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Originally Posted By terrorgunt
I started playing in 1988 and am set in my ways, son.Wasn't debating anchoring or not, just how it's done.
What specifically about "how it's done" are you talking about if you're not talking about anchoring and not talking about which finger to tap with?
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Originally Posted By z4v4
What specifically about "how it's done" are you talking about if you're not talking about anchoring and not talking about which finger to tap with?
this part:
then you anchor with yourright hand pinkyon the side on the neck
I get a lot more control using ring finger.
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Originally Posted By terrorgunt
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I get a lot more control using ring finger.
If you're an index tapper, then both the ring and pinky will be better used in tandem (I'd be surprised if you didn't use your pinky and had it flailing off in the air while the ring was planted), but the general point is to anchor, not get tied up in minutia about anchoring.
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Just tried some new picks... how there is only a few ppl using dunlop gator grip picks? Just tried one, it feels SO GOOD. Can't decide between them and the Ultex (1.14) ones. (Gator grip has a better feel/grip; Ultex has the best sound)

Definitely better than tortex ones for me.

Can't stand Jazz III...what a waste of ....plastic.


Am I alone?
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Originally Posted By GODself
Just tried some new picks... how there is only a few ppl using dunlop gator grip picks? Just tried one, it feels SO GOOD. Can't decide between them and the Ultex (1.14) ones. (Gator grip has the better feel/grip; Ultex has the better sound)

Definitely better than tortex ones for me.

Can't stand Jazz III...what a waste of ....plastic.


Am I alone?
I'm currently using Jazz 3 XL Max Grip picks. I used to use tortex but it trying to fix a technique issue where I hold the pick with too much thumb.

I end up having the pick sit in the middle of my thumb pad with the end of my thumb overshooting and getting in the way whenever I try to speed things up.

Having the grip there helps to remind me where to keep my thumb positioned.

I cant use larger picks after having used Jazz 3's for so long! Feels like I'm trying to pick with an oar!
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Ultex is the most dynamic pick I've used. It can be warm and it can be bright depending on the attack. Only downside is it's invisible when you drop it. Several times I've wanted to switch to Tortex for that reason but the tone isn't as good. Anyway Jazz III fan here. Regular size picks feel like holding a Dorito.

Just realized I've been playing the same pick for at least 2 years. 1.35mm.

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Originally Posted By Dominik
Ultex is the most dynamic pick I've used. It can be warm and it can be bright depending on the attack. Only downside is it's invisible when you drop it. Several times I've wanted to switch to Tortex for that reason but the tone isn't as good. Anyway Jazz III fan here. Regular size picks feel like holding a Dorito.

Just realized I've been playing the same pick for at least 2 years. 1.35mm.

Yeah, thats why I rlly liked the gator grip onesv(0,96 and 1,14) cuz they are smaller than tortex and bigger than jazz iii (way too small for me... I hit the strings with my fingers everytime).

But like you said, when we talk about tone, nothing can beat the ultex.

Grip and Accuracy: Gator Grip, tortex and ultex, jazz iii (for the reason i just said)

Tone: ultex, tortex, jazz l iii, gator grip
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Originally Posted By GODself
Yeah, thats why I rlly liked the gator grip onesv(0,96 and 1,14) cuz they are smaller than tortex and bigger than jazz iii (way too small for me... I hit the strings with my fingers everytime).

But like you said, when we talk about tone, nothing can beat the ultex.

Grip and Accuracy: Gator Grip, tortex and ultex, jazz iii (for the reason i just said)

Tone: ultex, tortex, jazz l iii, gator grip
Ultex Jazz IIIXLcould be worth trying.

Spoiler!

Originally Posted By rollerball
I really like ultex except for the fact that it seems to melt with every stroke. If you like ultex you'd probably really like those Red Bear picks but those are also very expensive.

Things I like in a pick are stiffness, durability, tone, and good beveling.
Like you I wouldn't hesitate to spend more if I could see a difference but I haven't gone down that rabbit hole yet. Do you ever sharpen picks with sandpaper?

Took a photo to see what a couple of years' playing has done to mine which is more than I realized however a brand new one doesn't sound as good without the beveling which is why I keep playing the same one*. For what it's worth I play 12-54 gauge in Eb.



It's interesting how Holdsworth used those ancient 1mm nylon Dunlop picks. Considering he didn't want any pick noise I always thought he would have used something thicker and beveled.



*Edit: decided to play a new one and actually don't mind it. Want to break the cycle of using the same pick.
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I've tried a $30 pick, it's all just bullsh*t. These pics were made from fancy material with crazy beveling and grip, but they felt ****ing horrible because you can't tailor a pick to one picking style. You don't need to pay more than 50c-$1. I love medium size, a bit of stiffness but it needs to have some flex or else you can't do subtle playing as much. I need to feel like I am gripping something, you can move your fingers down further to get that small pick feel or more back to have more flap for chords.

