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08-07-2019, 07:50 PM
#4801
Originally Posted By iamgenus⏩
Rapsheet confirmed minor ankle sprain
I'd love to see Kyle or Nick himself confirm it…don't really trust what Saleh has to say.
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08-08-2019, 07:38 AM
#4802
Bosa out for preseason, if its a bad sprain he may miss some early games I feel, really ****ty and not what I wanted, was excited to see the kid play asap with all the reports of his practice hype. Verrett's sprain seems a bit more minor, hoping he can get back soon. We really need guys to stay healthy this year.
I'm curious as to why in training camp they have so many practices in a row, especially having an offseason right before. I know there are rules in place regarding practices and practice types but it seems odd to me why they practice so frequently right away, I would think it would be smarter to start slow and ramp things up as they get into the end of preseason. I know you can't prevent a guy rolling up on someone's ankle but limiting consecutive practices as a coach is something I would definitely do. I would think about having guys go every other day, split them 50/50 so the team is still practicing everyday but half is getting treatment and doing lifting/conditioning, individual drills, recovery and treatment while the other is doing team drills (1 on 1, 7-7, 11-11). Makes no sense to have these guys risking injury especially when you know a bunch are already going to make the team. If anything have the fringe guys do a little extra work while the other guys prepare for the season, you have plenty of time to practice for 4-6 weeks before the season and now we got important players missing preseason games anyway because they got hurt, why not just let them practice lighter and play less or hold them out for the early preseason games anyway?
I'm curious as to why in training camp they have so many practices in a row, especially having an offseason right before. I know there are rules in place regarding practices and practice types but it seems odd to me why they practice so frequently right away, I would think it would be smarter to start slow and ramp things up as they get into the end of preseason. I know you can't prevent a guy rolling up on someone's ankle but limiting consecutive practices as a coach is something I would definitely do. I would think about having guys go every other day, split them 50/50 so the team is still practicing everyday but half is getting treatment and doing lifting/conditioning, individual drills, recovery and treatment while the other is doing team drills (1 on 1, 7-7, 11-11). Makes no sense to have these guys risking injury especially when you know a bunch are already going to make the team. If anything have the fringe guys do a little extra work while the other guys prepare for the season, you have plenty of time to practice for 4-6 weeks before the season and now we got important players missing preseason games anyway because they got hurt, why not just let them practice lighter and play less or hold them out for the early preseason games anyway?
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08-08-2019, 09:51 AM
#4803
Sucks…
But just hope he's good for week 1. If he's good by then it may be a blessing in disguise. As much as I'd like to see him improve in camp while also helping the OLmen going against him and as much fun as watching rookies compete against other teams for a change in preseason…we need him for the games that matter.
For all the injury prone talk Bosa gets this is just bad luck. Few guys come away unscathed when they're engaged with an offensive lineman and a huge 300+ lb dude falls on their foot. Could've been much worse. I mean the Seahawks first rounder wasn't considered injury prone and had probably a worse injury.
Just have to avoid serious injuries from now on and have everyone healthy week 1.
But just hope he's good for week 1. If he's good by then it may be a blessing in disguise. As much as I'd like to see him improve in camp while also helping the OLmen going against him and as much fun as watching rookies compete against other teams for a change in preseason…we need him for the games that matter.
For all the injury prone talk Bosa gets this is just bad luck. Few guys come away unscathed when they're engaged with an offensive lineman and a huge 300+ lb dude falls on their foot. Could've been much worse. I mean the Seahawks first rounder wasn't considered injury prone and had probably a worse injury.
Just have to avoid serious injuries from now on and have everyone healthy week 1.
08-08-2019, 01:18 PM
#4804
Fortunately, Bosa is already extremely advanced. Like genus said, might be a blessing in disguise. He probably doesn’t need preseason, and it sounds like Shanny hates preseason. He’s already a lot further along than Aldon Smith was according to Staley and we all know how awesome Aldon was as a rookie.
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08-08-2019, 01:56 PM
#4805
Just really hope we're getting all of our injuries out of the way in camp here so guys are actually available and ready to play week 1.
Tampa Bay and Cinci are games we need to win IMO but they're not layups as both are road home openers for each of those teams. Two back to back east coast games on top of it for us.
