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03-14-2019, 01:54 PM
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Just ran a mock on draft network for chits n giggles.

Would be pretty happy to walk away with this group…don't see Sweat falling to 36 though.

2. Quinnen Williams
36. Montez Sweat
67. Andy Isabella
104. Michael Jackson
176. Lonnie Johnson Jr
212. David Sills V
I’ve seen a lot of mocks with Sweat going top 6 but honestly I can see him slipping quite a bit. He was productive in college but still feels like a project to me. Reminds me of Manny Lawson, more athlete than natural pass rusher. Second round seems unlikely though. Although there’s always a guy that slips way further than expected.

And you know Belicheck is jerking off thinking about drafting Isabella, right? Wouldn’t be surprised if he took him with their second rounder.
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03-14-2019, 01:58 PM
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49ers signing former Chargers’ CB Jason Verrett to a one-year, $3.6 million deal, per source. - via @AdamSchefter

love this signing. Once again…we're hoping these guys stay healthy but I loved Verrett coming out, dude is small but plays big very similar to Denzel Ward. Just has to stay healthy.

Hope we finally get some luck health wise this year because we have a lot of guys coming off injuries/with injury history who need to step up.
Forgot he existed til we showed interest.

He was a great player when he was healthy but it’s been so long that even if he gets healthy for us he might not be the same player. Worth the risk though. And honestly I’d be fine with Witherspoon as our starter if we have a pass rush.

We have a lot of injury concerns on our team, really hope our new medical staff is ready lol
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03-14-2019, 02:07 PM
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Assuming we’re wrapping up free agency, I’d say going into the draft our top needs in order are: WR, S, LB, P, CB, EDGE, OG/C

Even though we don’t really NEED an edge rusher in the draft now it’s so talented and deep that I still would love to have one even if Bosa goes 1.

Still don’t know what we’re gonna do at receiver if those top 5 receivers go before our pick 36.
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03-14-2019, 04:28 PM
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49ers have signed WR Jordan Matthews




Not bad. He had some good seasons under Chip Kelly. He went to Buffalo and has had some injuries but he could be serviceable. He has terrible hands from what I remember.
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03-14-2019, 07:52 PM
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49ers have signed WR Jordan Matthews




Not bad. He had some good seasons under Chip Kelly. He went to Buffalo and has had some injuries but he could be serviceable. He has terrible hands from what I remember.
He is Jerry’s cousin. His hands aren’t as good but far from awful. Curious if he can make the roster. I think it’s a great move. Has a chance to shine here.
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03-15-2019, 04:28 AM
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I'm really excited about our new additions. This is probably our biggest haul of free agents since the 94 season. We addressed most of our needs during free agency and we can be very flexible during the draft.

Personally I think we have a top 10 defense now with the addition of Ford and Alexander alone. Add in a healthy Verret and you might be looking at something special. Believe it or not we ranked #13 last year in yards allowed. If we had an average amount of turnovers we probably would have been in the top 10.

The only thing that is keeping me grounded is the fact that most big free agent signings don't pan out for whatever reason.
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03-15-2019, 07:36 AM
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I love this FA class. Obviously health has to be there but you can say that for any player in the league, if they're injured it doesn't matter how talented they are.

Right now the draft to me is 2 options.

1. Nick Bosa
2. Trade down for a haul

Would I be ok with Quinnen Williams? Absolutely he's a beast. Do I think that's the best thing for this team long term? No.

I was a little disturbed yesterday during Kyle/John's presser how they still see Sully outside in base and only inside on pass downs. I hope that's pre draft talk and that tune changes after the draft. It makes sense to say that because you're not tipping your hand one way or another.

They basically said Ford is our Leo, Sully/Armstead are big end so no need for Bosa.

I'm hoping we're smarter than that.

Getting and signing Dee Ford was a great move. I don't buy that he was just doing his contract year thing. The kid was a first round pick for a reason and had a 10 sack season 2 years ago. He got his opportunity and delivered. Super fast off the edge and great ability to force fumbles.

But he's on a 4 year deal. Who else do we have at DE?

Arik Armstead - big end, not a great rusher
Cassius Marsh - Leo, backup rusher if we're smart
Kentavius Street - big end, who knows what he can do
Ronald Blair - big end, not a Leo
Julian Taylor - big end, not a Leo
Solomon Thomas - shouldn't be a big end or leo

If Bosa is there at two IMO you take him and run.