There are picks I have used for years, I like to wear them in. Tommy Emmanuel played with the same pick for a decade.

You definitely need to find a pick that suits you but also remember that as you get better or your technique changes so will your pick. I used to use these black small ultra thick Dunlop picks and when I pick it up now I just laugh at how absurd it feels.
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Originally Posted By EoR
There are picks I have used for years
What are you using now?
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Originally Posted By Dominik
Ultex Jazz IIIXLcould be worth trying.

Spoiler!

Like you I wouldn't hesitate to spend more if I could see a difference but I haven't gone down that rabbit hole yet. Do you ever sharpen picks with sandpaper?

Took a photo to see what a couple of years' playing has done to mine which is more than I realized however a brand new one doesn't sound as good without the beveling which is why I keep playing the same one*. For what it's worth I play 12-54 gauge in Eb.



It's interesting how Holdsworth used those ancient 1mm nylon Dunlop picks. Considering he didn't want any pick noise I always thought he would have used something thicker and beveled.



*Edit: decided to play a new one and actually don't mind it. Want to break the cycle of using the same pick.
Gotta try those ultex jazz II pick, think I'm gonna love it.

edit: I mean jazz III
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Originally Posted By rollerball
I think it makes sense that Holdsworth used those nylon picks as they seem the least intrusive in terms of introducing pick attack sound which I assume he tried to avoid.
I've never used the 1.0mm version but early on used those dark grey .88mm nylon picks and they had a clicky, scratchy sound more suited to strumming an acoustic but nylon around 1mm with some beveling obviously changes things. I always figured a red Jazz III like EJ uses would be a better choice for reducing pick noise.

Brett Garsed also uses those 1mm nylon picks."Jim Dunlop 1mm nylon picks. Nice dark tone without too much pick noise. Big factor is the reduced pick noise which is probably a reason for Allan preferring them although I have no idea if that's the case. They don't break either."

That's why it's so important to experiment because it's easy to dismiss certain accessories without trying them first. For me Ultex covers all bases. I like a brighter tone playing on the neck pickup and playing clean chordal stuff with delay and a warmer tone on the bridge pickup with some distortion. That's why I ditched the red Jazz IIIs a few years back because they were too warm.

Some of the picks I've tried. Andy Timmons uses the black Tortex Jazz IIIs. I preferred the purple one but still went back to old faithful.

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Originally Posted By rollerball
Yeah the dealbreaker for me with ultex is the longevity, mypick angle can get pretty extremein relation to the strings and this tends to wear picks down quite a bit. I've been gravitating towards thicker picks again because I feel that they take less work to push through the string.
Makes perfect sense. I typically pick close to parallel which doesn't really lend itself to speed (at least not for me) but reduces pick noise and has a fuller sound at least to my ear so I'm not burning through picks.

Not shred related but an extreme example of pick wear is Malcolm Young's nephew who replaced him in AC/DC. Tech says he burns through 30+ per show.

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I think those *******s on reddit shadowbanned my post or something so I'm putting this here

I'm looking for a guitar pick like this:


with a body made of thin bendable plastic while the tip consists of thicker, solid material.

has anyone ever seen something like this or knows DIY solutions? I found nothing so far.
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Originally Posted By faketaxidriver
I think those *******s on reddit shadowbanned my post or something so I'm putting this here

I'm looking for a guitar pick like this:


with a body made of thin bendable plastic while the tip consists of thicker, solid material.

has anyone ever seen something like this or knows DIY solutions? I found nothing so far.
Never seen anything like that but I'm sure you could achieve the result you're after with a thicker pick and sanding back the area you want to be thin and more flexible.

I used to cut and sand Dunlop tortex and gator picks into a Jazz III shape before they made them. Most picks are cheap so modify them until you're happy.
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Do you guys know Christone "Kingfish" Ingram? I've seen a few of his parts online but this cover of 'Hey Joe' blows me away. I think this guy's just great. Even his vocals are next level.

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I was actually experimenting with a few different picks since I was recording guitars recently and wanted to limit the pick noise I was hearing in my playing. I've pretty much always played Dunlop Tortex .88mm but decided to try a few others for comparison like Jazz III, John Petrucci Jazz III, Dunlop Nylon, Fender Thin, and Dunlop Gator Grip.

I ultimately found that I got the best results just using the usual Tortex .88mm but playing with the pick flat against the string instead of edge picking.
I've always wondered why my guitar in recordings often times has pick noises and so much string scratching and I'm finally starting to understand just how important the angle in which I'm picking matters. When I'm recording I definitely try to pick with the pick as flat against the string as I can for more clarity.

This video kind of explains it a bit. Although I personally think it over emphasizes the pick material and thickness, since I was still getting pick chirps with softer/thinner picks I tested. The biggest difference for me was the pick angle.