Having a consistent pass rush vs Tampa Bay is absolutely key or they may hang 40 on us. Not as scared by Cinci without AJ Green but still…need to win the games that we SHOULD win.
My other hope is that Shanahan and Lynch are using this as an excuse to shut down Nick and Verrett and by telling the reporters that the ankle injuries are more serious than initial reports they do just that.
If the reports were "ankle injury is minor" then the question would be "When will Bosa be back to practice? When will he play in preseason?"
Could totally be trying to talk something into existence but hopefully week 1 both guys are there and do not have future recurrences.
Tampa Bay and Cinci are games we need to win IMO but they're not layups as both are road home openers for each of those teams. Two back to back east coast games on top of it for us.
Having a consistent pass rush vs Tampa Bay is absolutely key or they may hang 40 on us. Not as scared by Cinci without AJ Green but still…need to win the games that we SHOULD win.
My other hope is that Shanahan and Lynch are using this as an excuse to shut down Nick and Verrett and by telling the reporters that the ankle injuries are more serious than initial reports they do just that.
If the reports were "ankle injury is minor" then the question would be "When will Bosa be back to practice? When will he play in preseason?"
Could totally be trying to talk something into existence but hopefully week 1 both guys are there and do not have future recurrences.
08-08-2019, 02:33 PM
#4806
Week 1 and 2 are pretty ideal for back to back east coast games. And the Bucs game is an afternoon games and Bengals are unlikely to have Green. Being 2-0 for the home opener versus Pittsburgh will have that crowd buzzing.
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08-08-2019, 02:46 PM
#4807
Not surprised about Shanahan's comments about not liking preseason being 4 games, as I said earlier the amount of practice and the 4 games is just too much.
Sucks to hear about Kwaun Williams and Jet injuries too now, hopefully all our guys are good to go week 1 and I wouldn't be mad at all if Shanny decided to shelve some guys or play them less during preseason compared to some other people who are fighting for roster spots.
Sucks to hear about Kwaun Williams and Jet injuries too now, hopefully all our guys are good to go week 1 and I wouldn't be mad at all if Shanny decided to shelve some guys or play them less during preseason compared to some other people who are fighting for roster spots.
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08-09-2019, 05:39 AM
#4808
Like I said…it just felt like McKinnon may never suit up for us in a real game
I was rooting for him but sounds like that injury didn't heal very well. Unfortunate that we took him off the PUP since now the only option is to IR with designation to return but I really don't think we should use that designation for him. I'll be hoping and praying that we don't need to worry about using that designation for another player as we avoid serious injuries but still sucks to use that when if he just stayed on the PUP he still doesn't count towards the roster and can come back after 6 games.
I was rooting for him but sounds like that injury didn't heal very well. Unfortunate that we took him off the PUP since now the only option is to IR with designation to return but I really don't think we should use that designation for him. I'll be hoping and praying that we don't need to worry about using that designation for another player as we avoid serious injuries but still sucks to use that when if he just stayed on the PUP he still doesn't count towards the roster and can come back after 6 games.
08-09-2019, 09:13 AM
#4809
Was listening to the SiriusXM last night and they were at the 49ers camp. They interviewed Breida and after listening to it I must say, i'm really pulling for this kid. Dude was adopted and both his adoptive parents are paralyzed. They were talking to him about his injury last year and how bad it was but he still continued to play through it and was still successful. I knew he was injured and but I didn't know the severity of it I guess. Anyway kid is really humble and seems to be a great human.
I did hear one of the hosts ask Jimmy G one of the dumbest questions a reporter can ask.
"So Jimmy, I see that you, Kittle and Taylor really have some good chemistry so far in camp. Is that something you guys want to carry into the season?" LOL no Jim, we want to be rusty when we go into the season.
I did hear one of the hosts ask Jimmy G one of the dumbest questions a reporter can ask.
"So Jimmy, I see that you, Kittle and Taylor really have some good chemistry so far in camp. Is that something you guys want to carry into the season?" LOL no Jim, we want to be rusty when we go into the season.
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08-10-2019, 02:50 PM
#4810
Game day!! So pumped. Yes it is preseason but it is football.
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08-11-2019, 08:28 AM
#4811
Expectations came back to reality a lot last night. Lots of penalties, and injuries, boy does that sound alarmingly familiar.
