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Thread: Just another incident of a cop shooting someones dog......

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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
right because there is a whole lot of negotiating with a charging dog, legit retards in this thread
take the baton out instead of a gun and outright killing it. strike if it really makes the first move....a dog barks doesnt mean it will come 100% lunging at u . oh yea it's an old dog and not even a real guard dog type....it's not even large by any means either!


god damn u fuking simple minded ignorant legit autistic fuktard.

fuk u pigs.
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Originally Posted By Zackad⏩
lmao watchout your comments bro

lol @ cesar milan vid. more proof that you don't need to shoot a dog to defuse a hostile situation. fukn lol



so...you are a cop? were a cop? are at work? were at work?

gjdm keeping your own bullsht straight
if you can figure out from my posts that i am a retired sergeant working private (which i clearly said) then it is no wonder you can comprehend any of my other posts
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
the 2nd cop didnt take out his gun and shoot until the dog charged him, you can hear the dog growl right before he was shot. Seriously are you guus even watching the video? The dog had almost bite the damn cop in the leg wtf is wrong with you plebs
Wasn't even close to biting the guy. They cut the scene where the cop said the dog scared him, so that's why he shot. He didn't say the dog was trying to bite him. He was then looking for the shell casing to pick it up.

They also forget the part where they are trying to charge the owner with “having a vicious animal at large”, and sent her a $200 bill before they’ll release the remains of the dog.


They knew they messed up, so they are trying the bureaucratic "justification."

At least the officer apologized later it seems from the reports.
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Originally Posted By SippinDaTech⏩
Although I agree with your logic, I don't think a shooting like what you described would be justified legally or even morally. If the public reacts so poorly to justified shootings like those involving Michael Brown, Trayvon Martin, etc where it was proven and the facts show the person was actively attempting to kill or greatly injure the officer/person, I can only imagine the reaction to an officer shooting someone who simply lunges at an officer while verbally threatening or yelling and not causing any physical harm.

I also am not saying the officer made the right decision. Personally I think he overreacted, BUT, in the scope of the law he will be protected since a dog's life is valued lower than that of a humans. I believe there should be repercussions for the officer, perhaps further training, but probably not being fired unless bad decision making is a recurrent issue with him.
Completely agree with you bro. As far as shootings like treyvon/brown, I feel like that comes down more to race issues than it does justification. Something tells me there are more of those cases with white victims, but no one cares because it makes sense, and wouldn't cause any media/societal uproar.

Also agreed that he overreacted, and it's unfortunate that he will likely receive no punishment whatsoever. or if he does, it won't really be a punishment.

I'm more upset about how ready he was to kill this dog while his partner clearly so little threat. The dog being shot, while tragic, is unfortunately and undeniably legal.
Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
right because there is a whole lot of negotiating with a charging dog, legit retards in this thread
right, because all charging dogs are aggressive and gunning to kill
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Originally Posted By EternaLovE⏩
take the baton out instead of a gun and outright killing it. strike if it really makes the first move....a dog barks doesnt mean it will come 100% lunging at u . oh yea it's an old dog and not even a real guard dog type....it's not even large by any means either!


god damn u fuking simple minded ignorant legit autistic fuktard.
it was an 85lb german shepard pitbull mix that was almost lacked on his leg, yea grab your baton you fuqin moron. Hope a dog bites your dick off so you cant have offspring.
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Originally Posted By Zackad⏩
Completely agree with you bro. As far as shootings like treyvon/brown, I feel like that comes down more to race issues than it does justification. Something tells me there are more of those cases with white victims, but no one cares because it makes sense, and wouldn't cause any media/societal uproar.

Also agreed that he overreacted, and it's unfortunate that he will likely receive no punishment whatsoever. or if he does, it won't really be a punishment.

I'm more upset about how ready he was to kill this dog while his partner clearly so little threat. The dog being shot, while tragic, is unfortunately and undeniably legal.



right, because all charging dogs are aggressive and gunning to kill
death is not the only reason a cop,can use deadly force gof damn ive already been pver SBI is it that hard to comprehend?
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
it was an 85lb german shepard pitbull mix that was almost lacked on his leg, yea grab your baton you fuqin moron. Hope a dog bites your dick off so you cant have offspring.
oohh u scared little bitch. trigger happy bitch, better killl than a bite mark on me! no wonder u fuking pigs are hated on. u lot are a bunch of scared little pussies.

reaction time is non existant, dogs llike them woulld back off once u get a good wack on his head with a baton.

incredibly scared and ignorant fuking retired leo whos doing private chit now. pathetic.
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Originally Posted By GrimesSU⏩
Wasn't even close to biting the guy. They cut the scene where the cop said the dog scared him, so that's why he shot. He didn't say the dog was trying to bite him. He was then looking for the shell casing to pick it up.

