I'll never understand how so many people can get so triggered over basic public health measures to deal with an airborne respiratory disease.

Ikr.. All they have to do is smile and say "Social Justice" and "black lives matter."



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No, the surge in Covid cases across the U.S. is not due to migrants or immigrants
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/...rants-rcna1656

Migrants Not Responsible for Latest COVID-19 Surge
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/10/sc...ovid-19-surge/

South Dakota Covid cases quintuple after Sturgis motorcycle rally
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...rally-n1277567

South Dakota’s Sturgis Motorcycle Rally: A ‘cautionary tale’ in the age of Covid-19
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/06/us/st...vid/index.html

The Sturgis Motorcycle Rally represents the perfect storm for a superspreader event across this region: a large gathering with no testing, no masks, and no vaccination requirements.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/sturgi...ent-looks-like

Ikr.. All they have to do is smile and say "Social Justice" and "black lives matter."



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No, the surge in Covid cases across the U.S. is not due to migrants or immigrants
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/...rants-rcna1656

Migrants Not Responsible for Latest COVID-19 Surge
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/10/sc...ovid-19-surge/

South Dakota Covid cases quintuple after Sturgis motorcycle rally
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...rally-n1277567

South Dakota’s Sturgis Motorcycle Rally: A ‘cautionary tale’ in the age of Covid-19
https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/06/us/st...vid/index.html

The Sturgis Motorcycle Rally represents the perfect storm for a superspreader event across this region: a large gathering with no testing, no masks, and no vaccination requirements.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/sturgi...ent-looks-like

Suggesting page 12 precedes page 11 is considered good faith?

I never suggested page 12 precedes page 11; I never quoted to/referenced your post on page 11 until you randomly brought it up of nowhere, ie you moving the goal posts to bring it up - and now referring back to it again pointlessly - is exactly what I've accused you of doing. That is, arguing in bad faith.

JLC =JustLyingCasually, all because you can't bear to accept thefact that, yes, Omicron'sbeen recognisedas beingless severe than Delta.

Evidence of heart attacks in young people previously infected with covid still seems relevant to the thread topic.

I guess ignoring that is considered good faith

They are abnormal as we can see daily.
It was never a big ask.

Your own story bud. That and the 14 minute thanksgiving spent in an entryway lol.

Indeed funny, in the most pathetic of ways

Are you fully vaxxed and boosted? "It was never a big ask".

Yeah, I'd rather die than live like you.

Evidence of heart attacks in young people previously infected with covid still seems relevant to the thread topic.

I guess ignoring that is considered good faith

Young people, who also just so happen to be susceptible to those types of issues from the injections. You point to that while using a study that doesn’t differentiate between those who receive the injection and those who didn’t. So again…you want us to believe that a virus which is now weaker than ever just so happens to, for some reason, result in more heart problems than more serious variants(glad you finally admitted that it’s less serious) and just so happens to do so in the demographic most susceptible to adverse events involving the heart from the injection.



I guess we’ll just have to wait a few years for you to realize we are right and you are wrong. We’re used to it by now.

Infected vs uninfected, yeah? Do you think vaccination status would be imbalanced across groups? If so, in which direction? Do you feel the model didn't account for possible imbalance?

Are you just generally concerned with the use of regression, again?

I love the collective pronoun

I don't want you to believe anything. I shared a study that looked at AMI. The authors shared the data set.

Can you share some evidence or data regarding susceptibility of young people to AMI from the injections?



They even used unsupervised approaches.

We’ve already provided tons of evidence that the injections damage the heart. We’ve already shown that young people are more likely to experience those adverse events. I’ve even provided proof that the myocarditis caused by injections can relapse months later. Feel free to dance around the topic by pointing out that AMI is different from myocarditis or try to suggest the two can’t possibly be linked. Lots of people here realize there is likely a very direct link between the two.



Again, perhaps in a few years you’ll catch up….that seems to be the general timeframe for you.

Evidence of heart attacks in young people previously infected with covid still seems relevant to the thread topic.

I guess ignoring that is considered good faith

It's neither good-faith nor bad-faith to ignore it since it's never what my discussion with you was about, so it was irrelevant. It's actually bad-faith to bring it up so as to imply that I'm wilfully ignoring the issue because, again, I was never discusing it.

To remind you, I quoted you, from pg 12, rerring to Omicron deaths by heart-attack as being similar to Delta.

I've posted several links that show how Omicron was less severe than Delta which - for a moment - you actually accepted.

You bringing up previous posts and other lines of discussions is exactly what I've accused it of being - bad faith - because you're shifting to the goalposts to a point of conversation I never touched on or got involved in, in an effort to avoid accepting that Omicron was less severe than Delta.

My line of discussion with you in this thread has been as to the severity of omicron vs delta, and you keep trying to shift the goal-posts away (ie, argue in bad faith) because you can't bear to accept thefact that, yes, Omicron'sbeen recognisedas beingless severe than Delta.

lmao I can't even imagine how you'd react in the event of a bioweapon attack. Grow some balls, Dave.