That guy is a much better fit at Leo in base if you want to keep big guys out there to prevent run but also not totally suck if the other team passes then this lineup is the way to do it

Armstead, Buckner, Thomas, Bosa

Then on obvious pass downs

Bosa, Buckner, Thomas, Ford

Does that mean Ford comes off the field in base? Who knows…I'm hoping we're in pass down formation on D most of the time anyways. I do think he can play SAM in base to stay on there during early downs.

I did hear people thinking now Josh Allen makes more sense because he's a much better fit for Sam and it keeps Ford and Allen on the field at the same time regardless. But question is where is the bigger weakness - Ford in base at SAM as far as coverage or Ford in base at LEO as far as run D. I'm thinking the later.

Now if Giants want to get desperate and give us #6 and #17 for #2 it would be hard to say no.

Just thinking of that scenario I can see the following happening

1. Murray
2. Haskins
3. Bosa
4. Allen
5. ?
6. We're looking at Williams, Burns or Sweat…possibly DK Metcalf(i'd be pissed)

at 17 we should be looking at corner or safety. After the first round it will be slim pickings at both.

Perfect scenario would be lucking into Josh Allen and Byron Murphy but Brian Burns/Sweat would be more likely at 6.

Just did a mock with us picking 6/17 for chits and giggles.

6. Brian Burns
17. Byron Murphy
36. Deionte Thompson
67.Riley Ridley
104. Josh Oliver


Stopped there….that would be so fuking hnnnnng
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03-15-2019, 08:17 AM
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I'm really excited about our new additions. This is probably our biggest haul of free agents since the 94 season. We addressed most of our needs during free agency and we can be very flexible during the draft.

Personally I think we have a top 10 defense now with the addition of Ford and Alexander alone. Add in a healthy Verret and you might be looking at something special. Believe it or not we ranked #13 last year in yards allowed. If we had an average amount of turnovers we probably would have been in the top 10.

The only thing that is keeping me grounded is the fact that most big free agent signings don't pan out for whatever reason.
Do you remember, I think it was 2007, we got Nate Clements, Ashley Lelie and some other guys? We also drafted my all time favorite draft crush, Patrick Willis. I was so stoked that offseason.
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03-15-2019, 09:02 AM
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I love this FA class. Obviously health has to be there but you can say that for any player in the league, if they're injured it doesn't matter how talented they are.

Right now the draft to me is 2 options.

1. Nick Bosa
2. Trade down for a haul

Would I be ok with Quinnen Williams? Absolutely he's a beast. Do I think that's the best thing for this team long term? No.
Same.

I was a little disturbed yesterday during Kyle/John's presser how they still see Sully outside in base and only inside on pass downs. I hope that's pre draft talk and that tune changes after the draft. It makes sense to say that because you're not tipping your hand one way or another.

They basically said Ford is our Leo, Sully/Armstead are big end so no need for Bosa.

I'm hoping we're smarter than that.
I’m not too worried about what they’re saying right now. If we take Bosa in the draft they aren’t going to keep Thomas outside.

Getting and signing Dee Ford was a great move. I don't buy that he was just doing his contract year thing. The kid was a first round pick for a reason and had a 10 sack season 2 years ago. He got his opportunity and delivered. Super fast off the edge and great ability to force fumbles.

But he's on a 4 year deal. Who else do we have at DE?
Ford has gotten better every year, taking out the injured year. You don’t just happen to get the most forced turnovers because you decided to actually try for once. He’s explained how he’s gotten better and how he can still get even better. Not every pass rusher comes into the league and is Aldon Smith.

I did hear people thinking now Josh Allen makes more sense because he's a much better fit for Sam and it keeps Ford and Allen on the field at the same time regardless. But question is where is the bigger weakness - Ford in base at SAM as far as coverage or Ford in base at LEO as far as run D. I'm thinking the later.
I’m getting the feeling that we aren’t that high on Allen. I’ve heard little things here and there and it sounds like he’s not an option at 2.



Now if Giants want to get desperate and give us #6 and #17 for #2 it would be hard to say no.

Just thinking of that scenario I can see the following happening

1. Murray
2. Haskins
3. Bosa
4. Allen
5. ?
6. We're looking at Williams, Burns or Sweat…possibly DK Metcalf(i'd be pissed)

at 17 we should be looking at corner or safety. After the first round it will be slim pickings at both.

Perfect scenario would be lucking into Josh Allen and Byron Murphy but Brian Burns/Sweat would be more likely at 6.

Just did a mock with us picking 6/17 for chits and giggles.