They also forget the part where they are trying to charge the owner with having a vicious animal at large, and sent her a $200 bill before theyll release the remains of the dog.


They knew they messed up, so they are trying the bureaucratic "justification."
lmao...just no. You can see in the 2nd officers video he is about 6" from the cop before he shoots. The cop also didnt draw his gun until the dog charged. You guys keep reaching for bullchit straws is unbelievable, the evidence is literally right there in the video
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why didnt she just put her dog in the garage, backyard or in a room with the door closed before answering the door? thats what i always do before answering the door. i'm sure she knew her dog barks at people
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Originally Posted By EternaLovE⏩
oohh u scared little bitch. trigger happy bitch, better killl than a bite mark on me! no wonder u fuking pigs are hated on. u lot are a bunch of scared little pussies.

reaction time is non existant, dogs llike them woulld back off once u get a good wack on his head with a baton.

incredibly scared and ignorant fuking retired leo whos doing private chit now. pathetic.


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Originally Posted By blank98⏩
This...

What a ****ing disgrace. I haven't read the whole thread, did anything happen to the cop after this?
Nah entire thread is literally one sociopathic LEO getting absolutely trashed by loads of miscers. And one mod afraid to admit he's an LEO bc there's literally so much nonsense coming from said sociopathic LEO I'd be ashamed too.
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
lmao...just no. You can see in the 2nd officers video he is about 6" from the cop before he shoots. The cop also didnt draw his gun until the dog charged. You guys keep reaching for bullchit straws is unbelievable, the evidence is literally right there in the video
In the video, the guy draws right as the dog starts barking, when the first cop pulls out his baton (you can clearly see the slide and rear sight as he almost brought it up) not when the dog turns to him when it got out.

Also he should have realized the dog stopped before it even got close, showing it was not attacking. Animals don't stop a few feet from you before they attack.


He over-reacted, and from the reports, he knew it because he apologized for the shooting.
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Originally Posted By fraserj32⏩
I don't agree with this, if an animal was presenting serious threatening behavior. I think that shooting it is justified. Human life will always be valued over an animals. Random house dog who barks and might bite and inflict an injury that might amount to this..........





To me that isn't an ethical shooting.
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Originally Posted By Zackad⏩
Completely agree with you bro. As far as shootings like treyvon/brown, I feel like that comes down more to race issues than it does justification. Something tells me there are more of those cases with white victims, but no one cares because it makes sense, and wouldn't cause any media/societal uproar.

Also agreed that he overreacted, and it's unfortunate that he will likely receive no punishment whatsoever. or if he does, it won't really be a punishment.

I'm more upset about how ready he was to kill this dog while his partner clearly so little threat. The dog being shot, while tragic, is unfortunately and undeniably legal.



right, because all charging dogs are aggressive and gunning to kill
The officer's decision making is clearly sub-par which is worrisome given the line of work he's in. I'm no bootlicker by any means but do generally side with LE in most high profile fatal shootings, and you're exactly right it's due to the media and other powers that be attempting to make it a race issue.

My only concerns are the fact that LE seems to rarely face consequences (even small ones) in cases like this and it is part of the reason why the public (even those who support LE like myself) have lost some faith in the system recently. They are truly being treated above the law in some instances and seem to forget the customer service aspect of their position as opposed to acting like thugs. And to be clear, NOT ALL or even most officers do this, but they should be held to the highest of standards in all situations and the minority that abuse their power are giving a bad name for the entire profession.
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Originally Posted By GrimesSU⏩
In the video, the guy draws right as the dog comes out, not when the dog turns to him.

Also he should have realized the dog stopped before it even got close, showing it was not attacking. Animals don't stop a few feet from you before they attack.


He over-reacted, and from the reports, he knew it because he apologized for the shooting.
no he did, he drew out when the dog ran past the other officer, otheriwse the dog would have been shot way sooner than it was


Later, as the officer who shot the dog is looking for the shell casing, he can be heard telling another officer, “I was almost shooting my own damn feet, that thing was right at me. Scared the crap out of me.”

Read more here:http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/l...#storylink=cpy

no report of him apologizing and the dog was literally at his feet and he thought it would bite him. No matter how you want to spin it it is justified
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩


Anytime you want to come out of your grandmas basement im ready
I thought you wanted this to remain in the realm of logic. I have refuted some of your points with logical counters. But you would rather focus on the bait instead.
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
no he did, he drew out when the dog ran past the other officer, otheriwse the dog would have been shot way sooner than it was


Later, as the officer who shot the dog is looking for the shell casing, he can be heard telling another officer, “I was almost shooting my own damn feet, that thing was right at me. Scared the crap out of me.”

