 19/26
-fn fns9c
-hk vp9sk
-ruger lcr
If I were doing it, I would get the HK. I simply like it the most (full disclosure, I'm basing this on my experience with the full size VP9, but from what I understand they're practically identical other than size). The LCR I could maybe see as a back up or once in a while pocket gun, but I wouldn't personally want it as a primary. I don't really care for Glocks. Nothing wrong with them and they're super reliable, so if you like them you can't go wrong with them. If you didn't go HK, I'd probably go here. They just aren't really for me. I haven't shot the FN so I can't really speak on it. The P365 is still new and untested on a large scale, and saw some concerns in early testing, so it wouldn't be something I trusted right away.

Hope that helps.
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post 1545885881 03-08-2018, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted By ctprelude
Well with a desk job you're going to be sitting right next to it all day outside of maybe having to go to a meeting. Drawing from ankle carry is slow as **** and would be much easier to get caught, not going to be a ton of difference between that and reaching under your desk and unzipping a compartment. On the remote possibility there is a workplace shooting, the chances are extremely low you're going to be the first one down and not have the chance to get it out.
Even with something as tiny as a Microcompact RUGER LCP II in 380 auto? I don't think an ankle holster would be visible at all. Hell worst case scenario you pocket carry it with the pocket holster it comes with
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Originally Posted By Meatie
Even with something as tiny as a Microcompact RUGER LCP II in 380 auto? I don't think an ankle holster would be visible at all. Hell worst case scenario you pocket carry it with the pocket holster it comes with
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Today was one of those days where you're driving to the gym but do drive through at BK instead. Had the preworkout already and was just NOPE'ing it, tired, achy, etc. So had to do BK like speedchaster always reccomeneds. That BK9 head. did 16 of the cheesy tots (hng they are good) and 3 chicken mcnuggem sandwhiches and a large orange FANTA
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Originally Posted By Meatie
Today was one of those days where you're driving to the gym but do drive through at BK instead. Had the preworkout already and was just NOPE'ing it, tired, achy, etc. So had to do BK like speedchaster always reccomeneds. That BK9 head. did 16 of the cheesy tots (hng they are good) and 3 chicken mcnuggem sandwhiches and a large orange FANTA
But you didn't even get one of their FLAME BROILEDTMburgers! Y u do this?
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post 1545887231 03-08-2018, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted By Meatie
Today was one of those days where you're driving to the gym but do drive through at BK instead. Had the preworkout already and was just NOPE'ing it, tired, achy, etc. So had to do BK like speedchaster always reccomeneds. That BK9 head. did 16 of the cheesy tots (hng they are good) and 3 chicken mcnuggem sandwhiches and a large orange FANTA
Leaving work in 10-15 minutes or so... trying to decide if I want to go the gym. I'm sore af for some reason right now. Almost everything. Except my hands and chest of all things. Might take today off.
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Originally Posted By Raxys
Leaving work in 10-15 minutes or so... trying to decide if I want to go the gym. I'm sore af for some reason right now. Almost everything. Except my hands and chest of all things. Might take today off.
you know the right answer isdrive thru meal
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Originally Posted By Meatie
you know the right answer isdrive thru meal
this is a good possibility - I have to pick up my daughter from skating rink at 5, may just grab something on the way home.
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Haven’t been to the range in like 2 weeks. Don’t have the energy to do anything anymore. Brb wanna go to the range? Have to wonder if dealing with all the stares and sh*t is even worth it. Can’t stand that sh*t
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Originally Posted By omnip0tent
Some of us would lose our jobs, freak people out etc... If I bent over to do some **** in my office and my gun showed under my polo id probably get fired. I also NEED to pay my bills. If I can discreetly carry in my bag. Its better than leaving it at home.
You can carry something on your person without printing.

You think printing could get you in trouble? Wait till somebody's kid kills themselves because the planets aligned and they got to your off body carry gun.

