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06-24-2021, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
I'd prob take profit above 50% on something like that. Odds aren't good that WFC is going to push ITM for you and its straight up move from the last couple days probably pushed premiums higher than they technically should be right now.

Realistically there will probably be a down day next week where you could probably get back at what you originally paid for the option if you really believed it is going to hit $50+ by mid July.
My gut feeling after watching banking stocks for two decades, and being a huge WFC bull, (it’s well documented and I was ridiculed as a “boomer” for being heavy on WFC in the low $30’s-mid $20’s) is that above $45 felt really rich for me in today’s market. WFC is not an options stock either. It’s a buy and hold and forget about kind of stock, only to be evaluated when it drops to see if it’s worth adding to, or in the possible black swan scenario that the banks like WFC are being replaced.
WFC is about 5% of my portfolio now and I’m happy to see it wobble around in the $40’s for quite sometime.

Btw personal portfolio is still about 85% PLTR
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06-24-2021, 08:53 AM
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ARK seems to be making a comeback. Bought a few more shares this week.
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06-24-2021, 08:55 AM
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I'm not sure about that. Some tech growth stocks are way up, but a lot are still down 30-40%+ from earlier in the year.

These are all still good buys right now:

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Always going to be some plays, just saying a decent majority of tech may pull back some in the next couple weeks. Nothing drastic imo. Currently trading cciv myself.

CCIV is almost to the point to where I want to start building a good position on my trading account (still have 30 shares at $17 that I’m just holding in my investment account. It’s a little risky stock but I think it will take off once/if they start producing.

I’m a market degen though.
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06-24-2021, 09:18 AM
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Does anyone know how it works when you are trading low volume options what order you get your fill in?

Lets say I am buying an option at $1 and there are 300 contracts trying to be bought as the "Bid". If I have 30 in there that are my buy orders when can I expect mine to be filled? Is it first come first serve so whoever had their buy offer sitting there longest gets filled first?
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06-24-2021, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
Does anyone know how it works when you are trading low volume options what order you get your fill in?

Lets say I am buying an option at $1 and there are 300 contracts trying to be bought as the "Bid". If I have 30 in there that are my buy orders when can I expect mine to be filled? Is it first come first serve so whoever had their buy offer sitting there longest gets filled first?
That depends on broker. Its should be first submitted.

Just up the buy limit above the $1 by like 1-2 cents you will get fill right away.

That being said unless its super far away.

I hate options with low volume and wide bid ask.

Of course if its far away and you're certain it will work than no issue.
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06-24-2021, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
That depends on broker. Its should be first submitted.

Just up the buy limit above the $1 by like 1-2 cents you will get fill right away.
I would.

But that was an example. I'm actually buying $25/contracts and lots of them so adding 2 cents makes it 8% more expensive lmao
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06-24-2021, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
I would.

But that was an example. I'm actually buying $25/contracts and lots of them so adding 2 cents makes it 8% more expensive lmao
give me scoop lmao

is it spac options?

frx?
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06-24-2021, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted By Carbonfibre⏩
give me scoop lmao

is it spac options?

frx?
lolz yeah Ipof Aug $10C

I'll prob get fuked but its fine
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06-24-2021, 09:58 AM
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Always going to be some plays, just saying a decent majority of tech may pull back some in the next couple weeks. Nothing drastic imo. Currently trading cciv myself.

CCIV is almost to the point to where I want to start building a good position on my trading account (still have 30 shares at $17 that I’m just holding in my investment account. It’s a little risky stock but I think it will take off once/if they start producing.


I’m a market degen though.
TDOC looking like a good buy too. Just picked up 48 shares.
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06-24-2021, 10:00 AM
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I'm not sure about that. Some tech growth stocks are way up, but a lot are still down 30-40%+ from earlier in the year.
These are all still good buys right now:
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fully agree on CCIV and SNOW not too shabby either
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06-24-2021, 10:02 AM
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Why is tesla ripping so hard?
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06-24-2021, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M⏩
Why is tesla ripping so hard?
someone started buying

no headline

was in huge wedge for while


market is rotating back to tech imo

wouldn't go balls deep since we have no idea if this is too good to be true or not






look at 1 month 3 month performance etc

tech probably got beaten to shiit


1 week



1 month






just look at arkk over $130 pretty much signaling that tech/growth is back


arrk pretty much holds only tech/growth could easily gauge is we rotated back to this


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06-24-2021, 10:12 AM
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Why is tesla ripping so hard?
Hedge funds coming for me. RIP

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06-24-2021, 10:22 AM
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Hedge funds coming for me. RIP

Would never bet on TSLA going down, not too long ago many people lost doing this
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06-24-2021, 10:27 AM
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Would never bet on TSLA going down, not too long ago many people lost doing this
TBF I opened it up when it was around $820 but should've closed out months ago. Only did 1 contract so kept holding on for max gainz lol
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06-24-2021, 10:43 AM
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Y'all are sleeping on the upside potential of VIAC.
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06-24-2021, 10:49 AM
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Y'all are sleeping on the upside potential of VIAC.
literally removed that from my watch list earlier today
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06-24-2021, 11:06 AM
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About to close on a refinance.



Any additional things I should know to ask besides the obvious?


Why would they include closing costs in the cost of the loan? I said I could pay closing costs with cash.
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06-24-2021, 11:11 AM
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About to close on a refinance.