Read more here:http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/l...#storylink=cpy

no report of him apologizing and the dog was literally at his feet and he thought it would bite him. No matter how you want to spin it it is justified
In the video, the guy draws right as the dog starts barking, when the first cop pulls out his baton (you can clearly see the slide and rear sight as he almost brought it up), not when the dog turns to him when it got out.

'2:55 he pulls it out, rear sight and slide visible, while the first cop pulls out the baton'

'2:59 the dog runs out'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCbLlQzyGls



He went to his gun first before the dog even got out, instead of pulling his baton like the first cop. He was trigger happy.
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Originally Posted By Rayzor84⏩
Nah entire thread is literally one sociopathic LEO getting absolutely trashed by loads of miscers. And one mod afraid to admit he's an LEO bc there's literally so much nonsense coming from said sociopathic LEO I'd be ashamed too.
loads of miscers? its you and one other guy jerkin each other off with emotional non facts and blatantly misrepresenting the video
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Originally Posted By GrimesSU⏩
In the video, the guy draws right as the dog starts barking, when the first cop pulls out his baton (you can clearly see the slide and rear sight as he almost brought it up), not when the dog turns to him when it got out.
no he doesnt clearly you need to watch the video again
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
no he did, he drew out when the dog ran past the other officer, otheriwse the dog would have been shot way sooner than it was


Later, as the officer who shot the dog is looking for the shell casing, he can be heard telling another officer, I was almost shooting my own damn feet, that thing was right at me. Scared the crap out of me.

Read more here:http://www.idahostatesman.com/news/l...#storylink=cpy

no report of him apologizing and the dog was literally at his feet and he thought it would bite him. No matter how you want to spin it it is justified
LMAO get a load of this guy, scared to get bitten so better out right kill it! what happened to the baton option? yea fuk u pig.

how's that for being justified? first thing a pig kills a dog unjustified some way...gets fuking killed later by some kind of vigilante for their own brand of justice? yea i bet u are gonna disagree with that. some will agree to this kind of justice

thats what i thought u fuking ignorant bitch ass scum.
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
yo the non cops itt are delusional and stupid
so i went and skimmed your posts...nowhere did you say you were a retired sergeant, that I could find. and this post implies you are a cop.

GJDM keeping your bullsht straight
Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
because grabbing a 70lbs aggressive dogs collar is so easily done...

bottom line is the legal justification for the officer to use deadly force was justified whether you like it or not
lol @ this potato line

the legal justification (for the officer to use deadly force) was justified

the legal justification was justified

the legal justification was justified
Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
it was an 85lb german shepard pitbull mix that was almost lacked on his leg, yea grab your baton you fuqin moron. Hope a dog bites your dick off so you cant have offspring.
LOL...are you that much of a pussy you don't feel comfortable using a nightstick (a very common weapon used for crowd control) to fight off one 85lb dog? lol @ the gun being your first go to.
Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
death is not the only reason a cop,can use deadly force gof damn ive already been pver SBI is it that hard to comprehend?
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
no he doesnt clearly you need to watch the video again
You can clearly see it.

You want screenshots as proof?


There ya go.

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hawkeye is one fuking autistic fuk kunt.

hate pigs like him. absolute scumbags.
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Originally Posted By SippinDaTech⏩
The officer's decision making is clearly sub-par which is worrisome given the line of work he's in. I'm no bootlicker by any means but do generally side with LE in most high profile fatal shootings, and you're exactly right it's due to the media and other powers that be attempting to make it a race issue.

My only concerns are the fact that LE seems to rarely face consequences (even small ones) in cases like this and it is part of the reason why the public (even those who support LE like myself) have lost some faith in the system recently. They are truly being treated above the law in some instances and seem to forget the customer service aspect of their position as opposed to acting like thugs. And to be clear, NOT ALL or even most officers do this, but they should be held to the highest of standards in all situations and the minority that abuse their power are giving a bad name for the entire profession.
and if you avert your eyes upwards, dhawkeye, you can see a prefect example of a sensible person who is capable of forming their own thoughts and opinions, rather than blindly defending those who don't deserve it
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Originally Posted By dhawkeye1980⏩
loads of miscers? its you and one other guy jerkin each other off with emotional non facts and blatantly misrepresenting the video
You're still focusing on the bait and emotion that you said you didn't want to deal with and ignoring the logic that you said you would rather operate from.
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lmfao at people saying the dog wasnt chasing the cop trying to attack him

also fuq that first cop for just standing there
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Originally Posted By fraserj32⏩
You mean like this?

Fuk i would have shot that dog lmao! Semi srs
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Originally Posted By GrimesSU⏩
You can clearly see it.

You want screenshots as proof?


There ya go.

okay cool how does that make it unjustified then
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