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post 1489812681 04-04-2017, 02:07 PM
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In for 30 shares of TEVA @ 32. Hopefully trump doesn't fuk me.
You can walk outside and listen to all kinds of talk, get told you're a god or a total bastard. The iron always kicks you the real deal. It's the great reference point, the all-knowing perspective giver. I have found it to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But 200 pounds is always 200 pounds.
post 1489825041 04-04-2017, 03:54 PM
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Currently getting bent over by gbj/jpy but my enta position isn't doing bad so yeah..


How you boyos doing?
"I bet your parents taught you that you mean something, that you're here for a reason. My parents taught me a different lesson, dying in the gutter for no reason at all... They taught me the world only makes sense if you force it to."
post 1489825741 04-04-2017, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted By thetrebel
Currently getting bent over by gbj/jpy but my enta position isn't doing bad so yeah..


How you boyos doing?
sold my pnra 310 calls at .70cents a piece

and then it gets a $35 bump a/h, they probably open up at 5.00+ tomorrow. i want to throw up.

other than that, pretty good.

Energy/Gas/Miners all still juicy as fk

fcx 15 coming.
post 1489830761 04-04-2017, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted By WhAtNoWbChSs
Still liking twitter?

Not sure what to buy. Thinking Twitter GILD or teva....
I own twitter, intending on averaging down as it comes lower - doesn't workout I'll bin it in a few years.
post 1489831721 04-04-2017, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted By White-Belt
I own twitter, intending on averaging down as it comes lower - doesn't workout I'll bin it in a few years.
Twitter is going no where in the next few years but down IMO. I know a lot analysts say to hold, but I can't see it myself. Revenue is stalling, user growth is stagnant, management is in a mess and there doesn't appear to be a plan to turn it around. They've ****ed around with stuff like the character limit but there has been no significant changes to push it forward in years, I haven't got a ****ing clue what their dev team spends its time doing.
post 1489832781 04-04-2017, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted By infinit
Twitter is going no where in the next few years but down IMO. I know a lot analysts say to hold, but I can't see it myself. Revenue is stalling, user growth is stagnant, management is in a mess and there doesn't appear to be a plan to turn it around. They've ****ed around with stuff like the character limit but there has been no significant changes to push it forward in years, I haven't got a ****ing clue what their dev team spends its time doing.
Twitter's biggest problems:

1. excess costs
2. ****ty advertising

...but twitter has a lot going for it too

1. if it can hack the uncessary expenses it was make a decent wallop of money
2. better advertising on the platform could improve revenue
3. potential for a buyout

Too much is made of user growth.
Relevant articles which got me thinking :
http://brontecapital.blogspot.co.uk/...t-rumours.html
http://brontecapital.blogspot.co.uk/...witter-is.html

If you told me 12 months ago I'd own twitter I'd say you have lost your mind. There is money to be made on twitter, it is depend on one or more things happening though.
post 1489836031 04-04-2017, 05:30 PM
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Twitter is unique in that you can interact with famous people, it's usually the fastest source on any time of big news, users are there.

They're just fukin up the ads, I've never seen anything pop up on my stream that I was remotely interested in.

There's a HUGE falling wedge playing out right now. Technicals and FA reasons are there.

I like Twitter long term at these prices, I just don't have the patience for it to pan out.

Twitter is ****ty for options players, it always pops and fades on any type of big volume.

The times that it doesn't, it runs up huge, but it's tough to stay in those ones because they fade on you the other 9/10 times.

I promised myself not to trade TWTR ever since it leaked earnings and went down 20% before close, but for some reason I can't stay away.



trend is shifting and bullish. just doesn't look like it right now, but by the time it looks bullish you'll already be late.
post 1489848051 04-04-2017, 07:21 PM
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Copper setting up



looks like another trump infrastructure pump is coming
post 1489849271 04-04-2017, 07:32 PM
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What is your infrastructure play? Alcoa and FCX?
Fitness connoisseur
0.4 mg of party's over wake the FK up!
"the personification of greatness"
post 1489850281 04-04-2017, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted By RobParks2M
What is your infrastructure play? Alcoa and FCX?
XME looks good as a whole sector here.

Most of the stocks in there are look like they're about to break out, I wouldn't be surprised if they ran it on one of the job reports coming out this week.

AA, FCX, AKS, RGLD my favorites out of xme holdings. FCX, XME is where my money is for this play.




post 1489882531 04-05-2017, 03:42 AM
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Thoughts on the 3 fund portfolio theory? As a passive investor, I think I will just but 3 vanguard funds and just add shares monthly and call it a day. There's a lot of etfs to select though not to mention their all in one funds with those minimum purchase starting at $3000?
post 1489888901 04-05-2017, 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted By White-Belt
Twitter's biggest problems:

1. excess costs
2. ****ty advertising

...but twitter has a lot going for it too

1. if it can hack the uncessary expenses it was make a decent wallop of money
2. better advertising on the platform could improve revenue
3. potential for a buyout

Too much is made of user growth.
Relevant articles which got me thinking :
http://brontecapital.blogspot.co.uk/...t-rumours.html
http://brontecapital.blogspot.co.uk/...witter-is.html

If you told me 12 months ago I'd own twitter I'd say you have lost your mind. There is money to be made on twitter, it is depend on one or more things happening though.
I honestly don't think they can just get better advertising, ******** and Google are the 2 domintant players and that isn't going to change, they have entire ecosystems that Twitter doesn't have and in all likelihood is now impossible for them to get.