Any additional things I should know to ask besides the obvious?


Why would they include closing costs in the cost of the loan? I said I could pay closing costs with cash.
Don't pay closing costs with cash right now. Interest rates are so low that you should roll as much as your possibly can into the loan (finance) and invest your cash. IF interest rates were 10%, then I'd say pay with cash, but the are like 3% max right now. Which is less than inflation.
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06-24-2021, 11:16 AM
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About to close on a refinance.

Any additional things I should know to ask besides the obvious?


Why would they include closing costs in the cost of the loan? I said I could pay closing costs with cash.
mine was $0 closing but I'd think you would have told them before you signed closing docs? You could always put the cash on the mortgage balance right after close as well…

edit: are you sure its not just the excrow amount? escrow from previous loan has to be refunded directly to you so they usually put the reserve amount onto the new loan…
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06-24-2021, 11:25 AM
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About to close on a refinance.



Any additional things I should know to ask besides the obvious?


Why would they include closing costs in the cost of the loan? I said I could pay closing costs with cash.
cause it is like "free" money

where can you get a loan for 10-20k when you only pay 2-3% interest? same reason people get HELOC instead of a credit card
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06-24-2021, 11:29 AM
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wishing i re-opened a new position with TSLA….all my last posts were pretty much how i was waiting for it to hit low 500s before loading back up, now it looks like it's about to take back off to who knows where…i last sold around 730 and 710, looking like i missed a good opportunity to get back in

AAPL and AMZN were nice to me this past week
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06-24-2021, 11:29 AM
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Don't pay closing costs with cash right now. Interest rates are so low that you should roll as much as your possibly can into the loan (finance) and invest your cash. IF interest rates were 10%, then I'd say pay with cash, but the are like 3% max right now. Which is less than inflation.
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06-24-2021, 11:32 AM
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All things considered, this is a pretty ironic statement TBH.
What? I asked for credibility in the form of all time net p&l because some guy didn't want to admit a mistake. You know, maybe he really could have been an expert and the market was just irrational?

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Quit crying and fist yourself.
I don't even have a problem with you and you're constantly trying to cancel me, who's crying again?
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06-24-2021, 11:53 AM
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About to close on a refinance.



Any additional things I should know to ask besides the obvious?


Why would they include closing costs in the cost of the loan? I said I could pay closing costs with cash.
Just finished my IRRRL paperwork today. There's the total closing costs that might look alarming but there's also the escrow closing costs which should make up the majority of the costs. All of which I added to the loan. I ended up adding around $6k to my loan, but like $4k of that is escrow. I ended up getting a credit of $43 and will miss at two monthly payments, which I might payback into the loan or just buy more stock. With interest rates so low, it's no big deal adding it to the loan. My payback period is under 36 months.

The key is looking at the origination costs of the loan and if they're charging any points, this should be in section A of the loan fee breakdown.
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06-24-2021, 12:11 PM
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Just finished my IRRRL paperwork today. There's the total closing costs that might look alarming but there's also the escrow closing costs which should make up the majority of the costs. All of which I added to the loan. I ended up adding around $6k to my loan, but like $4k of that is escrow. I ended up getting a credit of $43 and will miss at two monthly payments, which I might payback into the loan or just buy more stock. With interest rates so low, it's no big deal adding it to the loan. My payback period is under 36 months.

The key is looking at the origination costs of the loan and if they're charging any points, this should be in section A of the loan fee breakdown.
I'm not paying any extra into my mortgage. Just take the 2 month skip and put the extra money in the market. It's just not worth paying down the mortgage since rates are so low. Mine is 2.25%. I actually wish I pulled as much equity out as I could. Would have put it straight into the stock market and/or another house. But I don't want to risk my rate, pay to refi again, and I don't NEED the cash.
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06-24-2021, 12:12 PM
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What? I asked for credibility in the form of all time net p&l because some guy didn't want to admit a mistake. You know, maybe he really could have been an expert and the market was just irrational?

I don't even have a problem with you and you're constantly trying to cancel me, who's crying again?


Not even sure why you post here. All you do is whine. Add nothing to the actual discussions here either, and the only way you post positions is after you've closed them and secured a profit.
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06-24-2021, 12:17 PM
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I'm not paying any extra into my mortgage. Just take the 2 month skip and put the extra money in the market. It's just not worth paying down the mortgage since rates are so low. Mine is 2.25%. I actually wish I pulled as much equity out as I could. Would have put it straight into the stock market and/or another house. But I don't want to risk my rate, pay to refi again, and I don't NEED the cash.
I have the same thought process, but savings on the payment will likely go into the market. Also considered some cash out but simply don't need it right now and not sure the VA allows that on IRRRL. We'd also be buying at all-time highs. Likely moving in a few years, I can use the equity then, if I need it. A lot to think about. I think we're doing it right though.

I'm more than likely paying the minimum payment for the life of the loan. Hard to beat 2.25%, reduced payment by like $230/month.
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06-24-2021, 12:43 PM
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Appreciate the feedback fellas.


Just signed, and I have no idea why I didn’t think of rolling them in due to the interest rates right now, herp deep moment. But I did, and basically just got a 7k loan at 3%. Can always pay more into the principal.
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WKHS has a gap fill to $30
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