Association Between Vaccination and Acute Myocardial Infarction and Ischemic Stroke After COVID-19 Infection

"Results
Of 592 719 patients with COVID-19 during the study period, 231 037 patients were included, of whom 62 727 were never vaccinated and 168 310 were fully vaccinated. Patients who were fully vaccinated were older and had more comorbidities (Table 1). In contrast, severe or critical COVID-19 was less common in the fully vaccinated group. The differences in age and comorbidities were reduced after weighting, while the severity of COVID-19 became less balanced. The median follow-up duration starting 30 days after COVID-19 was 90 days in the unvaccinated group and 84 days in the fully vaccinated group.

Conclusion
The composite outcome occurred in 31 unvaccinated patients and 74 fully vaccinated patients, with an incidence of 6.18 vs 5.49 per 1 000 000 person-days (Table 2). The adjusted risk was significantly lower in the fully vaccinated group (adjusted hazard ratio [aHR], 0.42; 95% CI, 0.29-0.62). The adjusted risk was significantly lower in fully vaccinated patients for both AMI (aHR, 0.48; 95% CI, 0.25-0.94) and ischemic stroke (aHR, 0.40; 95% CI, 0.26-0.63). A lower risk for outcome events in fully vaccinated patients was observed in all subgroups, although some did not reach statistical significance, including those with severe or critical infection"

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jam...rticle/2794753

sure thing benny

Exclusion criteria included (1)outcome events less than 3 months before COVID-19 diagnosis;(2) reinfection; (3) hospitalization for COVID-19 for 30 or more days and, among vaccinated patients, (4) single dose of vaccine; and (5) COVID-19 diagnosis before or within 7 days after the second vaccination.



Hmmm, wonder why they decided to exclude those cases from the study.


BRB - get injection

BRB- suffer heart problems

BRB - test positive for Covid at any point in the next 89 days(which would be reasonably likely due to hospital stay)

BRB - sorry, we can’t include you in the numbers for the study

No, sir I don't like it.

Nicely controlled, imo. MI and stroke. 'tis you trying to conflate all cardiac issues (in good faith?).

Just lol

Keep trying, maybe in a few years you’ll understand.

...to which the study I shared directly related

It's obviously intellectually honest and in good faith to instead pivot to a study I shared two years ago and also create a position for me that's easier to attack. [sarcasm]

Just lol

The post I quoted was you posting a study about similar heart-attack deaths between Delta/Omicron to Dave22Reborn when he was bringing up how much more mild Omicron was to Delta. That's what I went on to discuss. That's what all of my posts have been about.

By comparison....



^thatis intellectually dishonest and arguing in bad faith; I never pivoted to anything. I never created a position for you. You're trying to divert this line of discussion to be about something else because you know you're wrong about it.

I've been discussing from the get-go that Omicron is less severe than Delta. You don't want to admit this, so you keep trying to shift the goal-posts. All this because you can't bear to accept thefact that, yes, Omicron'sbeen recognisedas beingless severe than Delta.

A new strain known as JN.1 will cause many people to suffer from “reduced cardiac function,” according to the report.

“Japan’s top research institute Riken has now issued a warning in the new report, which states that the ACE2 receptors, which the coronavirus clings to within human cells, are ‘very common’ in the heart,” reports GB News.

“Even though conclusive clinical evidence that persistent SARS-CoV-2 infection is associated with declined cardiac function has not been reported so far, the proof-of-concept study of the possibility of SARS-CoV-2 persistent infection of the heart and the potential risk of opportunistic progression of heart failure should be validated by a three-dimensional human cardiac tissue model which would serve as the alarm bell for a global healthcare risk,” states the report.

Health officials suggested people should be wary of gathering for New Year’s Eve celebrations, warning, yet again, that hospitals would be at risk of being stretched to breaking point.

Despite everything we’ve learned about the association between COVID vaccines and serious heart problems, it appears they’re now trying to re-brand the heart problems as being caused by COVID itself.

Oh well, guess we better take another round of the “100 per cent safe and effective” then!

Once the new booster is rolled out, expect another spate of healthy, professional sports stars suddenly collapsing in the middle of the field as a result of…checks notes… the JN.1 COVID strain.

Respondents on X shockingly weren’t buying it.


https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/e...ilure-pandemic






Here we go again folks...Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

If you got the jab back in 2021, then by now it's effectiveness is completely out of your system.

Also, if someone still hasn't gotten the jab, why should they present day?

Again, if you have questions or concerns about the vaccines or covid, you should confer with your board certified MD doctor.

You should not

-blindly read substacks that make spurious accusations of global conspiracies and take them at face value.

-take health advice from political leaders or pundits.

-trust the current consensus of your favorite neonazi message board.

- only read peer reviewed or even preprint scientific literature that vaguely could be misconstrued to support your antivax views over the entire body of peer reviewed scientific literature that strongly supports vaccination.

-blindly believe your favorite pastor/televangelist that says vaccines are demon sperm.

The OP

It's obviously intellectually honest and in good faith to insteadpivot