That said, the rookie class looked sick with Hurd, Deebo, Greenlaw and Wishnowsky making plays. I thought there was some flashes of solid play from some other people, and also some flashes of not so good as well. All in all its hard to gain much from just one preseason game but Shanny and Lynch going to have some tough decisions to make, lets hope they make the right ones sorting out our 53.
That said, the rookie class looked sick with Hurd, Deebo, Greenlaw and Wishnowsky making plays. I thought there was some flashes of solid play from some other people, and also some flashes of not so good as well. All in all its hard to gain much from just one preseason game but Shanny and Lynch going to have some tough decisions to make, lets hope they make the right ones sorting out our 53.
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08-11-2019, 08:32 AM
#4812
Originally Posted By mngardne⏩
My biggest take away…we need our starters healthy cuz our depth, especially on OL blows.
Expectations came back to reality a lot last night. Lots of penalties, and injuries, boy does that sound alarmingly familiar.
That said, the rookie class looked sick with Hurd, Deebo, Greenlaw and Wishnowsky making plays. I thought there was some flashes of solid play from some other people, and also some flashes of not so good as well. All in all its hard to gain much from just one preseason game but Shanny and Lynch going to have some tough decisions to make, lets hope they make the right ones sorting out our 53.
That said, the rookie class looked sick with Hurd, Deebo, Greenlaw and Wishnowsky making plays. I thought there was some flashes of solid play from some other people, and also some flashes of not so good as well. All in all its hard to gain much from just one preseason game but Shanny and Lynch going to have some tough decisions to make, lets hope they make the right ones sorting out our 53.
08-11-2019, 10:18 AM
#4813
Originally Posted By iamgenus⏩
that right there is now my biggest concern. Garnett is likely gone. Richburg is still on the mend. Coleman likely out for a while.
My biggest take away…we need our starters healthy cuz our
depth, especially on OL blows.
It would be really scary if anything happens Staley, Laken, Person, or McGlinchey…knock on wood.
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08-11-2019, 10:45 AM
#4814
Originally Posted By iamgenus⏩
That's the main thing I saw. Dallas was getting through at will each and every play.
My biggest take away…we need our starters healthy cuz our depth, especially on OL blows.
Granted it's the first pre-season game so I expect a lot of penalties but definitely some glaring holes in depth.
I think our receiving core has the chance to be pretty nasty though. Although it's pre season, it's nice to see that we still came back for the win even with all the penalties and injuries
08-11-2019, 10:48 AM
#4815
Seems the Trent Taylor injury came outta nowhere? They just casually mentioned it on the broadcast wtf?
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08-11-2019, 01:06 PM
#4816
Originally Posted By Blasting⏩
Well this take sucked.
I know they’re not going to try to put him on the PS lol I’m just saying they probably wish they could put him on it.
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08-11-2019, 01:07 PM
#4817
Originally Posted By blinkers88⏩
Yeah, he had surgery on Friday. How did we not find out until the broadcast last night?
Seems the Trent Taylor injury came outta nowhere? They just casually mentioned it on the broadcast wtf?
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08-11-2019, 01:09 PM
#4818
Originally Posted By mngardne⏩
Man I know TC and preseason can bring out the hyperbole like crazy but this draft class could legit be one of our best ever. You didn’t even mention Tim Harris who looked solid too.
Expectations came back to reality a lot last night. Lots of penalties, and injuries, boy does that sound alarmingly familiar.
That said, the rookie class looked sick with Hurd, Deebo, Greenlaw and Wishnowsky making plays. I thought there was some flashes of solid play from some other people, and also some flashes of not so good as well. All in all its hard to gain much from just one preseason game but Shanny and Lynch going to have some tough decisions to make, lets hope they make the right ones sorting out our 53.
That said, the rookie class looked sick with Hurd, Deebo, Greenlaw and Wishnowsky making plays. I thought there was some flashes of solid play from some other people, and also some flashes of not so good as well. All in all its hard to gain much from just one preseason game but Shanny and Lynch going to have some tough decisions to make, lets hope they make the right ones sorting out our 53.
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08-11-2019, 01:17 PM
#4819
Originally Posted By Blasting⏩
Sounded like he didn’t even know there was an issue. I guess he was dealing with some foot pain and finAlly the team had it checked out.
Yeah, he had surgery on Friday. How did we not find out until the broadcast last night?