Carry a Shield or G43 AIWB or Smartcarry or belly band or ankle
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Have to wonder if dealing with all the stares and sh*t is even worth it.
Of course it is.
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Originally Posted By Meatie
Today was one of those days where you're driving to the gym but do drive through at BK instead. Had the preworkout already and was just NOPE'ing it, tired, achy, etc. So had to do BK like speedchaster always reccomeneds. That BK9 head. did 16 of the cheesy tots (hng they are good) and 3 chicken mcnuggem sandwhiches and a large orange FANTA
I’ve had this issue lately in the gym where I get like 30-40 minutes in and just lose all fukin motivation. Monday I just sat on a bench for like 6-7 minutes contemplating leaving.
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Originally Posted By Farley1324
You can carry something on your person without printing.

You think printing could get you in trouble? Wait till somebody's kid kills themselves because the planets aligned and they got to your off body carry gun.

Carry a Shield or G43 AIWB or Smartcarry or belly band or ankle
I would be fired pretty much on the spot, no questions asked

not worth it to me
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Originally Posted By MEGATHICC
Hey everybody, i just got my foid card and have been to the range a few times. Im looking to get my fist gun and think ive narrowed it down to 5. I want to use it for range/home defense/possible ccw. What would you choose out of the following and why?
-sig p365
-glock 19/26
-fn fns9c
-hk vp9sk
-ruger lcr
I would not buy the P365, right now that just isn't smart IMO unless you already have multiple pistols including at least one that does the exact same things you would do with the P365, it's unproven and already had a wave of stopped production/fixes just like many of us predicted...and that may not be through (you'd still be a beta tester).

The LCR is quite different from the rest, obviously, based on all the advantages of a semi auto I'd write off the LCR.

Glock 19 is larger than all the rest there. If you carry concealed a G19 is the largest you should consider for a first/only. It's probably a good choice there but the others will all conceal better more easily under more clothing choices.

The Glocks are the most popular, the most common, the easiest to work on yourself (don't even consider detail stripping the VP series), and have by far the most available and well priced aftermarket (accessories, magazines, holsters, sights, you name it). The FNS 9C is a great little gun but doesn't have that much support, probably it has or will have the least support of everything on that list. The VP9SK IMO shoots the best, and will have adequate support...I'd choose between the Glocks and the VP9SK. IF you have shot both then just pick the one you would rather go shoot tomorrow. If you haven't, can you? Shooting a full size VP9 would be close enough to give you an idea on the SK.
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Originally Posted By rtm0004
I would be fired pretty much on the spot, no questions asked

not worth it to me
"You can carry something on your person without printing."
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Originally Posted By Farley1324
"You can carry something on your person without printing."
I like living in a house and eating 3 meals a day

I wear scrubs, I move around a lot, I interact with people constantly and am in close contact with direct supervisors daily

not risking my livelihood - there are zero other institutions like the one I work at in this city
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Originally Posted By Farley1324
"You can carry something on your person without printing."
Whats wrong with ankle carrying a RUGER LCP II? (upper calve carry actually) A ruger LCP II would be zero printing at all, and could do it comfortably 365 days of the year

Am I wright or am i wrong
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Originally Posted By rtm0004
I like living in a house and eating 3 meals a day

I wear scrubs, I move around a lot, I interact with people constantly and am in close contact with direct supervisors daily

not risking my livelihood - there are zero other institutions like the one I work at in this city
http://www.smartcarry.com/

But I am assuming at this point that you don't carry at all...because off body carry you cannot always be in control of is the most risky choice
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Originally Posted By Farley1324
http://www.smartcarry.com/

But I am assuming at this point that you don't carry at all...because off body carry you cannot always be in control of is the most risky choice
I do not carry into my work environment. There is a state law in place that allows you to keep a gun in your vehicle if there isn't a fence around the parking lot. But, I don't do that anymore either bc we've had a rash of vehicle robberies here

there's also a state law that would protect me if I was fired for carrying but even if I sued for wrongful termination and won, they aren't under any obligation to hire me back
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