6. Brian Burns
17. Byron Murphy
36. Deionte Thompson
67.Riley Ridley
104. Josh Oliver


Stopped there….that would be so fuking hnnnnng
If Bosa is gone I’m all in on trading back with the Giants or Raiders in exchange for multiple first rounders this year. So much defensive talent in this draft. I truly think it’s gonna be a real option too. Murray is getting so much hype that either Arizona takes him and we get Bosa or a team will be willing to trade up to ours or Arizona’s spot. Joel Klatt said the Murray hype is real. He was at his pro day and said he had an awesome pro day and the talk around the facility was that he’s going #1.
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03-15-2019, 09:18 AM
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Using The Draft Network I did two mock drafts and I loved them both.

1. Bosa, EDGE
2. AJ Brown, WR
3. Rock Ya-Sin, CB
4. Riley Ridley, WR

And this one I actually like more based off of team needs. I love AJ Brown and he wasn’t there at 36 in this one, but I really love safety Nasir Adderley. I think he’s gonna be a stud.

1. Bosa, EDGE
2. Nasir Adderley, S
3. Emanuel Hall, WR
4. Trayvon Mullen, CB (not sure how he made it here lol)
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03-15-2019, 02:25 PM
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Cassius Marsh has been released.

Also saves like 5 million right off the bat I think?




Mark Nzeocha, a SAM linebacker and core special teams player, signed a three-year deal to return, #49ers announce.



#49ers have signed back RB Raheem Mostert to a 3-year deal, according to his agent.


Good I like him a lot. Now the question is who is trade or cut? Still way to crowded in the backfield.
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03-15-2019, 02:42 PM
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I’m seriously confused by the Mostert signing. Like you said, interested to see what happens. Breida goes? Coleman is going to make the team and do well I believe.
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03-15-2019, 02:47 PM
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I’m seriously confused by the Mostert signing. Like you said, interested to see what happens. Breida goes? Coleman is going to make the team and do well I believe.
I know he plays special teams but at this point will not get a down as a back. Someone is going at some point but the question is who?
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03-15-2019, 05:33 PM
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Don't care that we released Marsh, prolly drafting EDGE and just signed Ford and resigned Nzeocha. I think we carry 4 backs and all of them active on gamedays tbh. Besides if one guy gets hurt we have insurance rather than having to have someone like Breida limp around every Sunday.
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03-15-2019, 09:31 PM
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I’m seriously confused by the Mostert signing. Like you said, interested to see what happens. Breida goes? Coleman is going to make the team and do well I believe.
Mostert is good on ST but damn, are we really gonna roster 4 RB’s and 1 FB?

Is the writing on the wall for McKinnon?
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03-16-2019, 09:04 AM
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lol at Marsh getting bounced after we picked up his option. Kilgore special.

Love this regime, they have to keep doing better in the draft but the way they approach things is awesome. We'll keep you until we need the cap space or we find someone better. Way it should be.
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03-16-2019, 09:16 AM
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lol at Marsh getting bounced after we picked up his option. Kilgore special.

Love this regime, they have to keep doing better in the draft but the way they approach things is awesome. We'll keep you until we need the cap space or we find someone better. Way it should be.
Last years draft of McGlinchey, Pettis and Warner looks really good. First draft looks like a fail but Kittle could end up a HOFer.
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03-16-2019, 10:21 AM
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Good breakdown of Nick Bosa by Brett Kollman:






Cliffs:

-Doesn’t have Myles Garrett upside
-While ceiling isn’t as high as Von Miller, his floor is extremely high
-Lacks the arm length and vertical leap you’d like to see in elite edge prospects
-He has and will continue to struggle against tall, long tackles
-Carbon copy of his brother Joey
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Good breakdown of Nick Bosa by Brett Kollman:






Cliffs:

-Doesn’t have Myles Garrett upside
-While ceiling isn’t as high as Von Miller, his floor is extremely high
-Lacks the arm length and vertical leap you’d like to see in elite edge prospects
-He has and will continue to struggle against tall, long tackles
-Carbon copy of his brother Joey
Would be great if he had 36 inch arms but plenty of elite rushers have arms his length and don’t have issues.

IMO Nick is stronger and faster than his brother and plays with better leverage.
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03-19-2019, 12:15 PM
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Mostert is good on ST but damn, are we really gonna roster 4 RB’s and 1 FB?