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08-12-2019, 05:57 AM
#4820
Originally Posted By blinkers88⏩
I was watching the game on mute and need to rewatch it(how fuking painful is rewatching pre-season?) but was super bummed out when I saw that news after the game. I hope he'll be 100% but we've seen a ton of guys get screws put in their feet and that lead to issues. Taylor's game is all about quickness and his feet are obviously a huge part of his movement(talk about an obvious statement) so having a foot injury to him is scary. It's almost a double screw job because the injury isn't enough to put him out for enough games to do the IR with designation to return so now we have to give him a roster spot on the 53 knowing he's going to miss games but not knowing how many and how he'll look after the surgery. It's a big risk and it sucks.
Seems the Trent Taylor injury came outta nowhere? They just casually mentioned it on the broadcast wtf?
The WR battle has been so close and it's going to be tough to see who makes the cut and I hope Taylor comes back healthy and looks like he was in training camp so far because clearly the QBs trust him and I'd hate to see him play closer to last season than his rookie year if he's back to not being healthy as we cut a receiver who can turn out to be pretty good.
The penalties have to get cleaned up but at the same time we didn't really play any starters out there save maybe Pettis and honestly some of those penalties looked borderline at best. And IIRC the chunk of them were holding calls by the OL. I feel like people tend to overreact to games where there are a ton of penalties. Now if you have late hit penalties, retaliation penalties and other post whistle penalties then it points to a discipline issue. Holding, PI type penalties are not penalties a coach can really help with discipline.
08-12-2019, 06:00 AM
#4821
Originally Posted By Blasting⏩
They all have ways to go in proving themselves, as you said preseason can definitely cause some overreactions one way or another as people quickly forget these games aren't game planned for and you rarely get your best on their best for a great barometer.
Man I know TC and preseason can bring out the hyperbole like crazy but this draft class could legit be one of our best ever. You didn’t even mention Tim Harris who looked solid too.
Still you always want to see your guys play well and hope they keep it up vs watching them play like crap and hope it's rust or learning curve and they get better once the game planning and the real games start. However this draft class is promising and we really need it to be special. Bosa needs to stay healthy and lead this draft class into greatness.
08-12-2019, 07:37 AM
#4822
For Bourne to be having such a good TC and to have Shanahan praise him as having the best hands on the team, it was absolutely brutal watching him drop that wide open crosser.
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08-12-2019, 07:39 AM
#4823
Originally Posted By iamgenus⏩
I watched it recorded where I could fast forward through everything. Skipped all the in between play stuff and the running plays for our offense. Wasn’t bad at all. Seeing Jimmy G next Monday will be nice, though.
I was watching the game on mute and need to rewatch it(
how fuking painful is rewatching pre-season?)
but was super bummed out when I saw that news after the game. I hope he'll be 100% but we've seen a ton of guys get screws put in their feet and that lead to issues. Taylor's game is all about quickness and his feet are obviously a huge part of his movement(talk about an obvious statement) so having a foot injury to him is scary. It's almost a double screw job because the injury isn't enough to put him out for enough games to do the IR with designation to return so now we have to give him a roster spot on the 53 knowing he's going to miss games but not knowing how many and how he'll look after the surgery. It's a big risk and it sucks.
The WR battle has been so close and it's going to be tough to see who makes the cut and I hope Taylor comes back healthy and looks like he was in training camp so far because clearly the QBs trust him and I'd hate to see him play closer to last season than his rookie year if he's back to not being healthy as we cut a receiver who can turn out to be pretty good.
The penalties have to get cleaned up but at the same time we didn't really play any starters out there save maybe Pettis and honestly some of those penalties looked borderline at best. And IIRC the chunk of them were holding calls by the OL. I feel like people tend to overreact to games where there are a ton of penalties. Now if you have late hit penalties, retaliation penalties and other post whistle penalties then it points to a discipline issue. Holding, PI type penalties are not penalties a coach can really help with discipline.
The WR battle has been so close and it's going to be tough to see who makes the cut and I hope Taylor comes back healthy and looks like he was in training camp so far because clearly the QBs trust him and I'd hate to see him play closer to last season than his rookie year if he's back to not being healthy as we cut a receiver who can turn out to be pretty good.