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Yeah 65 is still too young. One of the greatest, it takes a special person to influence a whole generation. Innovator like him, YJ etc all set the framework that makes learning guitar now so easy.

If you can get nearly any guitarist in any country listening to someone play something and go: "That sounds like X" then you know you've made it in the history books.

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Originally Posted By EoR
Yeah 65 is still too young. One of the greatest, it takes a special person to influence a whole generation. Innovator like him, YJ etc all set the framework that makes learning guitar now so easy.

If you can get nearly any guitarist in any country listening to someone play something and go: "That sounds like X" then you know you've made it in the history books.
Kids today know him for a few party trick pieces like Eruption and Cathedral but the guy had incredible feel and would slip in and out of riffing to solo without ever sounding rushed plus he wrote all that music. Everyone in the 80s took turns copying him so in my book he was up there with Hendrix in terms of his influence on several generations of players not to mention the whole superstrat thing. His biggest influence was Eric Clapton in Cream however Clapton for some reason never gave him the time of day.

I'm a big fan of the early stuff but he pumped out some great riffs in Van Hagar and he finally had someone with the pipes to sing anything he wanted. Alex VH's drumming on Pleasure Dome never gets old.

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[QUOTE=Dominik post_id=1618658321]Kids today know him for a few party trick pieces like Eruption and Cathedral but the guy had incredible feel and would slip in and out of riffing to solo without ever sounding rushed not to mention he wrote all that music. Everyone in the 80s took turns copying him so in my book he was up there with Hendrix in terms of his influence on several generations of players not to mention the whole superstrat thing. His biggest influence was Eric Clapton in Cream however Clapton for some reason never gave him the time of day.

I'm a big fan of the early stuff but he pumped out some great riffs in Van Hagar not to mention he finally had someone with the pipes to sing anything he wanted. Alex VH's drumming on Pleasure Dome never gets old.

[youtub]mN8Ncoenewg[/youtube] [youtub]DlCRgROe2uc[/youtube] youtube]mNnZsHbxvYM[/youtube][/QUOTE]Also tone that millions of guitarists drool over and seek to imitate.

I’m so sad but also so angry at how willfully ignorant and dismissive he was about smoking and booze... damn it man.


RIP to a true legend. The world is blessed to have had him here.
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Recently picked up an acoustic..about 6 months ago...part of my new stay at home Covid skills.

Got most of the "campfire" chords down, and can bang out a handful of simple three chord songs. Rhythm and timing is coming along.

I am looking for some direction on scales though, how to play them over the neck.

I understand how the major and minor scales are derived, but I am looking for some direction on exercises to get the scales down and memorize the fretboard. I dont want to buy any expensive books or pay for online lesson installments etc.

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RIP EddieCheck this out:https://forum.obnoxiousbrutes.com/showt...post1618658111

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It's flawless, no dings or scratches and has it's own hardcase. 1st Mahogany Guitar and 1st one with an actual good case. Sounds very mellow and balanced, heavy and comfortable. I put my old one up for sale but since I'm not getting a lot of interest, I may try sanding down the bottom of the saddle and lighter strings and tuck it away for a campfire guitar, has high action that never bothered me but annoys anyone that I pass it to.
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Originally Posted By rollerball
I went through a long Dunlop Gator Grip 2.0 phase then followed V-picks, Blue Chip picks, Wegen picks, Red Bear picks, Gravity picks, Chicken picks, and now I'm back to Gravity picks.
For awhile I was using a .75mm V-pick but right now I'm really into a 2.0mm Gravity pick that's shaped very similarly to the Jazz III.

I even used the enormous 8.85mm Colossal pick from V-picks for a bit. That was an interesting pick and not like what you might expect a pick that thick to feel like.

I really like ultex except for the fact that it seems to melt with every stroke. If you like ultex you'd probably really like those Red Bear picks but those are also very expensive.

Things I like in a pick are stiffness, durability, tone, and good beveling.
I guess I’m an odd ball, but I use different picks for different things. Of course I can use the same pick for it all, but certain picks have advantages over others.

For metal rhythm, I use V picks. I forget the name buts it’s somewhere around 3mm thick. Very nice picks.

For fast alternate picking and sweeps, I use the green tortex jazz picks. If I had to only use one pick, it would be these. I can absolutely fly with these. I like the Ernie Ball Prodigy too for this, but I bought a lifetime supply of the tortex jazz a few years ago.

I like the size of the Jazz III, but I don’t like the material.

I love the Dunlop Flows too. I have the Patrucci and Andy James versions. I have some of the standard sizes too. All are good.

I also have a boat load of the Dunlop.60 textured picks that Eddie used (RIP). I use those when my picking gets sloppy. After about an hour, I’m back to normal.
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