Is the writing on the wall for McKinnon?
i think with Jet and Coleman being such great receiving threats, we'll def keep all 4 rbs. they might not all suit up on game days so its possible Jet/Breida may draw the short straw depending on health on game days. Mostert is too valuable on ST to keep undressed. I think we'll just carry less WR/TE to make up for it.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/AaronWils...69847701905408



Cardinals GM and head coach flew to Oklahoma to meet with Kyler.





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Good breakdown of Nick Bosa by Brett Kollman:






Cliffs:

-Doesn’t have Myles Garrett upside
-While ceiling isn’t as high as Von Miller, his floor is extremely high
-Lacks the arm length and vertical leap you’d like to see in elite edge prospects
-He has and will continue to struggle against tall, long tackles
-Carbon copy of his brother Joey
btw I finally watched that video and i have issues with his breakdown of the Oklahoma game. I went back and watched it paying special attention to the so called obvious passing downs - 3rd/4th and long.

And the narrative that the Oklahoma OTs shut him down is garbage. There is also a clear difference in his first step when playing obvious pass rush downs vs during the game when it's early downs or short distance…considering Oklahoma does a lot in their offense and Baker is a mobile QB so you have to respect the run and can't just attack.

Here is the breakdown of those obvious pass downs in that game.

3rd and 7 - Mayfield rolls left as Bosa gets around the edge
3rd and 5 - Bosa gets around the edge but trips
3rd and 12 - beats his man, Mayfield gets the all out
3rd and 22 - don't know what happened cuz the camera at the snap was on the damn fans but Bosa had a key sack earlier in the series
3rd and 8 - get to the outside but ball is out very quick
3rd and 9 - plays inside double teamed

He also had a lot of nice plays in the run game…and yes some bad, like every other prospect. He also had a lot of extra attention going his way.

Not sure how anyone can look at this game and think he got shut down. If his shutting down means 3 tackles, 2 for a loss and a sack…sign me the fuk up.
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03-20-2019, 07:11 AM
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Now I'm forced to watch 2 games of Clay Matthews bitch ass a year. Hate that ****. Was bad enough watching him when we used to scrape the Packers with Harbs and Kap now we have to play him twice a year…
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Now I'm forced to watch 2 games of Clay Matthews bitch ass a year. Hate that ****. Was bad enough watching him when we used to scrape the Packers with Harbs and Kap now we have to play him twice a year…
I'm not worried about him. Dude is a shell of himself.

If we draft Bosa it will be the Rams who are chitting themselves playing us. Especially if Solomon Thomas can revive his career playing inside.
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I'm not worried about him. Dude is a shell of himself.

If we draft Bosa it will be the Rams who are chitting themselves playing us. Especially if Solomon Thomas can revive his career playing inside.

If we do get Bosa our DE group will be crowded with

Bosa
Thomas
Armstead
Blair
Taylor
Street

Some of them can play inside during passing downs but I think we'd at least try and trade one. Armstead and Thomas would get the most value.
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I'm not worried about him. Dude is a shell of himself.

If we draft Bosa it will be the Rams who are chitting themselves playing us. Especially if Solomon Thomas can revive his career playing inside.
I'm not worried about him I just ****ing hate that *******.
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If we do get Bosa our DE group will be crowded with

Bosa
Thomas
Armstead
Blair
Taylor
Street

Some of them can play inside during passing downs but I think we'd at least try and trade one. Armstead and Thomas would get the most value.
I think we’re gonna end up trading Armstead. He was our first noteable offseason move. Before we knew we were going to get Ford and before we know what we’re going to do with our first rounder. If we trade back he might stay on the roster depending on who we pick, but if we stay at 2 and get Bosa or Williams I think we try to move Armstead the next couple of days for a 5th rounder or so.
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Btw as of right now the only 3 options I would consider with the #2 is Bosa ideally, trade back if Bosa isn’t there or Williams. I think Josh Allen has some concerns that I wouldn’t want to risk at #2. As much as Williams isn’t the perfect fit for our roster needs, I think he’s going to be great and has a super high floor.

Trading back with the Raiders or Giants would be awesome too.

But, yeah, just give me Bosa and let’s move on to pick 36.
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If we do get Bosa our DE group will be crowded with

Bosa
Thomas
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Blair
Taylor
Street

Some of them can play inside during passing downs but I think we'd at least try and trade one. Armstead and Thomas would get the most value.
Thomas needs to play inside. Thomas, Armstead and Blair are more suited for inside. Street probably is as well. None of them are outside rushers who would stay on the outside in obvious pass downs.
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