The penalties have to get cleaned up but at the same time we didn't really play any starters out there save maybe Pettis and honestly some of those penalties looked borderline at best. And IIRC the chunk of them were holding calls by the OL. I feel like people tend to overreact to games where there are a ton of penalties. Now if you have late hit penalties, retaliation penalties and other post whistle penalties then it points to a discipline issue. Holding, PI type penalties are not penalties a coach can really help with discipline.
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08-12-2019, 08:41 AM
#4824
Originally Posted By Blasting⏩
It was ugly for all our WRs save Deebo and Hurd imo. Pettis needs to be more aggressive even though it's not his game.
For Bourne to be having such a good TC and to have Shanahan praise him as having the best hands on the team, it was absolutely brutal watching him drop that wide open crosser.
James fumbling that ball(it looked like a fumble) was ****. He makes a good catch and then can't bring it down? Can't have that happen. Both he and Bourne didn't help their case. I know Shanahan claimed he doesn't use preseason to really make his calls and uses practice…but WRs dropping passes in a game even if preseason certainly can't do them any favors.
Ironically Jordan Matthews who definitely has been falling behind in camp/practice had a nice grab in a key spot.
Have to catch the ball better. Drops, injuries, penalties. These are the things we need to leave behind in preseason and the past.
08-12-2019, 09:45 AM
#4825
Originally Posted By iamgenus⏩
I’m excited about the future of our receiving corps but I know they’re young so I’m full expecting so ups and down this year, especially given how difficult Shanny’s playbook can be.
It was ugly for all our WRs save Deebo and Hurd imo. Pettis needs to be more aggressive even though it's not his game.
James fumbling that ball(it looked like a fumble) was ****. He makes a good catch and then can't bring it down? Can't have that happen. Both he and Bourne didn't help their case. I know Shanahan claimed he doesn't use preseason to really make his calls and uses practice…but WRs dropping passes in a game even if preseason certainly can't do them any favors.
Ironically Jordan Matthews who definitely has been falling behind in camp/practice had a nice grab in a key spot.
Have to catch the ball better. Drops, injuries, penalties. These are the things we need to leave behind in preseason and the past.
James fumbling that ball(it looked like a fumble) was ****. He makes a good catch and then can't bring it down? Can't have that happen. Both he and Bourne didn't help their case. I know Shanahan claimed he doesn't use preseason to really make his calls and uses practice…but WRs dropping passes in a game even if preseason certainly can't do them any favors.
Ironically Jordan Matthews who definitely has been falling behind in camp/practice had a nice grab in a key spot.
Have to catch the ball better. Drops, injuries, penalties. These are the things we need to leave behind in preseason and the past.
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08-12-2019, 10:11 AM
#4826
Originally Posted By Blasting⏩
Yeah…hopefully more good than bad from those guys and we should be alright.
I’m excited about the future of our receiving corps but I know they’re young so I’m full expecting so ups and down this year, especially given how difficult Shanny’s playbook can be.
Really hope Richburg and Bosa are good for week 1. Need a huge rebound year from Richburg.
08-12-2019, 12:48 PM
#4827
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08-15-2019, 12:36 PM
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It's happening!!
Hopefully they perform better than the last game I went to (Steelers 2015)
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08-15-2019, 12:57 PM
#4829
^ Nice man, have a fun time! As long as they're healthy they should be able to win that game IMO.
I'm going to take the wife and my father in law to the 49ers/Pats next year as we're playing in Foxboro next season. That's going to be tough as long as Thomas Brady is starting but last time we played there we got the job done so nothing is impossible.
Looking forward to our practice vs the Broncos next two days. Finally a chance to see our guys against another team in practice where your offense or defense has to look bad for the other to look good.
Of course the downside is now both your offense and defense could look bad in practice at the same time lol.
Hopefully even against Denver's scary pass rush our offense can move the ball and hopefully our defense continues to look good even though some of our key guys are out.
I'm going to take the wife and my father in law to the 49ers/Pats next year as we're playing in Foxboro next season. That's going to be tough as long as Thomas Brady is starting but last time we played there we got the job done so nothing is impossible.
Looking forward to our practice vs the Broncos next two days. Finally a chance to see our guys against another team in practice where your offense or defense has to look bad for the other to look good.
Of course the downside is now both your offense and defense could look bad in practice at the same time lol.
Hopefully even against Denver's scary pass rush our offense can move the ball and hopefully our defense continues to look good even though some of our key guys are out.
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