I will be interested to see if their "better" results from Q4 2016 are actually maintained going later into this year or how much of it was a one-off from activity relating to the US elections.
post 1489889701 04-05-2017, 06:18 AM
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anyone still using the MT4 platform? Any good providers?
Is there a better free one out there now?
post 1489899861 04-05-2017, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted By SUPERDUKE1290
anyone still using the MT4 platform? Any good providers?
Is there a better free one out there now?
mt4 is the honda of trading platforms


reliable as fuk
"I bet your parents taught you that you mean something, that you're here for a reason. My parents taught me a different lesson, dying in the gutter for no reason at all... They taught me the world only makes sense if you force it to."
post 1489901801 04-05-2017, 08:24 AM
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usd bout to comeback from behind like peter north
"I bet your parents taught you that you mean something, that you're here for a reason. My parents taught me a different lesson, dying in the gutter for no reason at all... They taught me the world only makes sense if you force it to."
post 1489902101 04-05-2017, 08:28 AM
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closed out all my longs this AM except for some KMX calls that I bought a few days ago for earnings



what a morning.
Originally Posted By Slamt
nvm

best idea ive come across



$FCX

gap fill on 61.8, drop built into a falling wedge, break out nested another 61.8.

BULLISH



markets finally moving again, thank god.
post 1489919631 04-05-2017, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted By infinit
I honestly don't think they can just get better advertising, ******** and Google are the 2 domintant players and that isn't going to change, they have entire ecosystems that Twitter doesn't have and in all likelihood is now impossible for them to get.

I will be interested to see if their "better" results from Q4 2016 are actually maintained going later into this year or how much of it was a one-off from activity relating to the US elections.
I think if they get bought out by google they get a whole let better at advertising lol.

Right now the biggest problem at twitter is the CEO. Until he ****s off I suspect the company will remain in the gutter.

If this was ran competently it would have enormous profits. The fact that it isn't run competently is a problem, you control for that risk by limiting your exposure.
post 1489920341 04-05-2017, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted By White-Belt
I think if they get bought out by google they get a whole let better at advertising lol.

Right now the biggest problem at twitter is the CEO. Until he ****s off I suspect the company will remain in the gutter.

If this was ran competently it would have enormous profits. The fact that it isn't run competently is a problem, you control for that risk by limiting your exposure.
No chance Google is going to touch them, I'm in TMT M&A and from what I know, no tech company wants to go near Twitter.
post 1489939531 04-05-2017, 01:40 PM
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Well that was a strange day.

Green to red.
You can walk outside and listen to all kinds of talk, get told you're a god or a total bastard. The iron always kicks you the real deal. It's the great reference point, the all-knowing perspective giver. I have found it to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But 200 pounds is always 200 pounds.
post 1489940001 04-05-2017, 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted By WhAtNoWbChSs
Well that was a strange day.

Green to red.
Yea wtf. Can anyone explain what causes such a shift?

Will the market actually go up in the future? I know no one knows. But people are so confident in the lazy 3 portfolio as if it will in fact go up.
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Originally Posted By ProboscisMonkie
Yea wtf. Can anyone explain what causes such a shift?

Will the market actually go up in the future? I know no one knows. But people are so confident in the lazy 3 portfolio as if it will in fact go up.
I don't know but Im mad as fuk I didn't get up earlier. I would have sold KO @ 42.84.
You can walk outside and listen to all kinds of talk, get told you're a god or a total bastard. The iron always kicks you the real deal. It's the great reference point, the all-knowing perspective giver. I have found it to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But 200 pounds is always 200 pounds.
post 1489943611 04-05-2017, 02:09 PM
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How low will F go. dodged that bullet at least.

Wishing I didn't buy target.
You can walk outside and listen to all kinds of talk, get told you're a god or a total bastard. The iron always kicks you the real deal. It's the great reference point, the all-knowing perspective giver. I have found it to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But 200 pounds is always 200 pounds.
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Originally Posted By WhAtNoWbChSs
How low will F go. dodged that bullet at least.

Wishing I didn't buy target.
Do you buy index funds?
post 1489948051 04-05-2017, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted By ProboscisMonkie
Do you buy index funds?
No. Im attempting to play the stock market.
You can walk outside and listen to all kinds of talk, get told you're a god or a total bastard. The iron always kicks you the real deal. It's the great reference point, the all-knowing perspective giver. I have found it to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But 200 pounds is always 200 pounds.
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Originally Posted By ProboscisMonkie
Yea wtf. Can anyone explain what causes such a shift?
Started with positive news about employment and then the Fed's policy meeting minutes were released.
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oh lol. Just checked my SPY puts and they have life in them again. Give me two more days of this and I'll be locking in the profits.
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btd

always btd
post 1489951581 04-05-2017, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted By infinit
No chance Google is going to touch them, I'm in TMT M&A and from what I know, no tech company wants to go near Twitter.
But you also understand that no company worth their salt would want it to be known they had an acquisition plan? So to be straight with you, what you said actually means nothing. If everyone knew company x was looking to acquire company y pricing would reflect that.

In any event it doesn't have to be google, it doesn't have to be anyone. The point about twitter is it isn't just a buyout play, fundamentally there is a very profitable company there but costs needs brought down. There are many ways which twitter can come good.
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$plug just partnered with amazon
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How many stocks do you guys suggest to hold for a diversified portfolio? Something like 10? 2 stocks from 5 different sectors sound like a good idea?
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